Game 50 Thread - Dempster vs. Bass

The Cubs go for the sweep and Dempster hopes to be awarded his first win of the season.

Padres Cubs
*Venable, CF
*DeJesus, RF
#Cabrera, SS Castro, SS
*Alonso, 1B
Mather, CF
Quentin, LF
*LaHair, 1B
#Headley, 3B
Soriano, LF
Denorfia, RF
*Stewart, 3B
Hundley, C
Barney, 2B
*Amarista, 2B
*Clevenger, C
Bass, P
Dempster, P

Fun facts: If Dempster does not win today, it'll be his 18th straight start without a win, a feat not done by a Cub pitcher since 1991-1992.

wait for it...

Danny Jackson.

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I have to say, Shark has really impressed. I notice he's 16th in MLB in pVORP. I'm especially surprised by his consistency - after those two tough starts in mid-April he has had seven excellent starts in a row, six of them quality starts.

He has been quite good, against some decent offenses as well.

Innings/ER/offensive rank
Nats (8.2/1/13th)
Cards (5/5/1st)
Marlins (3.2/5/12th)
Cards (6.2/0/1st)
Reds (7.2/1/11th)
Braves (7/1/2nd)
Brewers (5/1/6th)
White Sox (7.1/3/4th in AL)
Houston (6/2/10th)
Padres (7/3/15th)

He's on sports radio alot around here.

Goofy kid, in the good way.

did someone leave t.campana under a hotel bed on the last road trip?

Joltin' Joe Mather has more power...of course he'll be 30 in July...not so much a building block as hopefully a good reserve player.

it's not like i think campy is the future...or mather is pure trash...it's just been a while for campy playing...kinda odd.

please stop using Q-Ball's nicknames for players....

it's atrocious.

how about i just call them "loser #uniformnumber"

SLAM-A-LAMA-DING-DONG *gong*

Sean is the new Campy, anyway.

Agreed. I think that it sucks that those are the choices right now for CF...but I like seeing Campana in there

did they have a shift on Amarista?

Stewart was practically at shortstop and Barney couldn't get over to cover (or just missed it).

Bud Black goofiness...

Barney steals on an 0-2 count (ended up being a wild pitch so he would have taken 2nd anyway).

1-2 count on Clevenger and decides to go after him instead of intentional walk.

Clevenger singles in the run.

of course Dempster then singles.

tie game.

Quentin seems healed.

2nd HR of the day, opposite field shot for Quentin.

6-3 Padres.

Off his own face...that was awesome.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/i...

“It's just one of those things where (Campana) didn't do anything to lose his job,” Sveum said. “He was kind of more of a victim of doing a good job but the offense not scoring runs so I thought put somebody in there that might juice the team with a home run or a three-run homer or two-run double, something like that. Unfortunately for Camp, like I told him, he's just a victim.”

Rob G. it should be Mather at 3B and Campana in CF. Sveum is right when he says try someone who can provide a little slugging, but he's replaced the wrong player. Campana wasn't the problem. LaHair was figured out, Stewart's bat slowed down, Castro forced everything, and we didn't have a catcher. Mather did deserve a shot at sometime. His at bats were impressive. So, put him at 3B for a while. He looks pretty comfortable over there. Better than Baker. That would have taken away a lefty bat in the lineup. We still would have had DeJesus, LaHair, and Campana instead of Stewart or Baker. Not like this would make the lineup .500 worthy, but it sounds better to me.

Stewart isn't the problem either, he has an .800 OPS in May which is what people should be expecting.

There's no great options or anything, but Campana had slowed down significantly since his hot start, worst OPS among the regulars. His OBP wasn't too great either if you want to discount his slugging entirely.

267/323/333 in May with 14 K in 60 AB's, 6 R, 5 BB

Stewart 238/333/463 in May with 13 K, 11 R, 8 BB in 67 AB's

Campana's nifty when he gets on-base and is getting lucky, but crying over him starting is silly. The team sucked with him and they suck without him in the lineup. His future is the bench, might as well get use to it.

Not that I'm advocating Mather either, cause his future is even dimmer. But neither is worth caring about who starts.

Hey Rob, do you still have an Amazon book link? I'm wanting to buy Kerry Wood's book...

Yeah, thanks...I was referring to Rob's comment below. Wanted to give money to two unfortunates...sad kids and TCR.

[edit] And, Ha, I just saw what you were linking too. I suppose it could have been worse:)

no, the Amazon affiliate thing wasn't really working for us. But thanks for thinking about us.

Can you keep that Noise Bot ad on the right forever? Thanks.

I'd be happy if the Zazzle ad with soccer ball boobs would go away. Clearly we need more bobos, but that's not the answer.

I like the hot hipster chick in tidy whiteys and a meh t-shirt ad.

It almost makes me click on it every time I see it
And they're "tighty" (sorry - spelling nazi at it again)

is that the same ad that Tito is referring to?

I've seen a Noise Bot one with a cute girl and a "I pooped today" T-shirt. High brow stuff.

I've seen the "Meh" T-shirt ad as well, not sure if that's Noise Bot, but I presume it is. Can't be that many T-shirt companies advertising.

I've been staring at Kate Beckinsale in her underwear for a month, so I'm not that impressed. :)

"Meh" is Snorg Tees or something like that.

Intentional Talk on MLBN does a piece called "Hawk's Unbiased Call of the Day"

It funny. Yup.

He makes watching a Sox game virtually un-watchable unless you mute the volume. I'm looking for a TV that leaves Stone's commentary on the volume but mutes Harrelson.

he's a weird guy.

i wish he'd be more like his "real" self...the guy that's casual and has a ton of funny stories (and the skills to tell them attentively).

when you put him behind a mic at a live game he turns into an angry drunk version of ron santo.

Happened today.

Vin Scully he is not.

Doubles Clevenger strikes again.

4-3 Padres.

it's time to work the hell out of the pen again...dumpster gone in the 5th.

SD showing why they're almost/as bad as the cubs.

We're #2! We're #2!

My friend in Columbus, GA said that the sports radio guys down there are all talking about Dempster to the Braves.

Food for thought.

presuming R. Delgado is the one that would lose his rotation spot, I'd happily have the Cubs take him off their hands in return.

Wonder if Minor would be realistic?

didn't notice he's been even worse than Delgado...either one would be great.

or give them Garza and Dempster and get Teheran, Minor and Delgado. :)

Jim [email protected]

Heard that #Cubs are working out Correa and Fried today. Not sure Correa makes it to them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqjyUieIik&fe...

His "peeps" take giving "A Shout Out", to new extremes on this kid's HR in PR.

Sweeping the Cubs!

from what little I know of these players, my current hope is Zimmer magically falls to them at #6 and they take Giolito with a supplemental pick and pay the tax since they saved some major league payroll money this year.

Obviously w/o paying him too much or the rest of their first 10 round picks that it would cost them a draft pick.

EPIC TIE!!!

Castro with some awesome hustle to tie the game.

I know it's trendy to trash on former Cubs prospects once they leave the system, but Cashner has the most hittable 100mph fastball since Billy Koch.

he doesn't have a real out pitch.

he doesn't throw his fastball for an out pitch. it's kinda hard to set up a 90mph "circle change" with nothing but a fastball even if it is 100mph when they both don't have much movement on them.

Nice DP by Barney and Castro in 9th.

- T. Campana ran for R. Johnson
- T. Campana stole second
- T. Campana stole third

dat speed. screw a 100mph fastball pitcher.

The key was Johnson getting on-base for him.

bringing on the righty to face a 100mph righty leaving campy on the bench was totally the best decision. =p

johnson is having a decent season this year vs righties at least.

Not letting Campana hit is always the best decision.

i don't mind using the guy as bench/pinch-running, but the guy has been riding pine like a mofo and missing PH spots the past couple weeks that seem ideal.

he does his damage when he's on base, whether it's him or someone else that gets him there.

My fantasy teams could use a win for Russell. Let's do it.

- C. Denorfia in right field
- W. Venable in right field
- W. Venable in right field
- C. Maybin in center field
- C. Denorfia in left field
- A. Amarista at third
- A. Parrino at second
- D. Thayer relieved A. Cashner

lulz, gameday.

D BARNEY WALKOFF 2r HR!

SCRUBBIES WIN!

Barney walk-off HR.

Lulz.

Did anybody notice that the same guy who caught Quentin's first home run and chucked it back on the field also caught Barney's walk-off dinger? He was in the first row of the left-center field bleachers, wearing a red long sleeved shirt (with a fielder's glove) and there was a girl in a red-and-white striped "Where's Waldo" shirt sitting immediately to his left. Caught both taters on the fly. What a great day at the ball park for him!

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  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 12 min 25 sec ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 12 min 53 sec ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 21 min 42 sec ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 41 min 52 sec ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 1 hour 12 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 15 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 18 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 39 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 1 hour 41 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 1 hour 44 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 47 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 1 hour 48 min ago view
  • Billy McKinney had season-ending knee surgery last August and came to Minor League Camp this year somewhat restricted. (He was used mostly as a DH in Cactus League Minor League Camp games), and I'm not sure he's 100% right now (he's repeating AA, and his XBH numbers are way down, like he's not getting good rotation in his lowev half). That might have been part of the reason why the trade wasn't completed right away.

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 56 min ago view
  • Rashad Crawford was a basketball star in HS (he was known as "Baby Jordan", and baseball was only his second sport) and he has plus-speed and athleticism, so when the Cubs drafted him (Keith Lockhart was the scout)  he was seen as a long-term project.  

    I was at Fitch Park the day that Rashad Crawford became a LH hitter, He waa never a switch-hitter, He went directly from being a RH hitter to a LH hitter, which I had never seen before. 

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 4 min ago view
  • I'm with Rob G and Johann here. It's not about Chapman as a pitcher. I just don't want to have to block out a real problem (the domestic violence) in order to try to enjoy the frivolous ball and stick game.

    Charlie 2 hours 12 min ago view
  • ROB G & BOB R: You're right. The QO can only be extended if the player spends the entire previous season with one club, so only the Yankees could have offered one to Chapman (if he wasn't traded). If an Article XX-B FA is traded during the season, the new club can't offer a QO. .

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 13 min ago view