Game 48 Thread - T. Wood vs. Suppan

The face of Joe Mather batting third will forever haunt my nightmares of the 2012 Cubs.

Padres Cubs
*Venable, CF
*DeJesus, RF
Denorfia, RF
Castro, SS
*Alonso, 1B
Mather, CF
Quentin, LF
*LaHair, 1B
#Headley, 3B
Soriano, LF
Hundley, C
*Stewart, 3B
#Cabrera, 2B
Barney, 2B
#Parrino, SS
*Lalli, C
Suppan, P
Wood, P

What's more amazing, that the Cubs have lost 12 straight or that even though they've lost 12 straight, they're only tied for the worst record in baseball with the Twins? On that note, the Padres are tied in the loss column with the Cubs, but they can legitamely blame a serious injury bug for their woes, one of which is back today in the name of Carlos Quentin. So it's a bit of an early season match-up for the dubious top spot in the draft, although there's way too much baseball left this season to put much meaning on it.

Fun facts: Cubs team record for losses in a row is 14, the modern day record is 23 by the 1961 Phillies, although a few pre-19th century teams beat that (I believe 26 is the actual record).

Theo and Jed spoke on the losing streak and other such matters.

“We’re also very open to making moves,” Hoyer said. “A lot of our conversations are what we can do to shake things up. What we can do to change the roster a little bit. We’ll keep looking at those things. We don’t have the most flexible roster in the world because of some players’ options and situations."

And the draft...

“We don’t have a ton of arms in the minor leagues,” Hoyer said. “I think the best organizations are the ones that are littered with power arms. Some guys will become starters, some guys relievers, but the best bullpens are built internally, and the more we can add arms through the draft, the better, and I think that will be the focus, not just in 2012 but in every year. “

Finally, Carlos Marmol has been activated from the disabled list and Rafael Dolis has been optioned, from closer to Triple A in the span of 2 days.

Comments

Down 1-0 in the first

Even with a 25 mph wind out to center it seems insurmountable.

Nothing is insurmountable vs soup-can, 2-1 on a deJesus triple, Castro single, stolen base, sac by Mather, RBI go by LaHair

sac by Mather

lulz.

First At Bat:

Line drive single to right, thrown out at 2nd trying to stretch it.

I don't know what it is more interesting. Watching Soriano tie the game in Chicago with an RBI double, or checking in on the minor league box scores. Hope is a four letter word you know!

terrible bounce on that Stewart error fwiw.

6 homers through top 6...dat wind.

make that 7 into the bottom 6th.

soriano (6hr in last 13 games) gives the cubs a 1 run lead (7-8)...that would be a homer without the wind. epic.

make that 8 into the bottom 7th.

7-10, castro 2r homer (2hr the past 2 days, 4 total)

Chris Sale with 10 K's through 4.1 IP, decent pitch count too

11 K through 5, but down 1-0.

7.1 ip, 15k, 115 pitches and the win for Sale

not bad for their closer

Ted Roosevelt Lilly goes on the Dodgers DL with left shoulder inflammation.

I suppose he will need his knee scoped. Some things don't change.

May 28th...2012...still not turning double plays.

sigh. the "silent" defensive knock on this middle IF.

I thought it was a good decision to not throw it to 1st. There was no way Jeter could make that play!

if they'd charge the ball more rather than waiting for it to skip to their gloves they'd get more ops.

they both do a bunch of little things that leads to DPs not being made. barney is technically sound, but it's slow going through motions. both of them wait on the ball a bit too much only to end up not making the attempt or being late (or throwing it away...castro...).

I don't doubt your point.

I like the small improvement in Castro's consistency over the last month or so. He still doesn't look natural at SS and probably never will. He's natural instincts look best fit for outfield.

castro's ranging is getting a hell of a lot better deep/wide, imo...not that it was too slack to begin with, but he's really making some wide/deep plays happen. that arm, though...hope he finds more accuracy.

That's what I'm saying. I suppose I understand that Castro has more value as a SS because his arm is strong, but it's not really all too accurate. In another time and place I wouldn't have minded seeing them flip sides. Now, I'm just ready to let it go.

CUBS WIN!

"The Chicago losing streak reaches 12, one shy of the all-time Cub record -- before Fergie Jenkins snaps the string by blanking the Cardinals five to nothing."

Just a little Jack Brickhouse audio flashback for you guys. Anybody remember this?

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  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 19 min 28 sec ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 20 min ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 44 min 19 sec ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 47 min 40 sec ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 2 hours 17 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 2 hours 24 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 2 hours 36 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 2 hours 38 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 3 hours 48 sec ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 3 hours 1 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 3 hours 10 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 30 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 4 hours 42 sec ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 4 hours 4 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 7 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 27 min ago view