Sunday Funnies: What ARE they going to do at this year's Winter Meetings?

While not alot of the activity involved our favorite team, I'm dizzy from all the signings and trades that have already happened this winter.
So, just wondering what all the general managers could possibly talk about at the Winter Meetings in Orlando tomorrow...

(Usually, I can give credit for an illustration's idea to someone's comment here, and while that's what happened I couldn't find it. So anyway, whoever did make that comment wondering if the gms would have anything to talk about...thanks!)

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I LOL'd and I thank you for that, sir, because it's snowy as shit where I am and I have been working straight through the past 10 days.

Hi Charlie, it's just starting to come down in Chicago too. Yuck. And thank you.

Hagahah

well-played Tim.

per a completely untrustworthy twitter souce..A's/Cubs have a meeting set-up for tonight

Some talk of Brett Anderson and A's have had prior interest in Schierholtz and Barney...

normally I don't bother with those, but it actually makes some sense, other pieces would certainly be involved, but sounds like a good starting point for talks.

b.anderson for a bench OF (cespedes/crisp/reddick/c.gentry already in the OF) and a possible e.sogard replacement that's not a sure-thing would be interesting.

Why would A's give up Anderson for spare parts?

to be clear, A's at some point in the past may have asked about Schierholtz and Barney, doesn't mean they are asking now

I think Gentry possibly filled any OF depth issues, Barney may have some use to them and Anderson is certainly someone they'd deal to get out of his contract (they are the A's afterall), but no one knows exactly what they're looking for now. But they always have an eye on this season and the following seasons, so I'm sure there's some options out there.

they could probably use starting pitch depth, maybe a swingman like Villanueva or maybe a player that has more option years left than Anderson. Maybe they don't match up at all...

Orioles executive vice president of baseball operations Dan Duquette indicated Sunday that they are comfortable with Ryan Flaherty as the team's second baseman.

comfortable with Ryan Flaherty as the team's second baseman.
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Brian Roberts is available?

yeah, and the O's are trying to bring him back.

the O's have a thing for r.flaherty. he actually took over the job on a daily basis for a while last year, but he didn't step up and lost the role.

the guy can field 2nd adequately (as well as 3rd) and he's got 20HR power. consistent quality contact is his only knock.

I had a thought on Tanaka vis a vis FA spending. Theo appears willing to spend 'FA' money on players like Rizzo, Castro and 25-yr old T-O-R SP like Tanaka. My guess would be to see similar money spent on Baez, Almora, & Bryant as they enter their arbitration years. Until the Cubs are coming off an 88-90 win season, we won't see Ellsbury/Granderson contracts thrown out let alone Cano deals (which was just assinine).

The Cubs are nearing a tipping point with Samardzija, who remains under club control for two more seasons at a time when the franchise is ramping up for 2016 and beyond. Samardzija’s camp confirmed nothing has really changed since last winter, when talks about a long-term extension gained no momentum.

After years of shifting between the bullpen and the rotation and commuting from Triple-A Iowa to Chicago, Samardzija simply wants to let this play out and establish himself as a No. 1 starter before signing a new deal....

The two sides have different definitions of market value. The skyrocketing price of pitching could force a Samardzija trade.

http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cubs-focusing-tanak...

I would like Spellcheck to establish himself, as a consistent #3 starter.....a #1?
Lol....He's not near that yet.

sorry if 3/44, but Levine in this podcast said Cubs could be in on Choo


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/?podcast_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2F...

TIM:

Funny, funny shit!

Again - L. Berry would love this with a sick Cubs twist!

She's from Wisco. Probably a Brewer fan.

 

Roy Halladay to retire.

Domonic Brown for Samardzija sounds perfect :)

Brown for Schierholtz/Samardzija would make some sense as a starting point, obviously Phillies would need to add some prospects of which they have few, not sure if they'd deal Jesse Biddle.

Brown's not due for free agency until after 2017 season.

Can the Phillies Match Up with the Cubs on Samardzija?
http://www.mlbprospectwatch.com/mlb_prospect_watch...

Biddle + Brown for Samardzija would be a helluva deal for Cubs imo, also probably a pipedream.

some folks seem to be freaking about Brown fading in the second half, but at age 25, no reason to freak out too much. #4 prospect in baseball heading into 2011, the path isn't always linear.  BB rate over 10% in the minors, just under 9% in minors and with Bryant and Soler, he'd probably eventually move to left field.

Still a lot of potential in there, major league ready and 4 years of service time and Cubs could use some left-handed power.

Joel [email protected]
Outside execs say Brown's defense enough of a problem, hole in swing that might not get kind SP #Phillies want

Outside execs say (that totally aren't associated with another NL East team)

way to kill my buzz...although as I said, think you'd have to throw in Biddle to make the deal and not sure he's available.

that being said, a pretty consistent 18.4% career K rate isn't indicitive of a huge hole in his swing and seems like he's played long enough that they'd figure it out by now.

d.brown's swing can get sloppy and long...he loves going for outside stuff, especially high.

he couldn't make up his mind whether he was a pull hitter or a reacher in a kinda erratic fashion last season. when he hit a lot of homers up and in the outer part of the zone last may, he spent a few months going back/forth biting at stuff outside the zone trying to replicate may.

his K rate doesn't mean much...quality of contact is in play.

d.brown hit 12 HR in may...and 12 HR in june/july/aug/sept.

his D is rather average.

if they give up even just ninja for brown it's a blown move, imo...i see it more of a brown + others for ninja before a ninja + others for brown.

torre/cox/larussa to HOF via veteran's/expansion committee.

btw, torre was a hell of a player before his managing career.

Bruce [email protected]
Source :The Rays and Dodgers may be matching up on David Price.

Bruce & Ned are buds...

kershaw, greinke, ryu, beckett, haren...billingsley

yeah, okay.

i guess if they happen to shift beckett it could work...seems overkill as hell to add another lefty to the mix, even if it's a good one, though.

this is one hell of a boring 1st day of winter meetings...

tweet there from Witty says Cubs exploring reliever trade market, Storen and Clippard mentioned

Joel [email protected]
Outside execs say Wittenmyer's writing has its problems, hole in head that might not get kind rumors #Cubsfans want.

It would be awesome if there were some rumors of the Cubs looking for something other than RPs.

Another pitcher on the market.

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that the Indians are listening to trade offers for Justin Masterson.

The Indians are aiming to contend in 2014 and Masterson is their ace, but Rosenthal says the thinking in dealing him would be to explore "longer-term options." Masterson is entering his walk year, and the Tribe must not feel good about their chances of locking him up to a long-term extension. Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported earlier this offseason that Masterson was looking for an extension in the five-year, $75 million range.

And this morning...

Buster [email protected]_ESPN
The Phillies have indicated to other teams they are ready and willing to talk about Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels in trades.

Baseball America Rule 5 Preview has lots of Cubs in it.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/rule-5-previ...

That's a few weeks old btw, think it was posted on here when it first came out...not necessarily reflective of what may happen this week. It also has Ha as a left-handed hitter.

Pretty epic animation, Tim. That was almost feature-film length (slight exaggeration).

Skaggs about to be off the table...3-way trade nearing completion.

DBacks: Trumbo & 2 prospects

White Sox: A. Eaton

Angels: Skaggs & H. Santiago

maybe DBacks getting 2 really good prospects to ship for Samardzija, but I doubt it.

Sox got pants'd

unless the sox are giving up the prospects i'd rather than a.eaton over h.santiago...

bats should be big this offseason. next year's FA market is pitching-heavy (pending extensions) and very bats-bare (and should get worse with extensions in the coming season). the OF market is really bare.

hanley ramirez, chase headley, and pablo sandavol are the batting "stars" of the 2015 FA market who aren't going to be 35+ years old...and it's expected that h.ramirez will be off the table pretty soon...and the 35+ year old crowd doesn't contain anyone to be too excited about.

tons of pitching, though.

see what the final deal is, but Santiago's walk rates are pretty worrisome, Eaton looks like a legit lead-off type.

h.kendrick to Sox supposedly in play in this trade...that changes the "who's giving up the prospects" part up a bit.

done deal, kendrick NOT involved.

prospects probably not named until after the rule 5.

wsox getting another player besides eaton.

r.renteria up next after the commercial break on MLB Network live if anyone's close to a TV.

blah blah blah...tremendous challenge...blah blah blah...

renteria has sent a "text" out notifying the kids that they should be willing to sacrifice things outside the game to make their game better...focus, desire, etc...come together and become a family...

has spoken to s.castro...great kid...must continue to have conversations...understands he has to do well...

almora/soler/bryant excites him...organization as a whole excites...

likes the foundation of the rotation...talked about how the bullpen needs building...

d.barney is "a solid baseball player" who's "capable of turning it around"..."he needs to know we believe in him."

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on whole it seems like renteria's main focus is baby sitting kids making sure they know they're there to play the game and expected to be ready and able to perform at the best of their ability.

deal was as I mentioned

DBacks get Trumbo, and 2 PTBNL's...one each from Angels and White Sox to be finalized after Rule 5, one may be A.J Schugel from Angels

White Sox get Eaton

Angels get Skaggs and Santiago

rockies get b.anderson for d.pomeranz and c.jensen

poor Anderson going to Mile High. Damn I wanted him in Cub Blue . . .

Brett Anderson and cash to Rockies for Drew Pomeranz and Chris Jensen.

"FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reports that the Cubs, Pirates, Royals and Braves have showed interest in Jason Hammel."

good stuff, poor results (so far)...he's one of those guys that should be doing better than he is given the velocity + variety of pitches that comes out of his arm.

he's already 31 (as of a few months ago), though, and people have been waiting for that turn-around for a while.

"two unidentified NL teams" in on Kemp trade talks.
wp.me/p2reWi-3NT

Prediction: Mets are one, obviously. I just can't imagine who the other one is if not the Cubs. The only other team that makes sense from need and financials is San Francisco, but I simply do not think that can happen.

i can't imagine the cubs would be in on it...unless for some reason the LAD want ninja...which makes as little sense as all the other SP they've been rumored to be looking at because they have a full house of pitching already (kershaw, greinke, ryu, beckett, haren).

vogelbomb will probably be a trade chip for the cubs eventually and would be attractive to almost any team out there who doesn't have a long-term 1st/DH solution. he will probably come in handy one day in a trade, if not this offseason. the cubs can also play fast/loose with some of their 3rd base prospects since they're flush with them, though bryant is almost assuredly going no where out of that group.

kemp's interesting...can play all 3 OF positions so he's got flexibility. he's had an injured shoulder nagging him for years, but it's his non-throwing arm. he's got a good enough arm to play RF should a situation dictate him playing there rather than CF (aka, almora).

that said...i dunno if the cubs have what it takes to get it done...or what the dodgers would even want. it's hard to guage what kemp's worth, especially without knowing how much (if any) money the LAD is willing to chip in to lower his contract value and get something done.

"CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Cubs' brass will have a meeting with Jeff Samardzija's agents on Wednesday.

Heyman says an offer "isn't necessarily expected," and an extension is "unlikely anyway.""

Sahadev [email protected]
One source tells me Samardzija will get moved soon. Another says nothing doing. Cubs official, "Yeah, both those sound about right."

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  • If it was 2006 Hendry would be there w a Bible and a contract
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/77...

    jacos 2 hours 26 min ago view
  • he subscribes to my twitter, he's beyond TCR. #yolo #swag

    crunch 3 hours 4 min ago view
  • Whoops. Maddon must have been reading TCR (for his daily crunch) and got confused.

    CTSteve 3 hours 6 min ago view
  • kuhl is a righty, not a lefty.

    i think maddon might think kuhl is a lefty, too. i wonder what the reasoning is for baez leading off vs a rightie.

    crunch 3 hours 47 min ago view
  • "trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo."

    that's from my 1st post. there's no suck involved in that. maybe with a few less posts about bullshit that point would have jumped out more.

    crunch 4 hours 35 min ago view
  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 5 hours 39 min ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 6 hours 25 min ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 8 hours 12 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 8 hours 12 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 8 hours 19 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 8 hours 55 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 8 hours 56 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 8 hours 59 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 9 hours 2 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 2 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 9 hours 7 min ago view