Game 35 Thread - Dempster vs. Westbrook

The Cubs NL Central barnstorming continues with a trip to Missouri. NL ERA-leader Ryan Dempster tries to secure his first win against a Beltran-less lineup.

Cardinals Cubs
#Furcal, SS
*DeJesus, RF
*Jay, CF
*Campana, CF
Holliday, LF
Castro, SS
Craig, RF
*LaHair, 1B
#Berkman, RF
Soriano, LF
Freese, 3B
*Stewart, 3B
Molina, C
Soto, C
*Schumaker, 2B
Barney, 2B
Westbrook, P
Dempster, P

 

Which will happen first?
  
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Sadly, the poll from Friday still applies.

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Parrot chat

Liar

600 game?

Be on in 1/2 hour

Offensive explosion!!!

Soriano and Campana have a few more innings to try and win the poll.

Hopefully.

Or Dempster and the 1st base ump can give the runs back.

You know what would be a great idea? Sacrifice bunting with one of only two players on your team that can hit. Awesome.

and having that hitter jog to 1st rather than running after bunting would be icing on the cake.

that whole thing was a giant ball of suck.

seemed like a great idea to me...

signed,
Don Baylor

You know it's a bad move when all the ESPN announcers agree that it's a bad idea. Further, LaHair is getting an intentional walk immediately after the Castro bunt, which is your second best hitter. ESPN then showed a graphic that against Boggs, Soriano in his career was 0-9 w/7 K's. Way to use that statistical background Sveum.

Soriano in his career was 0-9 w/7 K's. Way to use that statistical background Sveum
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so, what did Soriano do in that at bat?

got lucky

From the Simpsons:
to Krusty: You mean you bet against the Globetrotters?
Krusty: I thought they were due!

Be that as it may, the Cubs went from runners on 1st and 2nd, none out (1.573 run expectancy) and their best two hitters up to runners on 1st and 2nd, two out (0.466 run expectancy), and Soriano/Stewart coming up. If you prefer bunting with Castro we'll just agree to disagree.

Even if Castro's bunt was successful, you'd still have Soriano with the bases loaded and perfect double play situation. Oh well.

Replying to myself here, but the same run expectancy chart shows that bases loaded, one out is a 1.65 run expectancy. So maybe, just maybe, Sveum knew all this and really is a saber-inclined manager that we should all be proud of? I still would have let Castro and LaHair swing away in that situation. Hopefully we don't see that choice out of Sveum again.

if anyone is flying by blind/blanket numbers that treats castro with men on the same as a random assortment of league average with men on then they're doing it wrong.

I must have forgotten the begin/end sarcasm tags. I don't know the code, anyway

Paralegal chat recap

Rob likes the cubs
So does Crunch

/transmission'd

That's the worst pharaoh chat recap ever.

He who can't hit, bunts
Also, he who can

Also, also, tied for 4th. /DraftBotch

I do not like when bad managing gets reinforced by scoring in spite of it.

I'll be lone defender of the indefensible. My guess is that Sveum was using desperate tactics to "try to make something happen". I can't figure out what other reason there could be for that kind of move.

I think it was a good move if only because it exposed Castro a bit. That jog off the bunt was inexcusable, and needs to be fixed before stardom makes him cocky.

Tulo nailed by a line drive in the leg while waiting on the top step of the dugout (he was due up 3rd).

looks like he's going to stay in though.

then gingerly beats out a infield single and limping pretty bad.

comes out of the game after that.

in ex-Cubs news

Justin Sellers with an amazing play catching a foul ball in the stands.

Full sprint back from third base, caught it over the shoulder basket style and then flipped over into the stands.

Cubs Tied for 4th!!!!!

also tied for last.

As of last night, wasn't the 2013 draft order: Twins, Padres, CUBS?

I'm starting to like this kid. I can't remember a time the Cubs have had a guy who flusters good defensive teams into making mistakes. The Cards are usually pretty good, but when Campana was on the bases they were throwing the ball around like kids in a school yard.

What I liked most was what the ESPN guys pointed out, how he stole second after missing a sign and seeing DeJesus get thrown out. When this kid says he can steal 100 bases, I am beginning to believe it. He doesn't even seem to need to be that good a hitter. Chops the ball to the shortstop and still gets on.

As his reputation grows, pitchers will try to be more careful not to walk him. If he can learn how to really, really control the plate, he could be a very interesting player.

The managing this season leaves a lot to be desired. And Im hoping that the strategy is simply that Sveum is enough of a players manager/developer of young players to get them through this season and next until a real manager is available. If Theo really believes that Dale is the guy for the next decade or more, then Im going to become an Orioles fan real soon.

But it could be worse. Could be Don Mattingly.

In response to the article: Whatever.

Stupid.

I agree. That article was like a list of stupid reasons people give for wanting to move away from Wrigley. Worse, it skips over other supporting points that actually do make some sense.

for a guy that likes to make fun of Campana, give him props last night for some excellent baserunning.

On the Soriano single, he recognized immediately that it was going to drop and took off.

and of course the SB on the pitch-out.

even laid down a good bunt but Freese made a great play on it.

Game of thrones is a good little base runner

I haven't watched the show (I know, I know).

Are there a bunch of fast midgets on it?

just one, peter dinklage.

he's on cover of rolling stone.

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  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 12 min 58 sec ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 43 min 25 sec ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 46 min 59 sec ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 49 min 59 sec ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 10 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 1 hour 12 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 1 hour 15 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 18 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 1 hour 20 min ago view
  • Billy McKinney had season-ending knee surgery last August and came to Minor League Camp this year somewhat restricted. (He was used mostly as a DH in Cactus League Minor League Camp games), and I'm not sure he's 100% right now (he's repeating AA, and his XBH numbers are way down, like he's not getting good rotation in his lowev half). That might have been part of the reason why the trade wasn't completed right away.

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 27 min ago view
  • Rashad Crawford was a basketball star in HS (he was known as "Baby Jordan", and baseball was only his second sport) and he has plus-speed and athleticism, so when the Cubs drafted him (Keith Lockhart was the scout)  he was seen as a long-term project.  

    I was at Fitch Park the day that Rashad Crawford became a LH hitter, He waa never a switch-hitter, He went directly from being a RH hitter to a LH hitter, which I had never seen before. 

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 35 min ago view
  • I'm with Rob G and Johann here. It's not about Chapman as a pitcher. I just don't want to have to block out a real problem (the domestic violence) in order to try to enjoy the frivolous ball and stick game.

    Charlie 1 hour 43 min ago view
  • ROB G & BOB R: You're right. The QO can only be extended if the player spends the entire previous season with one club, so only the Yankees could have offered one to Chapman (if he wasn't traded). If an Article XX-B FA is traded during the season, the new club can't offer a QO. .

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 44 min ago view
  • i was going off what AZPhil said above...they keep talking about tweaking the rules, i didn't know if that had been changed or not. my winter/spring was way too hectic aside from a couple weeks vacation in janurary and i missed a lot of stuff.

    if not, this is one hell of an expensive trade for what looks to be 30-40 innings of play...including the playoffs. damn.

    crunch 1 hour 55 min ago view
  • Did the QO rules change?

    unless there's a TARDIS involved, I dont believe that's a possibility

    Rob G. 1 hour 59 min ago view
  • I didn't think you could offer a QO to a player who was traded during the season? For example, Lester was not offered a QO when the Cubs signed him.

    Rob Richardson 2 hours 57 sec ago view