Diamondbacks Take Advantage of Cub Miscues at Talking Stick

Taking advantage of four errors to score four unearned runs, the Diamondbacks defeated the Cubs 8-5 in Cactus League Extended Spring Training action this morning at Whirlwind Field at Salt River Fields at Talking Stick, east of Scottsdale, AZ.


21-year old 6’5 RHP Jose Arias got the start for the Cubs and worked three innings, and although he did allow two runs on four hits and a walk, he also struck out seven. Arias was considered the Cubs #1 pitching prospect in the Dominican Summer League (DSL) last season, and will likely be a rotation starter at AZL Cubs this year. He was throwing gas today.


In EXST Cubs roster news, Cuban LHP Gerardo Concepcion and fellow Cuban catcher Yaniel Cabezas have been moved-up to Peoria.


The 20-year old Concepcion was signed by the Cubs last month, receiving a five-year $6M major league contract. In three EXST games prior to getting promoted, Concepcion threw 11.1 IP, allowing seven runs (six earned) on 14 hits and four walks, while striking out 11. He also threw three wild pitches and committed a balk.


In his last outing last Thursday at Indian School Park in Scottsdale versus the Giants, Concepcion threw five innings (88 pitches), allowing two runs (one earned) on six hits and a walk, with four strikeouts. So he is stretched-out and ready to be a starting pitcher for the Chiefs.


Concepcion signed with the Cubs after defecting last year at the World Port Tournament in the Netherlands while a member of Team Cuba. Prior to defecting he pitched for Industriales in Serie Nacional (the Cuban major league), and was named the league’s Rookie of Year for the 2010-11 season.


Cabezas signed with the Cubs in December 2010 for a reported $500K bonus. He played for Los Vaqueros de la Habana in Serie Nacional prior to defecting, and split the 2011 season between AZL Cubs (Mesa) and Boise, hitting a combined 202/284/260 between the two stops. Cabezas turned 23 last Thursday


Here is the abridged box score from today’s game (Cubs players only):


CUBS LINEUP:
1. Shawon Dunston Jr, CF: 2-4 (2B, F-7, L-4, 1B)
2. Gioskar Amaya, 2B-DH: 0-4 (K, F-8, F-9, K)
3. Anthony Giansanti, DH-C: 0-3 (4-3, K, BB, L-7, R)
4. Rock Shoulders, 1B: 1-3 (4-3, 1B, BB, K, R)
5. Neftali Rosario, C-DH: 1-4 (K, K, 1B, F-8, R, 2 RBI)
6. Brian Inoa, DH-2B: 0-4 (F-8, K, E-6, 4-3, R)
7. Danny Lockhart, 3B: 0-3 (K, K, BB, F-7)
8. Carlos Penalver, SS: 1-3 (5-3, BB, 1B, 6-3, RBI, SB)
9. Garrett Schlecht, LF-DH: 2-3 (1B, K, 1B)
10. Kevin Encarnacion, RF: 1-3 (F-8, 1B, 6-4-3 DP, R)
11a. SLOT WAS SKIPPED FIRST TWO TIMES THRU BATTING ORDER
11b. Jair Bogaerts, LF: 0-1 (E-5)


CUBS PITCHERS:
1. Jose Arias: 3.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 7 K, 61 pitches (44 strikes), 1/1 GO/FO
2. Ethan Elias: 1.0 IP, 3 H, 3 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 1 K, 25 pitches (17 strikes), 0/2 GO/FO
3. Hunter Ackerman: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 2 R (0 ER), 1 BB, 4 K, 40 pitches (24 strikes), 1/1 GO/FO
4. Sheldon McDonald: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R (0 ER), 1 BB, 1 K, 34 pitches (22 strikes), 2/3 GO/FO
5. Rafael Diplan: 1.0 IP, 1 H 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 16 pitches (8 strikes), 0/1 GO/FO


CUBS ERRORS: 4
1. P Ethan Elias - E-1 (errant pick-off attempt at 1st base allowed baserunner to advance to 3rd base – eventually scored unearned run)
2. C Neftali Rasario - E-2 (overthrow on stolen base attempt at 2nd base allowed baserunner to advance to 3rd base – eventually scored unearned run)
3. C Anthony Giansanti - E-2 (errant throw on stolen base attempt at 3rd base allowed baserunner to score unearned run)
4. 2B Brian Inoa - E-4 (fielding error allowed batter to reach base safely and baserunner to advance to 3rd base – eventually scored unearned run)


CUBS CATCHERS DEFENSE:
Neftali Rosario: 0-2 CS, 1 E (see above)
Anthony Giansanti: 0-1 CS, 1 E (see above)


ATTENDANCE: 12


WEATHER: Sunny and a bit breezy with temperatures in the 90’s

Comments

not gonna start a new post since we have 2 new ones today...

Furcal SS, Schumaker 2B, Holliday LF, Beltran RF, Freese 3B, Molina C, Carpenter 1B, Robinson CF, Wainwright P

vs.

DeJesus RF, Campana CF, Castro SS, LaHair 1B, Soriano LF, Stewart 3B, Barney 2B, Soto C, Samardzija P

here comes the winning streak....

dejesus just got a gift.

1-0 cubs.

Molina missed the tag but DeJesus missed the plate. Ump called him safe though.

He was sure to touch the plate on his way back to the dugout. I'm sure Soriano would have done the same, lol.

On the replay, it was clear that DeJesus got to his knees ready to lunge back in and get a hand on the plate, having missed it. He stops right as the ump calls him safe.

Joe's having a good time in the chattings.

be there.

Can't get on parachat right now, but did enjoy Len's comment RE: Campana stealing and getting to third on the error:

"Molina should have just thrown to third."

april 24th...soriano gets his 1st extra base hit (double)

More cubbery with the DeJesus pick-off. Poor Samninja, can't catch a break with this crew.

Looked great again today. Hopefully we see more of the good Samardzija with control this year than we see of the bad.

Got the good Samardzija tonight. Well done.

Marmol coming in for the 4 out save. I feel confident.

that was an odd decision.

make that a shitty decision, 2r homer.

Came home just as Marmol did what he does best. I hate baseball.

and he follows it up with a 2 base error after walking beltran...neat.

...he gets out of it with a popout to RF.

I hate baseball because I love it so much.

good luck trading marmol.

Send Soso with him maybe we can get a one arm third baseman.

bowden about to make his debut.

Lulz. Carlos Marmol: Cubbery at its finest. Thanks Jim Hendry!

The sad thing is, as awesome as he was (and quite incredible, as we all remember) he is equally terrible now.

I wonder what the fuck happened that he just fell off the table?

Slider isn't being thrown for a strike and the League knows it. Waiting on a 92-93 MPH fastball that's not extraordinary. Fun times...................

Personally, I think his fastball used to have more and sharper movement to it, too. So you had a fastball that looked like it was going to be off the plate away, but would break over the middle of it, and a slider that looked like it was going to be down the middle in would take a left turn. Now you have fastball that's much straighter.

Carlos Marmol starring in "The Return of Latroy Hawkins!"

LaHair is GOD!

LAHERO!

TIE GAME!

Free LaHair!

off a lefty, too...good stuff.

Imprison Baker!

If I see Baker at first again, I;m going to drive down to clark and addison and kick Sveum in the nuts.

Too bad LaHair can't hit lefties.

The legend of LaHair grows

cut it out

MIKE C says, "I will never admit that LaHair is actually, maybe, probably, more than a AAAA player and not a piece of shit player from our talent-less farm system."

Mather time!

Mather, you are not LaHair.

FREE BOBBY SCALES! DOWN WITH MATHER!

Is it just me or did Mather just show a complete lack of sanity? Who the fuck almost falls over swinging for the fences three times with the winning run standing on 3rd? Really? Are you kidding me Mather? Read the fucking CUBS WAY. I am sure it says something like put the fucking ball in play and put pressure on the defense and pitcher when the (expletive) ;) win is on 3rd base. Hero = goat.

I think he really liked playing the hero from the other night...except he did that with a walk off single. What a dolt.

I'm just glad Soriano read the situational hitting chapter. Mather got an F on the "how to win a ball game 101" quiz for dumbasses tonight. Which is not easy to do.

"harry could handle pronouncing 'salas' backwards...he'd be okay." - len

another gift for the cubs...campy safe on a SB, 1 out...

Who do those umps think they are? There's no way their gifts could possibly outweigh the Cubs' ability to blow a game.

SCRUBBIES WIN!

I'm not sure if the Cubs won...but the Umps and Cards seemed to have lost.

Just cause the Cubs caught a break, don't forget Ninja and LaHair frickin kicked ass. And the little man's speed made those tough calls at home plate and 2b possible. Sometimes you make your own breaks. Which is kinda cool!

Please make Marmol go away tho...

Just looking at the bad calls and errors. Ninja certain deserved a win...

Loving the Ninja, these days. I will be infinitely psyched if he turns out to be a legit #3 or so with the potential to dominate on occasion.

Now Volstad and Travis Wood need to get on the becoming useful pitchers wagon.

My love for LaHair might be greater than my love for Borowski circa 2003; I dig the longball (and the solid overall plate approach) more than I dig the save.

Hey AZ Phil I enjoy your reporting. I would love to check out some extended spring games. Can you give me a schedule of the games. Thanks

So last night I'm watching the game on my iPhone but since I thought it was the NINTH inning when Holliday smoked Marmol, I turn off the game, in disgust, after Castro strikes out to end the ninth eighth.

Then I turn on the phone and I guess I turned off the phone but didn't kill the app, and Soriano is bouncing one through the infield with Campana coming home and I look at the box score and see my man crush tied it in the ninth. As the kids would say, FML.

Senior moment?

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects...

Hayden Simpson just about done.

I have generally admired the overall body of Wilken work. But he has really "missed some bats" as well during his Cubs tenure.

I thought at the time that it was a shrewd move by Hendry, as he wanted to try to upgrade things.

He has turned out closer to Jerry Angelo in that he blew it with most of his 1st rounders.

Not that he was alone by any stretch, but in the Simpson and Colvin rounds there were more impact players taken after the respective picks.

Vitters over Wieters not looking so hot either - can't recall if that was Wilken though.

Vitters over a lot of guys. That might have been the deepest 1st round in forever.

Edit: In all fairness, I do believe Vitters still has a shot to be a serviceable MLBer.

Whereas I think we can agree Hayden is probably a classic "bust", I also think Vitters is certainly not yet.

Agree in that he will have a productive career. Not a star, imo, but a contributing MLBer.

Call me crazy but I think Vitters has the chance to be better than that. He's been rushed a bit by the prior regime and is only 22 playing in AAA for the first time. And from his numbers this year it at least looks like he's trying to be more selective at the plate. I don't think he'll be a regular all star, but maybe once at his peak.

it was Wilken, think that was as much money as talent

maybe Baez will pan out :)

better run of major leaguers than his predecessor, but lacking impact talent

I know it's been listed before, but since 2006:
Colvin, Samardzija, Clevenger, Donaldson, Guyer, Barney, Russell, Cashner, Flaherty, Cub Carpenter, J. Harrison, Campana, Coleman, Erick Hamran (pitched for Padres briefly last year), LeMahieu

Castro was signed in 2006, but doesn't seem like Wilken had much to do with that one.

Add Clevenger so far this year.

I see him in that list, do you not?

I have gone on about this before, but the talent evaluator/scouting director/gm goal really is two-fold:

- Graduate draftees to the Majors
- Develop said draftees for use in trade.

Once we strip everything away, this is their main job description.

It is combination of luck, health, and finally, evaluation skills, that produces impact players like Pujols, for example.

I do, but I guess I did not.

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  • kuhl is a righty, not a lefty.

    i think maddon might think kuhl is a lefty, too. i wonder what the reasoning is for baez leading off vs a rightie.

    crunch 7 min 1 sec ago view
  • "trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo."

    that's from my 1st post. there's no suck involved in that. maybe with a few less posts about bullshit that point would have jumped out more.

    crunch 54 min 21 sec ago view
  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 1 hour 59 min ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 2 hours 44 min ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 31 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 4 hours 31 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 38 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 5 hours 15 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 15 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 18 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 5 hours 21 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 22 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 5 hours 26 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 5 hours 38 min ago view
  • I read it as him saying it's not really that much of a concern and that the one time it really cost Lester, vs. K.C., was an anomaly.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 44 min ago view
  • if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.

    aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.

    exploitable, needs his own personal catcher to control his shortcomings, relies on his ability to get outs along with his personal catcher keeping runners in check before things become further exploited...

    crunch 5 hours 46 min ago view