Game 35 Thread - Dempster vs. Westbrook

The Cubs NL Central barnstorming continues with a trip to Missouri. NL ERA-leader Ryan Dempster tries to secure his first win against a Beltran-less lineup.

Cardinals Cubs
#Furcal, SS
*DeJesus, RF
*Jay, CF
*Campana, CF
Holliday, LF
Castro, SS
Craig, RF
*LaHair, 1B
#Berkman, RF
Soriano, LF
Freese, 3B
*Stewart, 3B
Molina, C
Soto, C
*Schumaker, 2B
Barney, 2B
Westbrook, P
Dempster, P

 

Which will happen first?
  
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Sadly, the poll from Friday still applies.

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Liar

600 game?

Be on in 1/2 hour

Offensive explosion!!!

Soriano and Campana have a few more innings to try and win the poll.

Hopefully.

Or Dempster and the 1st base ump can give the runs back.

You know what would be a great idea? Sacrifice bunting with one of only two players on your team that can hit. Awesome.

and having that hitter jog to 1st rather than running after bunting would be icing on the cake.

that whole thing was a giant ball of suck.

seemed like a great idea to me...

signed,
Don Baylor

You know it's a bad move when all the ESPN announcers agree that it's a bad idea. Further, LaHair is getting an intentional walk immediately after the Castro bunt, which is your second best hitter. ESPN then showed a graphic that against Boggs, Soriano in his career was 0-9 w/7 K's. Way to use that statistical background Sveum.

Soriano in his career was 0-9 w/7 K's. Way to use that statistical background Sveum
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so, what did Soriano do in that at bat?

got lucky

From the Simpsons:
to Krusty: You mean you bet against the Globetrotters?
Krusty: I thought they were due!

Be that as it may, the Cubs went from runners on 1st and 2nd, none out (1.573 run expectancy) and their best two hitters up to runners on 1st and 2nd, two out (0.466 run expectancy), and Soriano/Stewart coming up. If you prefer bunting with Castro we'll just agree to disagree.

Even if Castro's bunt was successful, you'd still have Soriano with the bases loaded and perfect double play situation. Oh well.

Replying to myself here, but the same run expectancy chart shows that bases loaded, one out is a 1.65 run expectancy. So maybe, just maybe, Sveum knew all this and really is a saber-inclined manager that we should all be proud of? I still would have let Castro and LaHair swing away in that situation. Hopefully we don't see that choice out of Sveum again.

if anyone is flying by blind/blanket numbers that treats castro with men on the same as a random assortment of league average with men on then they're doing it wrong.

I must have forgotten the begin/end sarcasm tags. I don't know the code, anyway

Paralegal chat recap

Rob likes the cubs
So does Crunch

/transmission'd

That's the worst pharaoh chat recap ever.

He who can't hit, bunts
Also, he who can

Also, also, tied for 4th. /DraftBotch

I do not like when bad managing gets reinforced by scoring in spite of it.

I'll be lone defender of the indefensible. My guess is that Sveum was using desperate tactics to "try to make something happen". I can't figure out what other reason there could be for that kind of move.

I think it was a good move if only because it exposed Castro a bit. That jog off the bunt was inexcusable, and needs to be fixed before stardom makes him cocky.

Tulo nailed by a line drive in the leg while waiting on the top step of the dugout (he was due up 3rd).

looks like he's going to stay in though.

then gingerly beats out a infield single and limping pretty bad.

comes out of the game after that.

in ex-Cubs news

Justin Sellers with an amazing play catching a foul ball in the stands.

Full sprint back from third base, caught it over the shoulder basket style and then flipped over into the stands.

Cubs Tied for 4th!!!!!

also tied for last.

As of last night, wasn't the 2013 draft order: Twins, Padres, CUBS?

I'm starting to like this kid. I can't remember a time the Cubs have had a guy who flusters good defensive teams into making mistakes. The Cards are usually pretty good, but when Campana was on the bases they were throwing the ball around like kids in a school yard.

What I liked most was what the ESPN guys pointed out, how he stole second after missing a sign and seeing DeJesus get thrown out. When this kid says he can steal 100 bases, I am beginning to believe it. He doesn't even seem to need to be that good a hitter. Chops the ball to the shortstop and still gets on.

As his reputation grows, pitchers will try to be more careful not to walk him. If he can learn how to really, really control the plate, he could be a very interesting player.

The managing this season leaves a lot to be desired. And Im hoping that the strategy is simply that Sveum is enough of a players manager/developer of young players to get them through this season and next until a real manager is available. If Theo really believes that Dale is the guy for the next decade or more, then Im going to become an Orioles fan real soon.

But it could be worse. Could be Don Mattingly.

In response to the article: Whatever.

Stupid.

I agree. That article was like a list of stupid reasons people give for wanting to move away from Wrigley. Worse, it skips over other supporting points that actually do make some sense.

for a guy that likes to make fun of Campana, give him props last night for some excellent baserunning.

On the Soriano single, he recognized immediately that it was going to drop and took off.

and of course the SB on the pitch-out.

even laid down a good bunt but Freese made a great play on it.

Game of thrones is a good little base runner

I haven't watched the show (I know, I know).

Are there a bunch of fast midgets on it?

just one, peter dinklage.

he's on cover of rolling stone.

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  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 19 min 16 sec ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 6 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 2 hours 7 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 13 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 2 hours 50 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 2 hours 50 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 2 hours 53 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 2 hours 56 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 2 hours 57 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 3 hours 1 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 3 hours 13 min ago view
  • I read it as him saying it's not really that much of a concern and that the one time it really cost Lester, vs. K.C., was an anomaly.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 19 min ago view
  • if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.

    aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.

    exploitable, needs his own personal catcher to control his shortcomings, relies on his ability to get outs along with his personal catcher keeping runners in check before things become further exploited...

    crunch 3 hours 21 min ago view
  • That would be Rice Krispy Treat

    The E-Man 4 hours 39 min ago view
  • "Crunch's cousin"

    Butterfinger or Baby Ruth?

    VirginiaPhil 4 hours 53 min ago view
  • I saw the first three innings and the last three, so I didn't see Arrieta get hit. His stuff looked nasty at first...what happened? Any insight from anyone who watched?

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 5 min ago view