Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
RHP James Pugliese threw four innings of two-hit shutout ball with five strikeouts and Marco Hernandez and Wilson Contreras collected consecutive two-out RBI singles to cap a three-run 5th, leading one squad of Cubs to a 4-1 victory over one squad of Diamondbacks on Field #3, and Yosbel Gutierrez laced an inside-the-park two-run home run to spark the other squad of D’backs to a 5-3 victory over the other squad of Cubs on Field #2, in a Cactus League Extended Spring training doubleheader played this morning at Fitch Park in Mesa, AZ.
Both games were seven-inning affairs.
Stephen Drew (2011 broken ankle rehab) accounted for the Diamondbacks lone run on Field #3, with a line-drive RBI single to CF in the top of the 7th.
In EXST Cubs roster news, catcher Sergio Burruel has been promoted to Peoria, and RHP Daniel Adrian, RHP Javier Castro, LHP Augusto Colina, RHP Jorge Diaz, RHP Loiger Padron, C Wilfredo Petit, and OF Kevin Encarnacion have been sent back to the Dominican Academy and will be asigned to one of the two Cubs affiliates in the Dominican Summer League (DSL Cubs #1 or DSL Cubs #2). DSL Opening Day is tomorrow.
Here are the abridged box scores from the two games:
FIELD #2
CUBS SQUAD “A” LINEUP:
1. Trey Martin, CF: 2-4 (1B, L-4, 3-1, 2B, R, RBI)
2. Carlos Penalver, SS: 2-3 (BB, 3B, K, 1B, RBI)
3. Jeimer Candelario, 3B: 1-4 (4-6-3 DP, 4-3, 1B, 4-6 FC, RBI)
4. Xavier Batista, RF: 1-3 (4-3, 5-3, BB, 1B)
5. Dan Vogelbach, 1B: 0-3 (BB, K, P-4, 3-U)
6. Neftali Rosario, C: 0-4 (5-3, E-5, 3-U, F-7)
7. Brian Inoa, 2B: 1-2 (K, 1B, BB, BB, R)
8. Trevor Gretzky, LF: 1-4 (4-3, F-8, 1B, F-8, R)
9a. SLOT WAS SKIPPED FIRST TWO TIMES THRU BATTING ORDER
9b. Justin Marra, DH: 0-1 (K)
CUBS SQUAD “A” PITCHERS:
1. Willengton Cruz: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 2 R (2 ER), 0 BB, 3 K, 2 WP, 1 HR, 32 pitches (22 strikes), 0/3 GO/FO
2. Rafael Diplan: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 1 HBP, 17 pitches (13 strikes), 2/1 GO/FO
3. Jin-Young Kim: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 2 R (0 ER), 0 BB, 0 K, 1 HBP, 27 pitches (18 strikes), 5/1 GO/FO
4. Ramon Garcia: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K, 13 pitches (7 strikes), 3/0 GO/FO
CUBS SQUAD “A” ERRORS: 3:
1. C Neftali Rosario - E-2 (Catcher’s Interference allowed batter to reach base safely)
2. 1B Dan Vogelbach- E-3 (throwing error on attempted 3-1 putout allowed batter to reach base safely – eventually scored unearned run)
3. 1B Dan Vogelbach - E-3 (fielding error allowed batter to reach base safely)
CUBS SQUAD “A” CATCHERS DEFENSE:
Neftali Rosario: 1-1 CS, 1 E - Catcher’s Interference (see above)
FIELD #3
CUBS SQUAD “B” LINEUP:
1. Shawon Dunston Jr, CF: 0-3 (3-1, K, 1-4 SH, 3-2 FC)
2. Danny Lockhart, 2B:2-4 (1B, 1B, K, E-4)
3. Marco Hernandez, SS: 1-4 (K, 3-1, 1B, P-4, R, RBI)
4. Wilson Contreras, C: 2-3 (1B, 4-3, 1B, RBI)
5. Rock Shoulders, 1B: 0-3 (K, K, F-8)
6. Dustin Geiger, 3B: 0-3 (K, F-8, 6-3)
7. Eduardo Gonzalez, RF: 1-2 (HBP, 4-3, 1B)
8. Dong-Yub Kim, LF: 1-2 (L-3 DP, 2B, HBP, 2 R)
9. Jair Bogaerts, DH: 1-1 (1B, HBP, BB, R)
CUBS SQUAD “B” PITCHERS:
1. James Pugliese: 4.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K, 1 WP, 1 PO, 46 pitches (31 strikes), 3/3 GO/FO
2. Ryan Hartman: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 24 pitches (17 strikes), 4/1 GO/FO
3. Pete Levitt: 1.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 0 K, 14 pitches (10 strikes), 2/1 GO/FO
CUBS SQUAD “B” ERRORS: 1
3B Dustin Geiger - E-5 (errant throw to 1st base on infield single allowed batter to advance to 2nd base)
CUBS SQUAD “B” CATCHERS DEFENSE:
Wilson Contreras: 1 PB
ATTENDANCE:6
WEATHER: Sunny with temperatures 100+
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Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 4:10pm Permalink
It wasn’t a Cactus League Extended Spring Training game so the stats don’t count, but the EXST Cubs did play a seven-inning intra-squad game Thursday morning (5/31).
RHP Jose Arias threw five innings of one-hit shutout ball with five strikeouts for one of the squads, and RHP Amaury Paulino saw his first game action of 2012 for the other squad, throwing three innings and allowing one run on three hits (including two triples), but with five strikeouts.
The only run of the game was driven-in by Brian Inoa, who roped a two-out RBI triple in the bottom of the 5th to score Trevor Gretzky, who had reached base on a triple with one out.
Here is the box score from the intra-squad game:
INTRA-SQUAD GAME - THURSDAY 5/31:
SQUAD “A” LINEUP:
1. Shawon Dunston Jr, CF: 0-2 (F-9, K, BB)
2. Carlos Penalver, SS: 1-3 (6-3, 3B, 6-3)
3. Wilson Contreras, C: 0-2 (P-4, K, BB)
4. Dustin Geiger, 3B: 0-3 (K, K, L-8)
5. Rock Shoulders, 1B: 0-3 (F-8, F-8, K)
6. Dong-Yub Kim, LF: 1-3 (L-8, 6-3, 2B)
7. Danny Lockhart, 2B: 0-3 (4-3, L-6, 4-3)
8. Eduardo Gonzalez, RF: 1-3 (4-3, 1B, F-8)
9. Jair Bogaerts, DH: 0-2 (K, 4-3)
SQUAD “B” LINEUP:
1. Trey Martin, CF: 1-3 (1B, 9-6 FC, F-9, CS)
2. Jeimer Candelario, 3B: 0-2 (K, K)
3. Marco Hernandez, SS: 0-2 (L-6, K)
4. Dan Vogelbach, 1B: 0-2 (F-9, K)
5. Xavier Batista, RF: 0-2 (F-9, K)
6. Trevor Gretzky, LF: 1-2 (4-3, 3B, R)
7. Justin Marra, C: 1-2 (1B, K)
8. Brian Inoa, 2B: 1-2 (3-6 FC, 3B, RBI)
9. NO DH
NOTE: SQUAD “B” did not bat in the bottom of the 6th inning
SQUAD “A” PITCHERS:
1. Ethan Elias: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 24 pitches (17 strikes), 1/3 GO/FO
2. Amaury Paulino: 3.0 IP 3 H, 1 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 5 K, 40 pitches (28 strikes), 2/2 GO/FO
NOTE: Paulino did not throw a 4th inning – had already reached max pitch limit
SQUAD “B” PITCHERS:
1. Jose Arias: 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K, 53 pitches (37 strikes), 4/6 GO/FO
2. Luis Villalba: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K, 30 pitches (17 strikes), 3/2 GO/FO
SQUAD “A” ERRORS: NONE
SQUAD “B” ERRORS: NONE
SQUAD “A” CATCHERS DEFENSE:
Wilson Contreras: 1-1 CS
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 7:07pm Permalink
Great work as always, Az Phil.
It seems of late that Dong Yub Kim is starting to put up more consistent numbers. Have you noticed any further discipline from him? I believe you said that he has all the tools, but swings at everything.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 8:36pm Permalink
Fri, 06/01/2012 - 6:07pm — springs
It seems of late that Dong Yub Kim is starting to put up more consistent numbers. Have you noticed any further discipline from him? I believe you said that he has all the tools, but swings at everything.
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SPRINGS: DY Kim is still a hacker, but he has been rakin' ever since he started throwing left-handed.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 4:35pm Permalink
via CM
Campy cf, Castro ss, Mather 3b, Soriano lf, Johnson rf, Baker 1b, Barney 2b, Clevenger c, Maholm p
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 5:59pm Permalink
Can't wait to see what Jeff Baker does tonight
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 6:07pm Permalink
If you don't expect much, then you won't be disappointed.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 6:42pm Permalink
I can't tell what pisses me off more - Mather hitting 3rd, or the Reed Johnson/Jeff Baker combo supposedly protecting Soriano...
I just threw up in my mouth....
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 6:18pm Permalink
Baseball America's latest mock draft has the Cubs going with Almora too.
http://ht.ly/bjiK5
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 6:24pm Permalink
Keith Law as well in his latest mock draft, calling it the "closest thing to a lock in the top 10."
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 7:39pm Permalink
the home plate ump in the t.smokies game has to be legally blind.
his zone is so small stuff falling squarely on the corners (not just a piece of the edge) are being called for balls.
oddly, or not, t.mcnutt is having one of his best games of the season through 5ip. he should have (and the opposing pitcher) a few more Ks, though. it's kinda ruining the game because guys are not swinging at stuff they normally would offer at.
5ip 1h 2bb 1k
btw, though he's still hitting end-of-lineup in AA, m.burgess has made some real improvements with his bat this year (based solely on numbers). he doesn't turn 24 until late October.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 7:46pm Permalink
wow, they're letting mcnutt go more than 5ip (1st time this year...no idea why the limitations because it's not all been suck).
hit pitch count is at 61 going into the 6th, though.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 9:12pm Permalink
6ip 4h 2bb 2k 1er
...didn't finish so strongly, but it only cost him 1 run and he got the win.
c.volstad (AAA)
6ip 9h 2bb 1k 4er
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 11:33pm Permalink
Another HR and another walk for Vitters tonight. He seems to be turning things around. And only 22 in AAA.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 3:39pm Permalink
Vitters really isn't turning anything around. He is currently developing as a LH pinch hitter because thats about the only thing he is decent against.
a .273 average and a .317 OBP against rhp just isn't going to cut it. He is still a massive bust for a 2007 first round pick.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 6:09pm Permalink
Not sure I fully agree. I understand you see him now, but I am not sure the stats uphold your views.
Vitters has regularly been moved up quickly at levels when he showed progress. After each promotion, he struggled for a bit, then became more consistent. He is not yet 23 and is starting to show good life at AAA...in the last ten games, he is .371/.436/.743, with 4 hrs and a double in 35 AB (and 3 BB and only 2 K).
Will he fully develop enough power? Who knows...but I do think he will become someone who hits .280-.300 with 15-20 home runs at the MLB level. As for your LHP pinch hitter, his slugging is better against lefties (as is often true for right handed hitters), but in 2012 he hits .286 against lefties and .273 against righties. Doesn't sound like someone to write off as a match-up only player.
Vitters is putting up better numbers than Brett Jackson right now, and Jackson is about 13 months older than Vitters. Is Jackson a bust as well? Or does he get different treatment because he was drafted out of college? In fact, Vitters is the youngest player on the Iowa Cubs....does this mean that other than Rizzo (who is about 3 weeks older than Vitters), nobody on Iowa will be a success because they haven't dominated yet?
I am rather confused at writing off someone who is in their 22-23 year old season at AAA and doing pretty well.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 6:39pm Permalink
MIKEC has to dis a Cubs draft pick or minor leaguer before the "jury is completely out". Its how he rolls.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 8:58am Permalink
Or you could jump on a players Band Wagon before the "jury is completely out". How is LaHair doing these days E-man or should we quote you again about "eating crow"...?
LaHair has till the end of June to save his entire career. After that point he is bench player at best the rest of his career.
As for Vitters what is there to like about him? No glove, hits .270/.320 .....whooopdy fucking do. Junior Lake is no better, just has better speed.
And everyone's favorite Bjax makes Vittters hitting eye look like Ichiro in his prime. 70 strikeouts in 200 AB's? That rate will explode in the majors while he hits about .150.
Rizzo is it from our system and he isn't home grown like Vitters and Jackson. And Rizzo is only 22 himself....what the hell is Jackson and Vitters problem when using the well they are still young for the level arguement!?!?!?! You either got it or you don't and Vitters and Jackson don't have it and are no where close to finding it.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 9:22am Permalink
1) If BJax batting eye is so bad....how does he manage .265/.343/.505 even while struggling in AAA? A career OBP of .388 so far?
I'll wait to start condemning prospects until they fail in the majors I suppose.
2) For all of LaHair's struggles in May, his May OPS+ was still 116
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 2:47pm Permalink
1) How does he manage to punch out so much? You do realize those rates go higher while walks drop in the transition to the majors don't you? You can't step to the plate and strikeout once for every 2 AB's. And he isn't blessed with + anything.
2) Last 28 days a .682 OPS and dropping fast for LaHair, nuff said on that. Losing 80 points of BA in less than a month does that to you. That's alot of 0fers.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 3:30pm Permalink
Again. LaHair had a great April..a crappy May.
I'm just not going to start burying people yet based on that sample size, as I was not ready to anoint him either
BJax? K's too much. Yep. Somehow he's manage to hit at every level so far, and has put up decent a decent power/speed combo in 3 seasons in the minors.
Again, I'm not just going to dismiss him based on 1/4 of his first full season in AAA.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 4:58pm Permalink
"How does [Jackson] manage to punch out so much?"
He takes a lot of pitches, including, I suspect, third strikes. It seems that whenever I look at a play-by-play game summary and he fans, it's a called third strike. The other day I watched him on gameday and he took every pitch and finally got a 6-pitch walk. This is obviously anecdotal but I don't think anyone is counting swings and misses for minor leaguers.
Everyone says about Jackson that he has "too much swing and miss." Maybe, maybe not. You have to count swings and misses versus takes to say that for sure.
Suppose for a moment that (1) a fairly high percentage of Jackson's K's are takes, and (2) major league umpires put the squeeze on pitchers more than they do at triple A. Would Jackson's K's go up or down in the majors?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 8:04pm Permalink
If he has to hit .280 to get on base 30% of the time. How useful will he really be? Especially considering he hasn't developed real power and his glove is barely functional at 3rd base.
What is the ceiling on him at this point? Jeff Baker without a glove?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:26pm Permalink
Vitters hit his 5th homer in the last 10 games tonight. His walks are improving but may never be a strength, but I still don't really understand....why, if he is on pace for a 20 homer season as the youngest player on our AAA team do you, MikeC and others significantly discount his upside? Especially relative to others...at your and MikeC's analysis, we might not have any useful prospects in our entire system other than Rizzo.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 12:09am Permalink
I'm not sold that we have a star player in our system at this point.
Rizzo is an nice prospect. I can see him being a Carlos Pena type of player going forward.
Bjax has nice plate discipline and some solid tools. He might not make enough contact to be more than a decent regular.
Baez looks great so far. However the lack of walks that low down the system makes you question what will happen when he sees advanced comp. He looks like the highest upside bat.
Beyond those 3 guys, I don't think we have another legitimate MLB starter in the system. Just my humble opinion.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 12:51am Permalink
Arismendy Alcantara?
I'd like to hope that Rizzo will hit better than .237...I hope.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 1:03am Permalink
Well, it seems possible that some of Szczur, DeVoss, Alcantara, Lake, Torreyes, Vogelbach, Shoulders, Candelairo, etc. could become everyday players. But it seems like maybe you're only interested in players who are more safely projectable? I wouldn't place a bet on any of those players individually, but I think that the Cubs will produce an everyday player or two out of guys currently in the farm system and not on that 3-player list.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 11:15am Permalink
"Vitters hit his 5th homer in the last 10 games tonight."
Actually it was his 5th in 8 games. It's his best home-run spurt by far since May 2009 at Peoria when (in the same streak) he hit 5 HRs in 6 games, 8 in 10 games and 10 in 15.
Back then, even Dr. AB was a Vitters fan.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 1:55pm Permalink
I wanted them to draft Weiters at the time. In general I hated that we had to go cheap with the 3rd pick in the draft.
I thought Vitters might be something. He might actually have some kind of MLB career. He just hasn't really ever seemed to improve from year to year. The same issues he's had are the same issues he still has today.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 2:15pm Permalink
I wanted Weiters too, but many assumed that Vitters was going to be selected #2 (by the Royals, I believe). That said, I think his limited improvement is, at least to an extent, explained by his rather swift promotions. He is still the youngest player on our AAA team and is having a nice season and, in my opinion, is showing marked improvement between this season and last.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 2:18pm Permalink
I always thought it was stupid how they kept promoting him after a half season of success at almost every level. Then he would struggle...then end up back at that level the next seson...have success...get promoted...struggle.. rinse and repeat.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 9:47pm Permalink
Agreed,
Though even his "success" at any level has always been in the smallest of sample sizes.
I'm not sure if he's gotten better or learned the leagues better? He still has terrible strike zone judgement and a bad glove by all accounts.
I just can't get behind a guy who isn't more than Scott Moore as our future at 3rd base.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 1:20pm Permalink
If Vitters hits 25 HRs at Iowa this season, as he has started to show signs of doing, he'll start to separate from Moore, who had 22 at double-A at the same age.
But the glaring separator between Vitters and Moore is strikeouts.
Brett Jackson is more the same type of hitter as Moore, except that he's a better version: much higher OBP and SLG, plus he can run and catch.
Anyway, I'm sure you liked Moore at the time, for his walks.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 1:36pm Permalink
Vitters has never been over 18 Homers in a season. Calling for 25 seems fairly optimistic.
He does make contact and doesn't strike out. However he never walks either.
Is it a function of awesome contact, or is it that he looks for the first thing close to the zone to stay away from the 2-strike pitch?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 5:05pm Permalink
I don't know. I haven't been a big fan, but that changes if he hits 25 at Iowa, partly because the Cubs are so desperate right now for a righty slugger. I don't want to have to wait for Baez to climb the ladder, or for Castro to learn what a hitter's count is, which could take as long as it has taken Vitters.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 5:17pm Permalink
i would care a lot more about vitters if his D would improve enough to stick at 3rd.
imo, he's doing well with his bat for a guy his age in AAA...especially the quality of contact he's making early for power. he's not looking like a superstar, but he's looking good enough to say he's done with AA and belongs in AAA.
if he's a .270/.330 avg/ob% guy with 25 HR power at 3rd...that's something many teams would love to live with.
if he's that same guy at RF/LF/1st he's a power bench guy on some teams and a cheap mid-level-talent starter on a few others.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Mon, 06/04/2012 - 5:30pm Permalink
I would take those numbers from Vitters in left field just because no righty hitter above Baez (with the possible exception of Lake) can match them. That's just where we are right now, desperately needing two righty hitters who can produce those numbers. You can trade Garza for a left fielder but then you're getting one less starting pitcher back.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 10:50pm Permalink
Jeff Baker has a glove?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 7:41pm Permalink
j.santana (NYM) no hitter through 6...but 92 pitches.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 8:33pm Permalink
through 7...107 pitches (108 is his season high so far)
...and santana just hit for himself with a man on (sac bunt) and back to sitting alone on the bench...all signs point to an 8th inning.
through 8...122 pitches.
there's never been a mets no-hitter, fwiw.
santana alone on the bench...everything points to him getting a crack at the 9th.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 8:44pm Permalink
to the 9th...
last time someone no hit the cards...FERNANDOMANIA in 1990.
...1 pitch, 1 out in the 9th...good start.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 8:49pm Permalink
...and history gets made. that took long enough mets.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 9:14pm Permalink
san diego last one w out no no
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 11:25pm Permalink
Have the Padres ever had anyone hit for the cycle?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:01am Permalink
My Mets friend always said that the Cubs would win the Series before the Mets threw a no-no. Somehow I believed him.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 8:47pm Permalink
2 of the 3 Met games where their pitchers went into the 9th when they lost the no hitter were vs the Cubs
Jim Qualls and Joe Wallace broke those no hitters up.
one out in the 9th...
edit: 2 outs, 128 pitches.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 8:53pm Permalink
134 pitches, Freese strikes out after going 3-0.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 8:56pm Permalink
awesome game.
this was/is a history game. the 9th was a no-win for the manager whether he chose to send him out or bench him. santana's barely back from a serious shoulder injury so someone's gonna bitch about it and everyone's gonna be watching his next few starts closely.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 9:14pm Permalink
paratrooper chat
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 11:45pm Permalink
Sveum's best move as a manager thus far, making Soriano use a lighter bat!
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 11:49pm Permalink
Phil - do the slot money rules for the draft apply to 4th and 5th year college players? I heard somewhere that there is some sort of exception for them.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 5:25am Permalink
Fri, 06/01/2012 - 10:49pm — DavidP
Phil - do the slot money rules for the draft apply to 4th and 5th year college players? I heard somewhere that there is some sort of exception for them.
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DAVID P: The Signing Bonus Pool (SBP) rule applies to all players eligible for selection in the MLB Rule 4 Draft. There are no exceptions.
What's different for a college senior with no eligibility remaining is that the deadline for signing the player is one week prior to the next Rule 4 Draft (this was the case in previous years as well), rather than the first Friday after the MLB All-Star Game (which is the new signing deadline for all other players selected in the Rule 4 Draft or who were eligible for selection but were not drafted).
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 2:27am Permalink
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/
Mock draft #3 for BA and have Cubs taking Almora.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 10:45am Permalink
Per Ken Rosenthal, Jorge Soler has been cleared by the U.S. and is now an eligible free agent.
C'mon JedStein...Daddy needs a new OF prospect...
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 10:53am Permalink
incredible. Two days before the draft. Coincidence?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 11:31am Permalink
what does it have to do with the draft?
I do hope the Cubs get him though.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 12:30pm Permalink
i would think for those interested in signing the player, it would play into their drafting strategies and budgets.
It is strange that this happened on a Saturday, and the draft is Monday.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 2:16pm Permalink
Kevin Goldstein@Kevin_Goldstein
Source indicates that Jorge Soler's agent, Barry Praver, has requested that offers for his client be submitted by Thursday, June 7.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 12:28pm Permalink
Phil - if a college player with no eligibility left does not sign, does he eventually become a free agent, with the ability to sign for anything with anybody, or is he eligible for the draft forever?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 5:46pm Permalink
I believe he becomes a free agent approximately a week before the next draft.
EDIT: Phil touched on it on the previous page of comments and said it was the week before the '13 draft.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 3:26pm Permalink
well, here's that lineup shakeup we heard about a couple weeks ago...
Campy CF, Castro SS, DeJesus RF, Soriano LF, LaHair 1B, Clevenger C, Barney 2B, Mather 3B, Garza P
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 4:04pm Permalink
forgot it's Fox East Coast Yanks/RSox game of the week night.
it makes sense...still don't like it...
let me watch whatever game i want and serve the local +national ad buys up on my terms...whatever...INCREASE YO REVENUE GAME, FOX.
i guess we have to wait til everyone in the world goes FIOS or whatever til we have the bandwidth for that kind of offering.
all i know is i'm sick of watching BOS/NYY.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 4:53pm Permalink
sigh...
"Pablo Sandoval is being questioned by Bay Area police regarding a possible sexual assault incident that took place early Friday morning."
http://www.csnbayarea.com/baseball-san-franci...
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 6:26pm Permalink
If you can't bang a blackout drunk chick, why even bother going to college?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 6:41pm Permalink
That's pretty creepy now as someone with a daughter in college.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:12pm Permalink
I have 16 more years to worry about that. Just wait til they start doing bath salts on college campuses.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 12:12am Permalink
Until they start? That ship sailed in 2009.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 7:13pm Permalink
Kevin Goldstein@Kevin_Goldstein
Javier Baez rips a single in the first. Crazy bat speed.
Kevin Goldstein@Kevin_Goldstein
Javier Baez crushes a home run to center. Just crushed. Sold
Kevin Goldstein@Kevin_Goldstein
Baez home run cleared the Pepsi sign. As long a shot as I've seen in this park since Jason Stokes played here.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:21pm Permalink
Kevin Goldstein@Kevin_Goldstein
Javier Baez swings at a 3-0 pitch and gets one in the ribs with the next pitch. Welcome to pro ball, kid.
Kevin Goldstein@Kevin_Goldstein
Every scout and every pitcher behind home plate agrees. Baez deserved that one.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:24pm Permalink
Sat, 06/02/2012 - 8:21pm — QuietMan
Kevin Goldstein@Kevin_Goldstein
Javier Baez swings at a 3-0 pitch and gets one in the ribs with the next pitch. Welcome to pro ball, kid.
Kevin Goldstein@Kevin_Goldstein
Every scout and every pitcher behind home plate agrees. Baez deserved that one.
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Q-MAN: Kevin Goldstein apparently was not aware that Javier Baez can do whatver the fuck he wants.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:31pm Permalink
Nice one Phil!
You not surprised by Baez's miscue ?
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:40pm Permalink
Sat, 06/02/2012 - 8:31pm — Childersb3
You not surprised by Baez's miscue ?
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CHILDERS: Not surprised at all.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:29pm Permalink
Mind you....that was swinging at a 3-0 pitch when your team is up 13-2 in the ninth inning. Mainly looking to crush one in a meaningless at bat.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 9:37pm Permalink
Sat, 06/02/2012 - 8:29pm — springs
Mind you....that was swinging at a 3-0 pitch when your team is up 13-2 in the ninth inning. Mainly looking to crush one in a meaningless at bat.
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SPRINGS: I think if you asked him, Javier Baez would tell you there are no meaningless ABs. And then he would tell you... well, you know...
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 11:10pm Permalink
Phil, I think..........no I am certain..........I have a serious 'man-crush' on Javier Baez. Baseball (and the Cubs, especially) needs more players like him in the game. Sorry, if that offends anyone, but I would find a spot in my lineup for any player like that.
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 11:12am Permalink
He can do whatever the fuck he wants!
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 1:03pm Permalink
......and I dig that about him!
Re: Diamondbacks & Cubs Split, Man
on Sat, 06/02/2012 - 7:46pm Permalink
it's June and BAL is still in 1st place. lulz, basesballs.
very tight race...tied for 1st with TB and the 3/4/5 teams are 1/2/3 games back. all 5 are over .500.