Game 74 Thread - Wells vs. Gee

It was nice of the Cubs to start Wells to temper any real expectations we may have had for tonight's game.

Mets
Cubs
*Nieuwenhuis, CF
*Rizzo, CF
Tejada, SS
Rizzo, SS
Wright, 3B
*Rizzo, 1B
*Duda, RF
Rizzo, LF
*Davis, 1B
*Rizzo, RF
Hairston, LF
*Rizzo, 3B
*Murphy, 2B
Rizzo, 2B
*Thole, C
*Rizzo, C
Gee, P
Rizzo, P

As everyone knows by now, Anthony Rizzo has been called up and is immediately inserted into the #3 spot in the lineup. The last highly anticipated Cubs debut was May 7th, 2010 versus the Reds in Cincinnati and Starlin didn't do much other than go 2/5 with a HR, a triple and 6 RBI's in a 14-7 Cubs win.

The Cubs may be 23 games under .500, but they have managed a non-cringe inducing 15-19 record at home. So they have that going for them. At least for one night, it'll be worth paying attention to the team. I'll probably stop by parachat tonight, at least for the Rizzo at-bats.

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if you couldn't figure out the lineup from the positions,

DeJesus, Castro, Rizzo, Soriano, LaHair, Valbuena, Barney, Clevenger, Wells

wow...bob applejacks, COL pitching coach, asked to be reassigned in the organization.

along with a player shoulder-checking jim tracy after being taken out of a game recently...this whole 4-man-75-pitch experiment isn't being met with open arms.

i wonder who's pushing this...

If anyone knows any streams I would be eternally grateful.

speaking of, but kinda not...i hope EI subscribers (only 1 feed tonight) aren't stuck with the NYM feed.

-edit- BAH! mets feed.

official scoring #1.

a should-be double play error is ruled (changed to) a single.

sigh...

anyway, rizzo has his 1st hit as a cub.

Clevenger fail on a pop-up.

Did throw out Niewenhuis (sp?) earlier.

Yes first inning

L. Duda base running fail saves the Cubs a run.

Castro/Rizzo due up, come visit Parachat.

Three things tonight:

1. Thank God the savior is here (Rizzo)
2. Thank you, Dale, for giving the hook to Wells in the 4th inning
3. Who is that #12 in LF? - With those catches and 45 RBIs, someone would pay a couple million of the $45M remaining on his contract.

Sveum pulling Wells tonight is the ONE time all year that I exclaimed out loud, "Nice move, Sveum! Yes!!"

Wells = L. Still.

But I suppose he could be a #8 starter on some teams...

concur completely. walking a pitcher who is trying to give you a free out via sac bunt? is that part of the textbook definition of "cubbery"?

Just an interesting statistical note- Rizzo currently has a career 1.250 OPS, which would be a record among hall of famers if he were to be inducted today.

Actually, he has a career .545 OPS, which would be close to a record low among hall of famers if he were elected today.

You do know that he played in the big leagues last year, right?

lol... really? That's the only thing that seemed wrong with my comment?

I hope this Theo-corp puts a mandate on not walking batters the Cubs and Iowa cubs were both 3rd in walks allowed last time i checked and Wells sucks at throwing strikes someday we will see some strike throwers in Chicago.

due to a change in official scoring, congrats to rizzo on throwing his 1st complete game shutout in his pro pitching debut of which he never took the mound. very impressive.

along with his batting performance it was a hell of a debut.

WHO?

Anthony Rizzo, clean out your fucking ears, jackass!

Am I supposed to know you, Mr. Rizzo?

It's probably better you don't, you'd be shitting your fucking pants there, beefy tits!

Only got to watch the video highlights, but Rizzo looked like he did a great job hitting the ball with authority towards left field on both of his hits (and I'd say a "hit" ruling on the first one is pretty reasonable, though the second hit wasn't a legit double). Looking forward to watching this guy play.

Also, Valbuena has 5 errors already. Stone hands? Seems like Bobby Scales redux.

無料 BOBBY SCALES!

Lulz.

Or to put it in other terms, he's striking out in 38.6 percent of all his at-bats this season. That's the second most in the minors, trailing only Astros first baseman Telvin Nash, who has 124 strikeouts in 246 at-bats.

The strikeout problem has gotten worse this month for Jackson. He's struck out an amazing 44 times in 25 games this month and Tuesday was the seventh time this month that he has struck out three times in a game.

Drew Stubbs comp in there as well although clearly saying Stubbs had better tools coming up in the minors.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects...

I hope we don't see him in Chicago anytime this season, I don't see the point.

considering he's not even on the 40-man, probably won't even get a September call-up at this rate.

"although clearly saying Stubbs had better tools coming up in the minors."

Cooper does say that Stubbs "has more speed than Jackson and a touch more power."

At Jackson's age, 23, they both had about 80 stolen bases. Then at 24, Stubbs stole 46 bases in AAA.

"A touch more power" is not clearly saying something, and in any case, it's false. Power-wise, Stubbs hit 28 homers in 426 games in the minors. Jackson has 51 in 370 games.

I don't actually predict big base-stealing numbers from Jackson in the majors. He's too big for that. He injures himself when he slides a lot, especially head first.

I'm as perplexed as everyone else by Jackson's erratic offensive performance so far this year. For the moment, I'm willing to chalk it up to Rizzo-envy.

Still, I like to add up a player's total bases, walks and steals. If you do that for Jackson's peers in the PCL, you'll find that he is #6 behind Elmore, Gose, Rizzo, Eaton and Wheeler. So he is being fairly productive in spite of the mounting K's.

He was obviously talking about what scouts graded his power tool, not power numbers. Considering the righty vs. lefty difference, different leagues, etc, it's not going to be a perfect comp.

Wells DFA'd, Dolis up.

Wells = L.

I am rooting for Maine. Every team should have a player named after a State.

In every time up, he has laid an egg at the MLB level.

We need him to be productive in some capacity.

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    Charlie 16 min 40 sec ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 17 min 11 sec ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 19 min 54 sec ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 23 min 14 sec ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

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    Tito 23 min 42 sec ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 27 min 54 sec ago view
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    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 40 min 19 sec ago view
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    #baseballtalk

    Tito 45 min 54 sec ago view
  • if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.

    aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.

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    crunch 48 min 4 sec ago view
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    The E-Man 2 hours 6 min ago view
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    Butterfinger or Baby Ruth?

    VirginiaPhil 2 hours 20 min ago view
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    #baseballtalk

    Tito 2 hours 32 min ago view
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    The E-Man 2 hours 35 min ago view
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    #baseballtalk

    Tito 2 hours 36 min ago view
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    Tito 2 hours 47 min ago view
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    billybucks 3 hours 20 min ago view