Tuesday Cubs Hot Stove Round-Up

UPDATE: Looks like Kevin Towers jumped the gun on saying Peavy is willing to go to the Angels or Yankees, as Peavy's agent Barry Axelrod denies the report. Axelrod said Peavy may consider either team but it would require a healthy dose of extra compensation.

CBS's Scott Miller talks about the golf game between Hendry and Towers and throws Rich Hill's name into the mix.


 

- Bruce Levine reported on the radio talks between the Cubs and Padres centered around Sean Marshall, Felix Pie, Ronny Cedeno and Jose Ceda.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not enough.

The Trib's Dave Van Dyck  quotes a scout saying the Cubs lack the talent the Padres want but has a source that also mentions Felix Pie, Ronny Cedeno and others. It goes on to say that it's definitley Peavy OR Dempster for the Cubs and not Peavy AND Dempster. He finishes it off by mentioning that he believes Wood would be the better bet to get signed before the Nov. 13th exclusive negotiating window ends.

- In a separate article, van Dyck says the Cubs have some interest in Raul Ibanez.

- To add to the fun, Peavy has added the Anaheim Angels and New York Yankees to his list of teams he'd consider waiving his no-trade clause. It does say that Peavy would still prefer one of the 5 N.L. teams he originally listed - Houston, St. Louis, Chicago, Atlanta or Los Angeles.

- Chris DeLuca at the Sun-Times throws the Cubs hat in the CC sweepstakes if he doesn't resign with the Brewers. Greg Maddux is currently leaning towards retirement as well.

Comments

no one cares about ben sheets :(

i think the only good thing about all this is it **SEEMS** the cubs are gonna end up with 1 of dumpster/peavy/cc/sheets...or at least you'd imagine given how much importance is being placed on replacing (or retaining) dumpster.

hope a hard-throwing harden shows up this spring. he had a decent end-run, but damn he was low on velocity in the playoffs.

hope Z is healthy and effective, too.

I think that Sheets is probably going to wind up with a 1 year with options contract that vests with innings. When your team is in the playoffs for the first time in 25 years and you get reduced to glorified bat selector, that's not a good sign.

Again, not a good fit for the Cubs, unless we're confident that Atkins can do a reasonable impression of a MLB starter next year.

Um. The Cubs need to stay far away from Sheets. Peavy's potential arm problems scare you? I'd take Lowe over Sheets. Heck, I might take Burnett over Sheets, and he's no sure bet either.

According to Bruce Levine ESPN 1000

TCR's sources say Mark Prior is Plan D, then Dave Dravecky

Rob G:

"TCR's sources say Mark Prior is Plan D, then Dave Dravecky"

Get 'em both. Between the two of them they've got 2 good arms.

I hear Prior's left arm is still in great shape.

I wouldn't be displeased if the Cubs got Javier Vazquez. Not sure what the White Sox are looking for, but the article mentions they're not crazy about their 2nd basemen.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whit...

Eyre does say "Don't say it so loud" or something like that, but doesn't he also say "Hear, hear" right after Jenkins speaks?

I felt bad about the way that Stevie Eyre left, but you got your ring dude. Shut the fuck up now.

STFU? He didn't say it. it's obvious to me that he was none to happy about being run from the cubs. He seems to dislike Pinella and prolly told his new team about it.

Jenkins was the one mouthing off.

and pinella earned it.

the guy had his suck, he took it like a man...he had his injury, he took it like a man...then he returned and wasn't played.

there was a point where he was warmed up 5+ times in a row over a week+ without even entering a game. he got up to work...he wasn't used.

guy isn't god's gift to pitching, but he was being shafted like hell by not even seeing work in blowouts, losses, or anything at all.

that said...who cares? it's just words. heh...

TCR's sources say Mark Prior is Plan D, then Dave Dravecky
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Can Hippo Vaughn be far behind?

Argh. It pains me how perfect the situation is set up for the Cubs to snatch Peavy now. Yes, they don't really have the prospects but Towers doesn't seem to care. Give 'em Pie, Cedeno, Hill, Marshall, and Ceda or anybody else and walk away happy. I, for one, would still try to re-sign Dempster and then unload Marquis on anyone that'll take him. After his decent year this year, someone will.

By Friday, the Braves will have decided to trade Hanson, Schafer, or Escobar and it'll be over.

I think it would be stupid to let Dempster walk. He's probably not going to win any Cy Youngs, but he's a quality pitcher we can get without giving up any prospects.

Of course I'd like Peavy as well, but at least with Dempster it's only money the Cubs are giving up.

Depending on how you look at it - resigning Dempster is like 'giving up' two draft picks - probably one in the 20's and a sandwhich pick. Of course if you then sign Lowe to replace him - you're back at square one (or maybe a little better off because you give up a pretty high 1st rounder and get one a little lower back).

Burnett opts out

Pavano and Giambi had their options declined

Scott Olsen being actively shopped around by the Marlins.

The former Mr. Alyssa Milano Carl Pavano is seeking work? That's shocking.

I say we get Giambi on a 1 year deal to be the new Daryl Ward.

breakdown of Peavy's perceived trade value based on TRA

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/jake-pea...

and Toronto signed Les Walrond.

what is SD interested in anyway?

SP, obviously...C...maybe 2nd...maybe relief...

everything else seems covered while SP and C are definitely immediate needs.

SD already needs more SP without getting rid of Peavy so i imagine they'd be looking a SP-heavy package as a start.

where have you been?

SP and middle infield is supposedly what they've been asking about.

like most pre-DEC rumors...not following them closely

and if SD isn't looking C then they're planning on buying one because they have less than adequate coverage there.

should add that they've always had interest in Felix Pie, so a solid defensive CF option is likely as well.

As I've mentioned before, I can't image a deal that doesn't involve Samardzija, Marmol and Soto and I don't think any 3 of them are available.

I don't see Vitters being involved, nor should he, way too much upside there and too far from the majors to waste in a packaged deal right now.

3/36 supposedly offered to Dempster by the Cubs...

Braves have contacted his agent.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/...

Braves have also talked to DEMPSTER’s agent, not surprising because I know how much Bobby likes him and Frank Wren has known him since they were both with Marlins. People I talked to seem to think Dempster will go back to Chicago, that he just wants to see what’s out there to make sure he’s not taking a far lesser deal (Cubs offered three years, $36 mill) to stay in Chicago. But he loves it there and he’s likely to re-sign.

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  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 55 min 27 sec ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 56 min 17 sec ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 2 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 1 hour 39 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 1 hour 39 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 1 hour 42 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 1 hour 45 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 1 hour 46 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 1 hour 50 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 2 hours 2 min ago view
  • I read it as him saying it's not really that much of a concern and that the one time it really cost Lester, vs. K.C., was an anomaly.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 2 hours 8 min ago view
  • if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.

    aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.

    exploitable, needs his own personal catcher to control his shortcomings, relies on his ability to get outs along with his personal catcher keeping runners in check before things become further exploited...

    crunch 2 hours 10 min ago view
  • That would be Rice Krispy Treat

    The E-Man 3 hours 29 min ago view
  • "Crunch's cousin"

    Butterfinger or Baby Ruth?

    VirginiaPhil 3 hours 43 min ago view
  • I saw the first three innings and the last three, so I didn't see Arrieta get hit. His stuff looked nasty at first...what happened? Any insight from anyone who watched?

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 55 min ago view
  • That question came from CRUNCH's cousin.

    The E-Man 3 hours 58 min ago view