DeJesus Traded

The Cubs have traded outfielder David DeJesus to the Washington Nationals for a player to be named later....hopefully one that can do as well as what the Cubs got for Scott Hairston. Since joining the Daytona Cubs, Ivan Pineyro has a 3.18 ERA in 6 starts over 34 IP, giving up just 1 HR, 4 BB's and striking out 27.

A bit of a surprise move, moreso that the Nationals are still trying this year. The Cubs are off the hook for the rest of what DeJesus was owed this season (about $1M) as well as the $1.5M buyout on his 2014 contract...so a guaranteed savings of at least $2.5M. Had they picked up the option, it was worth $6.5M

This should make for an interesting offseason and spring. Nate Schierholtz could be the only veteran still around, that is if he's not moved as well. Or they may go with three fresh faces. I don't by any means think Junior Lake is guaranteed anything, although I certainly think he'll be in competition for a spot. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Kris Bryant makes a run at a spot, although more likely a mid-season call-up.

As for what it means this year, well I think Brian Bogusevic should be close to returning, otherwise it means the quest for a better draft pick spot continues.

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Tonight...Lake CF, Barney 2B, Navarro C, Schierholtz RF, Castro SS, Murphy 3B, McDonald LF, Ransom 1B, Samardzija P

per Muskat: ...Bogusevic to be activated from DL and join team

per Roto...Rizzo is day-to-day with an undisclosed illness. Cody Ransom is starting at first base in his absence.

presuming Nationals are set with Werth, Span and Harper next season, tough to imagine they'd pick up DeJesus's contract at $6.5M for a 4th outfielder. Cubs could bring him back for less possibly.

So, we are FOR SURE gonna make up ground on the Sox and Miami. Gonna be tough to catch the Astros though.

Great move in my opinion. The season is lost anyway, so even if Dejesus helps the Cubs win 5-10 more games between now and the end over his replacement, it wouldn't matter. So save $2.5 million and gain a prospect. No brainer.

I like that this administration doesn't really care what the fans or press think about moves like this. Every move should be about getting incrementally better as an organization. The wins will come.

all right...saved money to spend on...umm...uh...maybe someone worth a damn...maybe.

they should have 30+m to spend next year (being conservative)...if they choose to spend it.

What do Jumbotrons go for these days?

about tree fiddy.

Look for the Dodgers to sign him 2014.

fwiw, Cubs and Nats each owed the other team a PTBNL for the Hairston/Pineyro swap...could just end up being cash, but at the moment Cubs are owed 2 prospects from the Nats.

also fwiw, Nats won the claim on DeJesus, so essentially Cubs get a PTBNL out of it, or they could have just given him to Nats and just saved the money. That PTBNL may very well end up being nothing.

yet again, @FacebookCubs is the place to go after any Cubs trade (Facebook comments from Cubs official page, retweeted)

Okay Theo your an idiot

why don't you trade this so call hot GM and go get Sweet Lou and make him GM

I have got to agree that the Cubs should have gotten Ryne Sandberg as Manager and Ernie Banks as batting coach !!!

lou would be an awesome GM...you wouldn't even have to fire him...he'd quit before it became a fan issue.

Patrick [email protected]
Hoyer signals Cubs will try to re-sign DeJesus this winter. Everyone says that after trades, but both sides sound interested in that idea.

nothing ever comes of this usually, but probably wise if Hoyer does not comment about signing players under contract with another team.

I'm not going to tell you what to do with your money, I will be not stepping foot into Murphy's Bleachers again. The thoughts of Beth Murphy make you wonder if they ever clean the taps there-

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-08-17/spor...

Some brilliance from Beth-

"The Cubs have quite the PR machine," Beth Murphy said. "That's why everyone hates Dusty Baker and Sammy Sosa and Steve Stone. There is a whole list of people that (the Cubs) blame for the Cubs' lack of success. But they never internalize it. It's either the day games or whatever"

Who hates Steve Stone? Sosa maybe some. Dusty did that on his own.

"Actually if there wasn't a ballpark there, I think the property values, for the residents, would be higher. "

Dear God.

I hate Steve Stone...great as a Cub announcer, but just a bitter asshole now. But that had nothing on the Cubs.

No one liked Dusty even when Cubs were winning.

here's the link to beginning of article, your links goes to the end of the article

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-08-17/sports/ct-spt-0818-beth-mu...

Rob-thanks for fixing.

She's an idiot though, and part of the parasite mentality around Wrigley.

I put on here a few weeks ago on how Billy the Cub schlub wanted the Ricketts' to hire him because he has a pedo-bear suit and walks around Wrigley.

Wtf?

I honestly don't know how much more of this rooftop-owner shit Ricketts wants to take. He's already said 'thanks for the $500M City Council approval, but I'm not signing any construction contracts until the parasite owners agree to not sue'. So, what are you waiting for Tom? Tell Rahm and Tunney the deadline date.....like September 30th; and if he doesn't get a signed waiver from Beth and her fellow blood suckers then Tunney doesn't have to worry about being up anyone's ass.

Maybe Beth can't remember what Wrigleyville was like in the late 70s before the Tribune bought the team and brought Harry into help market the Cubs, but I do. If you were walking any where west of Southport, Racine or north of Nuts on Clark, it helped if you were in one of the Latino gangs. Yeah.......good luck with those property values you dumbass, Beth.

it's amazing that someone who owns TWO businesses that are basically 100% dependent on the local ballpark for revenue would so brazenly claim the neighborhood would be better off without it; is there a single person in chicago that will read that and not think she is either a liar or an idiot?

steve stone leaving the booth ranks up there with joe carter leaving the booth for me...wait, that's excessively harsh.

...but listening to steve stone in his later cubs announcer years play manager-and-GM about every single thing on the field was tiring.

bob brenley managed to get across his points just fine without sounding like a jerk...though he rode ARam's ass a bit hard. steve stone couldn't get his points across without sounding like a mailroom clerk who couldn't understand why he wasn't the CEO of the company because he's obviously the smartest guy in the building. listening to stone rant on and on about what someone should be doing while ignoring the game on the field in order to show everyone how brilliant he is was driving-nails-into-skull tiring.

...imo.

I miss Brenly on every broadcast I listen to and have never missed Stone.

same...brenly and len had an "odd combo, but works" nerdy baseball fan meets oldschool vet player thing going on...and they both "got" each other's humor enough to riff one setting up the other for jokes/comments/etc.

btw, brenly back in ARZ's booth is weird...even though it's "home" for him...he spends a lot of time at the ARZ training complex when he's "off the clock" and because of it he's very quickly picked up on the ARZ farm system from scouts + what's soon to be in the pipeline.

Agreed. Bob/Len just clicked. Don't know JD/Len ever will.

I lived in Chandler, AZ when the DBacks won in 2001. The 'inside' talk was they won it all in spite of Brenly, not because of his managerial skill. Maybe AZ Phil can confirm or not? Might explain why offers not out there to my knowledge.

Wow, this is a bit too soon, isn't it? Len and Bob were roundly criticized during their first season together. Personally, I think Len and JD are doing fine, and they clearly enjoy bantering with one another.

GEORGE A: Bob Brenly was a breath of fresh air to the D'backs players, because Buck Showalter (the previous manager) was a control freak. But Brenly's in-game managerial acumen was often questioned, and yet the Diamondbacks won in spite of it (at least in 2001). He also had some colorful arguments with umpires, and there were more than a handful he couldn't stand (most notably C. B. Bucknor).  


Otherwise, Brenly was laid-back and basically let the players do whatever they wanted to do, and it worked because he had a veteran team in 2001 that didn't need a lot of supervision. But once the team went young with the so-called "baby backs" in mid-2004, Brenly went bye-bye.  

He was a bit like Lou Piniella circa 2007-10.

Thanks, Phil. I knew there was some story like the vets didn't need him, and with Johnson, Schilling, Gonzalez, Grace, etc., he surely didn't need to do a lot of hand-holding. I remember Showalter wore out his welcome in year 2.......want a difference/change he's made in managing the Orioles.

Showalter wears out his welcome wherever he manages, Yankees, DBacks, Rangers and soon the Orioles. Give it another year at most...

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  • he subscribes to my twitter, he's beyond TCR. #yolo #swag

    crunch 1 min ago view
  • Whoops. Maddon must have been reading TCR (for his daily crunch) and got confused.

    CTSteve 3 min 27 sec ago view
  • kuhl is a righty, not a lefty.

    i think maddon might think kuhl is a lefty, too. i wonder what the reasoning is for baez leading off vs a rightie.

    crunch 44 min 24 sec ago view
  • "trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo."

    that's from my 1st post. there's no suck involved in that. maybe with a few less posts about bullshit that point would have jumped out more.

    crunch 1 hour 31 min ago view
  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 2 hours 36 min ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 3 hours 21 min ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 5 hours 8 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 5 hours 9 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 5 hours 16 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 5 hours 52 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 52 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 55 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 5 hours 58 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 59 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 6 hours 3 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 6 hours 16 min ago view