Tribune Shows How Not To Write an Online Poll

The latest article from Phil Rogers also discusses the Cubs interest in Mark Teahen. I still can't fathom why the Cubs would be interested in a player with a 98 and 91 OPS+ the last two years. Rogers suggests that Felix Pie for Teahen would get the deal done or Mike Fontenot and Ronny Cedeno. I suggest that Phil Rogers finds a new profession and the Cubs actually acquire someone who might help the team.

The best part of the article though is the poll at the bottom of the page.

Retards.

 

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This could be a buy low/sell high type of thing. Teahen was pretty darn good in 2006. He sucked in 2007 and 2008. Maybe Lou and Gerald Perry think they can turn him around. I wouldn't give up Felix Pie for him however.

And if they do get Teahen, there would figure to be money leftover for a bigger ticket item to play RF.

Am I the only one surprised that we haven't heard Bobby Abreu's name mentioned more prominently in relation to the Cubs? He's a .300 career hitter with power, speed and walks. He had a 20-20 season at the age of 34. Is there an assumption that he will re-sign with the Yankees?

I can't vouch for his defense, but the Cubs were No. 1 in the NL in defensive effeciency last year. His declining stolen base percentage worries me.

On the other hand, he's spent pretty much his entire career in Philly and N.Y. and appears to have survived it relatively sane, so he should be able to handle the pressure cooker here.

Abreu's career postseason numbers: 303/378/455

i'm actually a little surprised we're not hearing about ken griffey jr.

he could be had relatively cheap vs. his upside and he's not expecting anything longterm last i heard.

i wouldn't be doing cartwheels if the guy came on board or anything, but he is cf/rf capable and could probably be talked into an incentive laden 1 year deal...

Sullivan's latest

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs...

Peavy still possible, otherwise Johnson still possible

payroll will go up slightly in '09

Have asked about Furcal

"I think [their interest] will go according to how some things play out," agent Paul Kinzer said. "Jim still likes Rafael, but I know they have other needs to fill."

Get Adam Dunn!

What?

No?

lol... I just read the post below. It wouldn't be the off season without Adam Dunn's name coming up.

hahah

Hendry and Royals GM Dayton Moore are both denying that any talks have taken place regarding Teahen (or David DeJesus). Teahen and his agent both say they are unaware of any trade talks with the Cubs.

I'm with Crunch on the possibility of signing Ken Griffey Jr. He could probably be signed cheaply, would probably accept a one (or two) year deal, and can play both RF and CF. I wouldn't be overly excited about him, but I would be more excited about him than Teahen, DeJesus, Adam Dunn, or Milton Bradley.

Um, Griffey does not belong in CF anymore. I'm confident that Fukudome can play a better CF than Griffey, at this point.

But he'd be an upside bat if you could get him on a bargain deal to play some RF and bat in the middle of the order.

Edit: Rethinking, it would have to be a real bargain. He hasn't put up an intimidating OPS+ since 2005, hasn't slugged over .500 since 2005, and his batting average seems to be on the decline. OBP is OK, but nothing amazing.

Junior is going to be playing RF for State Dept softball team next year-

http://www.theolympian.com/sports/story/666910.html

Yea Rob-Who thinks we should sign Jake Peavy? Sure-that way we don't have to give up any players! What a complete dumb ass. And this is his full time job?

Random thoughts:

The more I look at our staff the more I think that Harden may be the more who gets traded...

Milton Bradley is a good choice for rightfield.

If we gave up Theriot, Pie and Marshall thats an "up the middle" and low cost solution and the Padres wouldn't do that? That of course, would make signing Furcal a priority...

Griffey/DeRosa platoon in right doesn't seem too bad.

I would think the Rockies would like Marquis-lot of ground balls...

I think we need another lefty in the pen...

 to be fair to Phil Rogers, I doubt he actually wrote the poll...that's probably the intellectually challenged interns.

Thanks guys for the Rogers link. However, I just can't read the any anymore. I'd rather read the one-page sports "section" of my kid's high-school paper than Phil Rogers.

On another note: ARE TICKET PRICES GOING UP? Anyone hear?

I heard they were, can't remember source.

Lou wants one more vet for bullpen"pretty young there"

Lou want Lefthanded hitter and "athletic" players
Cubs "too right handed, two power oriented, not quick"

On Dempster's "not prepare" statement-

Cubs did not hit in playoffs.
Worried about it because they did not hit Dodgers during season.

"This team was prepared"

Not sure what happen to Fuku, general thoughts from Japanese scouts thinks injury from year before, travel, new team he was not in shape "core wise".
Feels he will rebound this year, with "American training."

Likes that expectations have changed for Cubs.
Feels they have good team, blaming media "for heat" on "these kids" to win because of 100 years.

~end transmission~
Welcome to Chicago, Lou.

Do players and coaches still not know the hellstorm they are entering when they come to the Cubs now?

Did Scott Eyre leave a copy of his American Training Guide behind for Kosuke?

No, but I think he's doing pilates with Daryl Ward.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6120...

Valverde and Wigginton possibly on the trading block

Hopefully Valverde goes to the AL.

Ken Griffey??? Seriously?

.249/.353/.424, 18HR, 71 RBI....he cannot play CF anymore, and is
39 years old on Friday. He made $8.2 million last year. He is not a bargain, and is clearly not nearly the player he was even 3 seasons ago.

Milton Bradley in RF. He had a nice season for Texas last year..DH'ing in 97 games, playing OF in 20 games. Playing OF only the previous seasons, he played in 61 games in 2007, 96 games in 2006, and 75 games in 2005. He also has a horrible reputation in the clubhouse, and has had several on field incidents.

How the heck is that a good idea to sign him?

im just saying im surprised it's not a more talked about team/organization option.

it has a lot more to do with his likely demands and cost from where i'm coming from handicapping the situation more than it has to do with what i'd like to see in RF/CF.

lefty, ob%, bit of pop left in the bat, athletic, could be had for 1 year w/ incentives or 2 years to "finish out" his likely career.

my personal preference isn't griff or bradley.

Ryno, Adam Dunn should only be mentioned as a joke. We all ready had a Dave Kingman, you know, Dave Kingman. Dunn may crush a ton, but the costs exceed any rewards. This guy does not have the killer instinct of a winner. He can't field for shit. He should be playing football in Europe.His former teammate, Junior, is pretty much a show pony these days. He's luxury item to boost attendance. Let him go back to Seattle where they could use him.
To be honest, if this team really wants to win, Teahen , DeJesus, and Bradley don't fill the needs very well. It would be "Meh" window dressing. I would rather keep Fontenot and Pie, if these three guys are the big choices. Meh.

But what other options do the Cubs have? I'm not saying I really like any of the names being bandied about, but LH hitting RFers is maybe the most in-demand, least in-supply quantity in baseball.

That poll sort of reminds me of Rob's job list from High Fidelity.

Ahh yes lets spend mega dollars on a multi year deal on Milton Bradley who played all of 20 games in the OF last year and still managed to find the DL. Last i checked we are an NL team, we don't have a DH.

Not to mention lets spend all that money on a guy whose career high in HR's and RBI is 22 and 77.

Soriano was a model of health coming over and look what has happened to his legs early in the year playing in the cold? But "Iron" Milton Bradley will be able to handle it. Mmmmm yeah sure. Can't wait for us to blow 30-40 million to watch Bradley retire on the DL.

Plus he was on his best behavior so he can get a multi year deal. And his best behavior was trying to jump an announcer. I can't wait to see what a "I got nothing to lose" Milton Bradley can do with a nice comfy 3-4 year deal.

Too much money for a guy who has done nothing on the field and has pissed off nearly every organization he has been a part of. Christ the same people giving high fives to Kerry Wood for smashing Sosa's boom box now want to turn into hypocrites and welcome Milton Bradley aboard with hugs and kisses.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2008/11...

There is an expectation that the Cubs will try to trade Marquis and the $9.875 million they owe him for 2009.

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/11/cubs_...

You know how Padres GM Kevin Towers says he's still taking to the Cubs about a possible deal for Jake Peavy? Well, a Cubs source told MLB.com on Wednesday that those talks have ended. The Cubs could either sign Ryan Dempster or add Peavy in a trade, but can't afford both

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/12871...

(On Dempster's deal)...The deal, which could grow in value to more than $60 million through incentives and escalator clauses,

also includes a rundown of potential targets for the rest of the offseason...

19 of 21 picked Dempster to the Cubs...3 of us, including myself, had him at 15 confidence.

good job...low turnout though this year, last couple were in the 40-50 range.

Is it possilbe to see the list?

what's it worth to you?

requires me to type it all out somewhere, so not any time soon...

 

lazy bastard.

:-)

Just copy and paste!

http://blogs.suntimes.com/cubs/2008/11/hot_stove_r...

Dunn and Abreu too expensive, Giles name never came up between Cubs and Padres

Teahen really not of that much interest

yes on Furcal or Ibanez if they can afford it, which is unlikely

Roberts is too much of a hassle

The bottom line, in the immediate wake of the Dempster signing, according to multiple insiders, is that the Cubs are only now turning their full attention and energies to the many potential ways they can address their left-handed hitting needs.

As of this morning, their target list was fluid and filled with variables and contingencies with no clear-cut priority order. I.e., if they can trade for Player A, does that leave enough stock to trade for Player B if he becomes available? Or enough money for Free Agent C? Would a fallback combination of Player D and E fit the short-term payroll better while providing enough options to still improve the lineup?.

Or, for example, can the Cubs move Jason Marquis by picking up a portion of his salary ($9.875 for 2009) to free up more payroll to acquire a free agent they covet? Would they have to shed the one before adding the other? Are there other multi-player - or even multi-team - possibilities that could send enough contract each way to get the Cubs what they want without giving up other essentials?

I believe you have to keep Marquis around to eat innings especially if you have Harden.

I don't...I think we have enough in Marshall, Hill, Gaudin, Atkins, Wells, Guzman, Samardzija and the inevitable veteran-on-the-cheap they sign to cover the injuries.

some of those guys are going to the pen, but at least Marshall and Gaudin showed they're more than capable as starters. Obviously, they can't count on Hill, but he'll be in the mix. Samardzija and Guzman are big upside guys.

How many teams have 10-11 guys that could start?

 

Are they obligated to start said "veteran-on-the-cheap" if they sign one? I'm thinking back to when they acquired Trachsel... which went over like a lead balloon. Yet they kept starting him over and over... it was kind of annoying.

Trachsel started 4 games in 2007, then I think they sent him home.

Cubs are keen on a Wade Miller or Jon Lieber or Glendon Rusch for spring training competition. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I object to Marquis pitching out of the bullpen, it sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

Start him as your #5 starter and be thankful for the 500 WPct out of the #5 slot. We need to get over Marquis being crappy. #5 pitchers are supposed to be crappy. If he were good he wouldn't be a #5 pitcher.

Ryno's off season check list:

__ Get Peavy. Give up your firstborn son if you have to. Shark? Who cares... trade him. Whatever, man.

__ Get a B-list celebrity at SS. Move Theriot to the bench.

__ Get a B-list CF (left-handed) and close the books on '08. I really liked the talk about David DeJesus. It's no secret I have a man-crush on him.

__ Do some heavy drinking between now and pitchers-catchers. I mean "possible liver damage" drinking.

I don't know, man, I found the '08 season incredibly debilitating. Probably because (and this is totally my fault) I was almost sure they were going to the series this year. I had pretty much built it up as a foregone conclusion.

And they just rolled over... blech.

"Get a B-list celebrity at SS"

Pam Anderson?

...try D-List.

Seriously, I didn't mean that as a pun. I just meant that she sucks. Damn.

Joe-
got a few puns there.

Yeah, that was the 'damn' part. Truthfully, I meant zero puns, but decided to keep them all in for posterity.

I love her more than you can ever imagine.

She is the first in the Chad's Holy Trinity:

1. Pam Anderson
2. Anna Nicole Smith
3. Jenny McCarthy

They will always be remembered for how they looked between 1990 and 1995.

And that is the inaugural class in the Chad Hall of Fame. No coincidence. There have been more added since then.

Sadly Chad, your taste in women doesn't intersect with mine.

1. Pam Anderson (dumb)
2. Anna Nicole Smith (truly stupid)
3. Jenny McCarthy ("She is also an avid Chicago White Sox fan" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_McCarthy)

Ah, well -- viva la difference.

Ditto on all that.

Yeah, sure. If the 1995 versions of any of those women tried to pick you up, you'd turn them down.

I was 15, if Bea Arthur had tried to pick me up, I'd have gone for it.

You mean like pick you up over her head?

I weighed about 100 lbs...so, yeah, if she wanted to.

I always dreamed of getting a hummer from Carol Channing.

Hello Dolly!

I loved me some Charo. Hoochie Coochie!

I'm saying that if I was to go out with one of them (like on a 3 hour date), I'd probably be looking at my watch before the evening was through. Yawn. Or else say, "Look, this talking thing isn't working. Can we just fuck and get it over with?"

ditto.

i'm a smart person. i'm not brilliant, but i'm yet to meet a pair of boobs i'd put up with longterm stupidity/ignorance/helplessness from.

there's plenty of hot and smart women out there that i don't have to put up with it, thankfully.

So, we can derive from this list that Chad likes the fake ta-ta's.

no.

I like all ta-tas. Real and fake. i also like hot woman. Those happen to have fake ta-tas. That is a coincidence.

However, recent hall of fame inductee Shannon Tweed has fake ta-tas too.

Count me in the camp that thinks it's stupid to trade a bunch of useful pieces (Theriot, Marshall, Pie, whoever else) for guys like Teahen or DeJesus who are just marginal upgrades over what we could have in house. I also think signing Bradley to anything more than a 1 year, incentive-laden deal is pretty dumb.

This team won 97 games last year, and adding one LH bat in the middle of the order wasn't going to make a damn bit of difference in that series versus the Dodgers. The Cubs were good enough all year to be the best team in the NL, and they happened to play 3 shitty games in a row when it really mattered. If they played that series 10 times, the Cubs would have probably won 5-6 times. I doubt adding a guy like Bradley drastically increases those odds.

You know what mattered a lot more? Dempster walking a million guys, Harden throwing 88 mph, and shitty defense. Milton Bradley can't help the first two, and he makes the last one even worse.

When did Bradley become a shitty fielder? Is it just guilt by association? The reverse gold glove effect?

shitty is strong, but he's not the guy he used to be...including his throwing arm....which isn't a huge positive. he's had a pretty eventful 4+ years with his body and it's been showing.

still, he's got "enough" arm and legs to play RF even if his CF days are probably on the decline.

That's pretty much my opinion of him. Not 1988 Andre Dawson, but he's not going to embarass himself out there.

Shitty may be a bit harsh, but compared to Fukudome he's a defensive downgrade. The fact that he only played 20 games in the outfield last year is a major red flag as well.

He was coming off of ACL surgery, and the plan was to use him primarily at first base during the year. Joe Mauer played DH last year, therefore he is a bad defensive player.

Mauer was a DH four times in '08.

53 times in five years.

The sky isn't really blue, it's just an illusion caused by reflacted light through water vapor.

How about a list of your top three non-fake-ta-ta's babes, just so we can judge for ourselves.

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