Dusty Baker—Doing It for the Kids

According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, Dusty Baker may juggle the Red Legs' pitching rotation heading into next week's visit to Wrigley Field.

The Reds have an off-day Monday, which would normally cause them to skip fifth starter Josh Fogg's turn. But Baker is considering having Fogg take his turn Wednesay, following Aaron Harang on Tuesday, which would have the effect of giving Baker's two young, stud pitchers--Edinson Volquez and Johnny Cueto--an extra day's rest.

"We might try to reconfigure to do that," Baker said. "It's not going
to hurt Cueto and Volquez to lighten their load early to keep them
strong late. They're going to be making 10, 11 more starts minimum -
more if we get to the playoffs - than they've ever thrown."

(Insert your own ironic interpretation here.)

On a related note, this headline from The Onion sports section:

Dusty Baker On Rookie Ace: 'Mwahahahahaaaaa'

____________________________

If you liked this article, consider supporting us during TCR's April Pledge Drive.

Comments

On a completely unrelated note, is it wrong for me to be amused by this?

"Tampa Police arrested Tampa Bay Rays pitcher Al Reyes early this morning, saying the reliever was drunk and disruptive after falling down, picking a fight and spitting blood at the patrons of a popular Hyde Park night spot...the officer tased Reyes, knocking him to the bar floor. Ignoring police commands to stay down, authorities said Reyes got up and was Tased a second time."

http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/2008/04/reyes-slugg...

No, not wrong at all.
Relief pitcher tased once = funny.
Relief pitcher tased twice = hilarious.
The "spitting blood at patrons" part is just a comic bonus.

I thought so. Thanks for the clarification.

DON'T TASE ME BRO!!!

And that calls for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0KmjqabDUU

Not a rick-roll.

Sorry if 3/44, but the Twins sent over Doug Deeds as the PTBN in the Monroe trade.

.291 career hitter who hit .243 last season in AAA.

So much for getting Lahey back in return.

http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/...

The best part of that link is the first comment, from a Twins fan:

"cant we just give them monroe back?"

And another Twinkie fan gives a makeshift scouting report on Mr. Deeds...

"Anyway, I liked Deeds. He had a very good 2005 season at AA and then had to repeat the level. He does a little of everything without doing anything great. Hits for OK average, with decent on-base skills and some power. Plays a couple of positions (RF/1B) adequately. This is fair return for the PTBNL."

Does anybody else think the Cubs lost a lot of value in getting mediocre-to-awful players last year?

Michael Barrett to SD for Rob Bowen
Rob Bowen and Blevins to Oakland for Kendall

Scott Moore and Rocky Cherry to Baltimore for Steve Trachsel

Clay Rapada (PTBNL) to Detroit for Craig Monroe

Getting Lahey back for Monroe would've been nice to offset some of that young talent we lost.

Rapada and Blevins both appear to be better lefty relievers than we have in the system right now, Scott Moore would've been nice depth waiting in AAA or could've been packaged for something valuable, and Rob Bowen turned out to be a lot better than he played while in Chicago.

While Bowen put up a .065/.097/.167 line for the Cubs in 31 ABs, he went on to Oakland to hit .279/.415/.442. While with the Padres he had hit .268/.371/.439. Meanwhile, Kendall hit .270/.362/.356 for the Cubs while playing comparable defense (not bad, actually). However, a combination of Bowen and Soto for in the time that Kendall was playing would've likely proved MUCH more productive than Kendall and wouldn't have required us to pay much salary or to give up Blevins.

What about Monroe? He hit .204/.291/.347 in 49 ABs for the Cubs. I don't care what side of the plate you bat from, that is terrible, and it's nothing that Pie and Fuld couldn't have done while also playing significantly better defense. We gave up Clay Rapada for that?

Moving on to Trachsel. In 4 total games with the Cubs, Trachsel won one game and lost three while posting an ERA of 8.31. He took Marshall's rotation spot, who had half the ERA. In fact, I'd be willing to bet Cherry could've posted an ERA under 8 in 4 starts. Meanwhile, Moore is providing left-handed pop off the bench for the Orioles and has played three infield positions. The guy doesn't have a ton of value, and neither does Cherry, but Trachsel appears to me actually have had negative value.

Oh, and Trachsel and Monroe failed to make the playoff roster while Kendall was pushed into a backup role.

Last season's in-season trades were not very good, and it looks to me like the reveal a GM who really undervalues his own young players.

By the way, Doug Deeds is an outfielder/first baseman who will turn 26 this June. He's a lefty hitter who has never hit more than 16 homeruns and isn't much of a base stealer. Why didn't Hendry at least hold out until he knew whether the Twins will even get Lahey back?

Kendall hit .270/.362/.356 for the Cubs while playing comparable defense (not bad, actually).

Haha... since when did Kendall play "not bad" defense?

I meant "not bad" in reference to the offensive numbers. Nice catch though (no pun intended?). His defense was actually equally as bad as Bowen's and probably as bad as Barrett's.

Don't forget Paul Bako is tearing up the league also.

Maybe Rapada and/or Blevins turn out to be decent LOOGY's, but overall, the guys we gave up were spare parts, at best, with the exception of Barrett, who had deteriorated here to the point he had to be dumped for anything.

Moore and Cherry aren't likely to be anything special.

As for adding Trachsel and Monroe, I wasn't thrilled with the moves but I understand what Hendry was trying to do, add experienced vets for the stretch drive. Sure, in hindsight Pie or Fuld could have put up Monroe's miserable numbers, but Monroe hit 28 hr and 92 rbi the year before, something Pie or Fuld will never do.

I don't think we lost anthing at all. And hindsight is 20/20. Monroe could have went on a roll like Randall Simon did a few years ago, you just never know. But you can't get a spark to put you over the top if you don't try.

We did win the division last year, right? Just checking...

Kendall had one great month for us and when he struggled again in Sept he got benched. Monroe for Rapada? Rapada can't even crack the Tigers awful bullpen right now.  Moore, Renshaw and Cherry for Trax? Yeah, that was dumb, but once again, no one we'll ever miss.

None of the talent we gave up was crucial or will ever be... 

I would think that Lahey was never part of the Monroe discussion or something is happening in the waiver process that we don't know about yet. I believe the deal had to be completed by Opening Day or close to it. Vaguely recall reading that...

Not that this validates my point of view at all, but, coincidentally, the Tigers just recalled Rapada from AAA.

So, it's just me.

When you trade away crap, you're going to get crap back.

Barrett was damaged goods, and Bowen was a short term band-aid. Kendall at least was a plausable starting catcher, and if he played in Chicago last year like he is playing in Milwaukee so far this year this would be a very different conversation.

And don't forget, the Cubs also got a First Round draft pick out of that deal.

Monroe was a gamble to have a little extra pop off the bench during a playoff chase and have a righty who could play CF - much like the role that Reed Johnson is playing. The cost was a marginal pitching prospect. Getting anyone back in a second trade was just an extra.

The Trachsel move was just kind of stupid, but more because it moved Marshall out of the rotation than because a couple of very marginal players were lost.

They're going to be making 10, 11 more starts minimum - more if we get to the playoffs - than they've ever thrown

er, Dusty,
Cueto made 28 starts last year, Volquez made 29

Their arms are gonna fall off!!

Dusty doesn't believe in looking at numbers, especially not before speaking to the press. I'm not sure if that's not old-school enough for him or if it is too small ball...

Did Dusty have Darren sitting in his lap for protection, as he did for press conferences after particularly ugly Cubs games?

Doesn't particularly affect us, but this story is funny...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=334165...

I'm not particularly versed in voodoo ritualism, but wouldn't it be more effective to enshrine the shirt in the foundation of the Yankee's clubhouse?

still 50-60% chance of showers and T-storms tonight...

With an off-day Monday wouldn't hurt out starting staff much if we had to play a double-header this weekend.

Dude,

with all the innings our pen has had to put in due to the extra innings games, a double header is exactly what the Cubs DON'T need.

they didn't go through too many yesterday and they'd get Friday and Monday off...doesn't seem too worrisome to me.

I would love to contribute to the web site, but I'm old school and do not put my credit card on the internet. Is there any other way to make a donation.

I would love to contribute to the web site, but I'm old school and do
not put my credit card on the internet. Is there any other way to make
a donation.

Drop me an email and we can figure out something.

http://www.thecubreporter.com/user/2/contact

 

Brilliant.

Funny!!

Oops, gotta go my mom is calling me upstairs.

Shoot, me too. Johann's mom is calling me upstairs.

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read. Thanks for posting the link!

Those guys are in actuality writers for TV shows out in LA - wonder which ones, since they put out some funny stuff.

one of them writes for "The Office" i know...

That makes sense - same sensibility. I was wondering about "30 Rock" as well - maybe "Family Guy?"

So when are we planning on realizing that Marquis stinks and Leiber is a far better option as a starter...I know we have won so far this year...but our starting pitching looks like its going to be our weak link.

Recent comments

Subscribe to Recent comments
The first 600 characters of the last 16 comments, click "View" to see rest of comment.
  • it took you 4 posts to get to this?

    have you checked the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector?

    #droppingknowledge #savinglives

    crunch 19 min 9 sec ago view
  • Fwiw, Billy Hamilton's actual WAR numbers that relate to the ones that I posted for Mike Trout are:

    • 2014: 2.5
    • 2015: 1.0
    • 2016: 2.6

    But by all means #crunchsplain on the stupidity of WAR while exaggerating your points. I can't wait to read more.

    Rob G. 24 min 27 sec ago view
  • jacos 24 min 36 sec ago view
  • *stroking intensifies*

    crunch 28 min 5 sec ago view
  • #crunchsplaining

    Thanks for the awesome give and take today and for the 535 words you spilled filling in all the gaps that I woefully neglected. We're all a little wiser and better for it. I look forward to your play-by-play summary later in the comments.

    Rob G. 34 min 34 sec ago view
  • it was about a post comparing players based on WAR...and comparing WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...a post that you made...and i made a comment...that talked about D weighting of WAR...and comparinging WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...etc etc...

    hell, we didn't even get in deep. i didn't even involve UZR or FIP versions and their strengths/weaknesses...or position mandated "handicapping" in points...etc.

    let's not talk about that...cool, fine, awesome. context sucks. san dimas highschool football rules.

    *shrug*

    crunch 42 min 29 sec ago view
  • Ha

    jacos 58 min 7 sec ago view
  • Thanks for shining a light on this very important topic and steering it away from the frivolity that was the awesomenes of Mike Trout, but moreso on the foolishness of WAR as a metric to judge the value of center fielders. We're all a little wiser now and your contributions are invaluable to this community and to America's pastime. God Bless!

    Rob G. 1 hour 20 min ago view
  • so...what's chan-yong lim up to these days?

    http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1088746-korean-le...

    oh...

    crunch 2 hours 45 min ago view
  • yes, those hamilton WAR numbers are very reasonable. i'm on your side now based on that biting commentary and reasoning of why he's a 3.5-ish WAR player over a 600 PA season.

    those numbers are obviously well deserved and worthy of no scrutiny...none at all. no issue.

    CF D is rarer than a jon lester pickoff at 2nd...totally irreplaceable...no way in hell there's good D, low/no-hitting CF's in anyone's system that could do what hamilton is doing. guys like this don't exist...you get like, 2-3 at any given time in history.

    crunch 3 hours 5 min ago view
  • Please do not discuss War here. I think the Cub Reporter should be politics free.

    But yes, whether you support War or Peace...Mike Trout is ridiculously consistent and good.

    blockhead25 5 hours 23 min ago view
  • ^^^#WARTruther

    Rob G. 5 hours 35 min ago view
  • "According to FOX Sports' Jon Morosi, Tim Tebow's baseball workout Tuesday in Los Angeles will be attended by scouts from "roughly half" of the 30 major league teams."

    "One scout told ESPN.com last week that Tebow's swing is so long it might "take out the front row." That's not a good thing."

    crunch 8 hours 6 min ago view
  • MyrtleBeachPelicans [email protected]

    The #MBpelicans and @Cubs have extended their PDC through 2020!
    ----
    Carolina League getting 2 new teams too.

    QuietMan 8 hours 25 min ago view
  • CF WAR is ridiculous...billy hamilton is pulling a 3.0 WAR somehow...and managed a 2.0 WAR last year (even though he missed a month of the season)...and a 3.7 WAR in 2014.

    yeah, a lot depends on how one is doing relative to others at a given position, but WAR is common used (right or wrong) as a blanket comparing all kinds of players.

    trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo.

    crunch 8 hours 31 min ago view
  • Rob G. 9 hours 4 min ago view