Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
Baseball's fourth season is about to warm up and I'll try and summarize all the gossip every couple of days.
- Ken Rosenthal says that Ryan Dempster won't sign with the Cubs before the Cubs exclusive negotiating window closes on November 13th. A rather wise move by him and his agent. There's no reason not to test the waters and see what is actually available for him as rival teams cannot discuss money over the next two weeks. He still may very well sign with the Cubs on a hometown discount, but that discount will be based on what the prevailing market is offering. Rosenthal speculates a four year deal for Dempster with the Cubs interested in three years. Rosenthal also speculates that if the Cubs cannot resign Dempster, they'll up their efforts on Jake Peavy, which sounds like a grand plan to me.
- Bruce Miles at The Daily Herald says Jim Hendry is ready for the GM meetings this week.
"This isn't a club that needs an overhaul," Hendry
insisted. "It's a 97-win club that just played very poorly for three
games in the postseason. When things settle in and a few weeks go by,
it's not like you need 15 new guys."You want to add three or four more guys or shuffle the
deck a little bit. It's the nature of the game. You make roster
changes. People come, people go. It's certainly not an overhaul club.
It's just a club that our goal is to make it better than it was at the
end of the regular season and get ready to take another shot at it."
Miles also suggest that the Cubs are more interested in bringing Kerry Wood back on a one-year deal with a couple of option years. It's likely that Kerry will get some guaranteed multi-year offers though, so we'll see how deep that Cubbie blood runs in Kerry.
- The Trib's Paul Sullivan reports the Cubs have fired Kosuke Fukudome's translator in hopes of finding someone who jells better with him, which I read as "has a better understanding of where the good strip clubs are in each city". Sullivan also guesses that if Fukudome is indeed moved to center field, either Felix Pie's days as a Cub are numbered or they'll find a leadoff hitting second basemen and move DeRosa to right field. The only leadofff hitting second basemen that go from the left side that I can think of are Brian Roberts, Chone Figgins and Akinori Iwamura, unless someone thinks Orlando Hudson is up for the job. I know Brian Roberts will be a hot topic again this offseason, but Andy McPhail did recently mention they'd like to extend him and I'm not sure Figgins or Iwamura will be available either.
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Peavy talk
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 4:24am Permalink
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/nov/02...
In case you were worried
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 10:42am Permalink
Cubs futility sign updated on Sheffield-
http://deadspin.com/5074692/96--97--98--99-
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 11:39am Permalink
I understand the concerns about Peavy's health, but it's amazing how reactionary baseball can be. A year ago, an exchange of Dempster for Peavy would have been unthinkable, but now, there are those among us that would rather lock up Dempster.
It's Jake freaking Peavy. The field is clear for the Cubs to make a move, and Towers is ready to deal NOW. Unload the farm system, get your draft picks for Demp and move forward to position players.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 12:23pm Permalink
You don't think having 60% of the rotation filled by guys with a history of shoulder problems would be like the 2005-2006 days?
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 12:56pm Permalink
Yeah, it's a concern. But you're talking about three aces in the prime of their careers, none of whom have had major shoulder problems. Dempster, on the other hand, has had major elbow problems and is also several years older.
I'd be thrilled if Dempster returns, but if given the choice, I'd prefer Peavy. Hell, I'd prefer both of them to Marquis, but that's probably a pipe dream.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 2:18pm Permalink
Well, Peavy's got elbow and shoulder problems. Elbow problems = TJ surgery and out for a year. Shoulder problems = Mark Prior.
I think if we trade for Peavy, that Harden should be part of the deal, maybe a three way trade to get a high end prospect. Otherwise it's just too much boom or bust for the rotation.
The other concern is Peavy isn't quite making FA money in 2009, but trading for him will approximate a big dollar signing. Dempster made what, $6.5 last year? Peavy is scheduled to make almost twice that.
Rotation of:
Zambrano $17.75
Peavy $11
Lilly $12
Marquis $9.75
Harden $7
: is a lot of cash ($59.5 million). Hendry will probably back load Dempster's contract. If Harden and/or Marquis go in trades, then there's a little more wiggle room for Peavy. Having Dempster and Peavy - don't see how that could work out after 2009, that would be like $60 million just for the top 4 guys.
At the end of the day, though, I'd prefer a rotation with the safe and steady guys over the high risk/reward guys.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Tue, 11/04/2008 - 1:57am Permalink
At least with Peavy you know your getting a guy who will be good if healthy, with Dempster you dont know if this year was a fluke. some of Peavy's arm troubles could have very well been not wanting to risk pitching for a bad team during a dead arm period.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Tue, 11/04/2008 - 6:45am Permalink
Peavy had a 99 ERA+ in 2006. For reference that's the same number Jason Marquis put up this year. For whatever reason, he gave up a lot of HR's that year.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Tue, 11/04/2008 - 3:09am Permalink
fwiw, this guy has a rundown of Peavy's injury history
http://www.dugoutcentral.com/blog/?p=1944
forearm, elbow and shoulder tendonitis...
no structural damage in his last MRI, but whatever..
Gossip
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 11:46am Permalink
Cards interested in Renteria, Fuentes
Brewers pick up Cameron's $10MM option and have or will offer CC 4/110
Nats interested in Adam Dunn
Re: Gossip
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 11:52am Permalink
"4/110"
That's an obscene amount of money for a team with an $81M payroll.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 12:22pm Permalink
" . . . either Felix Pie's days as a Cub are numbered or they'll find a leadoff hitting second basemen and move DeRosa to right field."
Rob, that EITHER/OR was AND in Sullivan's piece.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 12:38pm Permalink
well thank god that's fixed....you saved the Internet.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 12:22pm Permalink
BB is on the 'list' of guys to be looked over for the Mariners' job.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/386111_mari...
The Orioles are wanting to dump Ramon Hernandez, I wonder if by offering to take him and part of his salary if we could get Roberts a bit cheaper.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 12:59pm Permalink
Maybe we can take all the salary and get Markakis too? Har.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 1:10pm Permalink
I don't think this will surprise anybody, but...
"Re-signing Dempster and Wood are Hendry's priorities, but he also is expected to seek a new leadoff man to push Soriano down in the order, a new right fielder to push Fukudome into a platoon role and middle relief help from both the left and right sides."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs...
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 3:25pm Permalink
that's the same link in the post...
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 1:11pm Permalink
Take this as with a grain of salt:
Heard this from Simone Adamle:
but I heard that Hendry was playing golf with Kevin Towers about a possible trade for Peavy. Names brought up were Pie, Marshall, Ronnie Cedeno.
Allegedly this came from WMVP Chicago
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 1:42pm Permalink
If it was those three and only those three, all I gotta say is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 1:18pm Permalink
but I heard that Hendry was playing golf with Kevin Towers...
right, and after the round of golf they are going to #22's house for cookies and milk.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 1:24pm Permalink
i stated my source
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 3:29pm Permalink
I've heard the speculation was Towers wants 4 players back from all teams he's talking with, including those 3 rumored - Marshall, Pie, Cedeno and apparently he wants Jose Ceda back as well. If the Padres do indeed want Cedeno then I'd be willing to bet Towers would make Hendry take K.Greene and his full contract in the deal as well.
also the Yankees signed Sergio Mitre
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081103&c...
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 3:30pm Permalink
first link in the comments is a story about what Towers is looking for....
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 10:06pm Permalink
I'll confirm Chad's source -- I heard Bruce Levine report that the Pads are interested in a Marshall/Pie/Cedeno/Ceda package.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 11:33pm Permalink
that would be beyond awesome...but I don't buy it
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Tue, 11/04/2008 - 5:19am Permalink
Apparently that may have been what the Cubs offered. Not gonna do it, Jim.
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 2:44pm Permalink
I am sure AZ Phil was all over this, but for anyone else who missed it, sounds like the Cubs got a 2ndish and 6this rounder out of Korea recently.
http://eastwindupchronicle.com/couple-of-new-korea...
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 4:16pm Permalink
Rotoworld saying the Cubs traded nonprospect, RHP Matt Avery to the Nats for Brian Buchter, LHP non-prospect. At least our non-prospect is 21 (Avery is 25).
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Ain't the GM meetings fun!
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 5:03pm Permalink
Hendry feels Hoffpauir may help-
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=247539
Re: Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up
on Mon, 11/03/2008 - 5:11pm Permalink
Dempster could be attractive to the NY teams-
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8748676/Dempste...