Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up

Baseball's fourth season is about to warm up and I'll try and summarize all the gossip every couple of days.

- Ken Rosenthal says that Ryan Dempster won't sign with the Cubs before the Cubs exclusive negotiating window closes on November 13th. A rather wise move by him and his agent. There's no reason not to test the waters and see what is actually available for him as rival teams cannot discuss money over the next two weeks. He still may very well sign with the Cubs on a hometown discount, but that discount will be based on what the prevailing market is offering. Rosenthal speculates a four year deal for Dempster with the Cubs interested in three years. Rosenthal also speculates that if the Cubs cannot resign Dempster, they'll up their efforts on Jake Peavy, which sounds like a grand plan to me.

- Bruce Miles at The Daily Herald says Jim Hendry is ready for the GM meetings this week.

"This isn't a club that needs an overhaul," Hendry
insisted. "It's a 97-win club that just played very poorly for three
games in the postseason. When things settle in and a few weeks go by,
it's not like you need 15 new guys.

"You want to add three or four more guys or shuffle the
deck a little bit. It's the nature of the game. You make roster
changes. People come, people go. It's certainly not an overhaul club.
It's just a club that our goal is to make it better than it was at the
end of the regular season and get ready to take another shot at it."

Miles also suggest that the Cubs are more interested in bringing Kerry Wood back on a one-year deal with a couple of option years. It's likely that Kerry will get some guaranteed multi-year offers though, so we'll see how deep that Cubbie blood runs in Kerry.

- The Trib's Paul Sullivan reports the Cubs have fired Kosuke Fukudome's translator in hopes of finding someone who jells better with him, which I read as "has a better understanding of where the good strip clubs are in each city". Sullivan also guesses that if Fukudome is indeed moved to center field, either Felix Pie's days as a Cub are numbered or they'll find a leadoff hitting second basemen and move DeRosa to right field. The only leadofff hitting second basemen that go from the left side that I can think of are Brian Roberts, Chone Figgins and Akinori Iwamura, unless someone thinks Orlando Hudson is up for the job. I know Brian Roberts will be a hot topic again this offseason, but Andy McPhail did recently mention they'd like to extend him and I'm not sure Figgins or Iwamura will be available either.

 

 

Comments

Cubs futility sign updated on Sheffield-

http://deadspin.com/5074692/96--97--98--99-

I understand the concerns about Peavy's health, but it's amazing how reactionary baseball can be. A year ago, an exchange of Dempster for Peavy would have been unthinkable, but now, there are those among us that would rather lock up Dempster.

It's Jake freaking Peavy. The field is clear for the Cubs to make a move, and Towers is ready to deal NOW. Unload the farm system, get your draft picks for Demp and move forward to position players.

You don't think having 60% of the rotation filled by guys with a history of shoulder problems would be like the 2005-2006 days?

Yeah, it's a concern. But you're talking about three aces in the prime of their careers, none of whom have had major shoulder problems. Dempster, on the other hand, has had major elbow problems and is also several years older.

I'd be thrilled if Dempster returns, but if given the choice, I'd prefer Peavy. Hell, I'd prefer both of them to Marquis, but that's probably a pipe dream.

Well, Peavy's got elbow and shoulder problems. Elbow problems = TJ surgery and out for a year. Shoulder problems = Mark Prior.

I think if we trade for Peavy, that Harden should be part of the deal, maybe a three way trade to get a high end prospect. Otherwise it's just too much boom or bust for the rotation.

The other concern is Peavy isn't quite making FA money in 2009, but trading for him will approximate a big dollar signing. Dempster made what, $6.5 last year? Peavy is scheduled to make almost twice that.

Rotation of:
Zambrano $17.75
Peavy $11
Lilly $12
Marquis $9.75
Harden $7

: is a lot of cash ($59.5 million). Hendry will probably back load Dempster's contract. If Harden and/or Marquis go in trades, then there's a little more wiggle room for Peavy. Having Dempster and Peavy - don't see how that could work out after 2009, that would be like $60 million just for the top 4 guys.

At the end of the day, though, I'd prefer a rotation with the safe and steady guys over the high risk/reward guys.

At least with Peavy you know your getting a guy who will be good if healthy, with Dempster you dont know if this year was a fluke. some of Peavy's arm troubles could have very well been not wanting to risk pitching for a bad team during a dead arm period.

Peavy had a 99 ERA+ in 2006. For reference that's the same number Jason Marquis put up this year. For whatever reason, he gave up a lot of HR's that year.

fwiw, this guy has a rundown of Peavy's injury history

http://www.dugoutcentral.com/blog/?p=1944

forearm, elbow and shoulder tendonitis...

no structural damage in his last MRI, but whatever..

Cards interested in Renteria, Fuentes

Brewers pick up Cameron's $10MM option and have or will offer CC 4/110

Nats interested in Adam Dunn

"4/110"

That's an obscene amount of money for a team with an $81M payroll.

" . . . either Felix Pie's days as a Cub are numbered or they'll find a leadoff hitting second basemen and move DeRosa to right field."

Rob, that EITHER/OR was AND in Sullivan's piece.

well thank god that's fixed....you saved the Internet.

BB is on the 'list' of guys to be looked over for the Mariners' job.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/386111_mari...

The Orioles are wanting to dump Ramon Hernandez, I wonder if by offering to take him and part of his salary if we could get Roberts a bit cheaper.

Maybe we can take all the salary and get Markakis too? Har.

I don't think this will surprise anybody, but...

"Re-signing Dempster and Wood are Hendry's priorities, but he also is expected to seek a new leadoff man to push Soriano down in the order, a new right fielder to push Fukudome into a platoon role and middle relief help from both the left and right sides."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs...

that's the same link in the post...

Take this as with a grain of salt:

Heard this from Simone Adamle:

but I heard that Hendry was playing golf with Kevin Towers about a possible trade for Peavy. Names brought up were Pie, Marshall, Ronnie Cedeno.

Allegedly this came from WMVP Chicago

If it was those three and only those three, all I gotta say is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but I heard that Hendry was playing golf with Kevin Towers...

right, and after the round of golf they are going to #22's house for cookies and milk.

i stated my source

I've heard the speculation was Towers wants 4 players back from all teams he's talking with, including those 3 rumored - Marshall, Pie, Cedeno and apparently he wants Jose Ceda back as well. If the Padres do indeed want Cedeno then I'd be willing to bet Towers would make Hendry take K.Greene and his full contract in the deal as well.

also the Yankees signed Sergio Mitre
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081103&c...

first link in the comments is a story about what Towers is looking for....

 

I'll confirm Chad's source -- I heard Bruce Levine report that the Pads are interested in a Marshall/Pie/Cedeno/Ceda package.

that would be beyond awesome...but I don't buy it

Apparently that may have been what the Cubs offered. Not gonna do it, Jim.

I am sure AZ Phil was all over this, but for anyone else who missed it, sounds like the Cubs got a 2ndish and 6this rounder out of Korea recently.

http://eastwindupchronicle.com/couple-of-new-korea...

Rotoworld saying the Cubs traded nonprospect, RHP Matt Avery to the Nats for Brian Buchter, LHP non-prospect. At least our non-prospect is 21 (Avery is 25).

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Ain't the GM meetings fun!

Hendry feels Hoffpauir may help-
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=247539

Dempster could be attractive to the NY teams-

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8748676/Dempste...

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  • ...and the Bryant RBI jinx continues in the 3rd....crap.

    billybucks 1 hour 25 min ago view
  • bryant's in the dugout filling a police report BECAUSE HE JUST GOT ROBBED.

    f'n cabrerra...

    crunch 2 hours 2 min ago view
  • chapman showing up and available tomorrow night.

    i'm sure he'll be a bit hit. hope he doesn't choke. dude has a rifle for an arm. he'll add a bit of punch to the bullpen.

    crunch 2 hours 3 min ago view
  • the 'crosstown classic' sure has lost it's magic with interleague. the excitement level is barely noticable...maybe it's a bit more hype in the city, itself.

    crunch 2 hours 8 min ago view
  • Well he didn't leave a mark so its not that bad.

    Fuck that.

    Facts:

    He choked her.

    Her brother tackled him to separate him.

    He cooled off by shooting his gun in the garage.

    I don't have to like him on the team I follow.

    And you are others are free to not give a shit about his personal misgivings if you so choose as well.

     

     

    Rob G. 2 hours 26 min ago view
  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 3 hours 38 min ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 3 hours 38 min ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 4 hours 2 min ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 4 hours 6 min ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 5 hours 35 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 5 hours 43 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 5 hours 55 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 5 hours 57 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 6 hours 19 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 6 hours 19 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 6 hours 28 min ago view