Game 26 Thread / Brewers @ Cubs (1 of 3)
|SP||Ben Sheets||SP||Jason Marquis|
|3-0, 0.96, 24 K, 4 BB||1-0, 3.47, 15 K, 9 BB|
|2B||Rickie Weeks||LF||Reed Johnson|
|CF||Mike Cameron||SS||Ryan Theriot|
|LF||Ryan Braun||1B||Derrek Lee|
|1B||*Prince Fielder||3B||Aramis Ramirez|
|RF||Corey Hart||RF||*Kosuke Fukudome|
|3B||Bill Hall||2B||Mark DeRosa|
|SS||JJ Hardy||C||Geovany Soto|
|P||Ben Sheets||CF||*Felix Pie|
|C||Jason Kendall||P||*Jason Marquis|
No, you're not imagining things--this is the Brewers' second visit to Wrigley Field in the season's first month while the Cubs have yet to visit Milwaukee and won't do so until after the All-Star break.
While the Cubs (16-9) were losing two of three on the road to the Nationals and scoring 10 runs this past weekend, the Brewers (14-11) were dropping two of three at home to the Marlins and scoring six runs. The Brewers, who led the NL in batting with RISP (.303) going into the series, went just 1-for-26 against the Marlins in those same situations.
The Milwaukees expect a boost tonight (no drug reference intended) from centerfielder Mike Cameron, who will be making his '08 debut after serving a 25-game suspension for taking a banned amphetamine. Cameron, you may recall, played for Lou Piniella with the Mariners from 2000 through 2002, and the two were involved in the M's Divisional Series sweep over the White Sox in 2000, in which this semi-famous play occurred:
Cameron was on first base, and Piniella (came out of the dugout and) went to the bag to talk to him.
White Sox closer Keith Foulke seemed to get rattled, and Edgar Martinez
hit a go-ahead homer to lead the Mariners to a three-game sweep.
Piniella later said he told Cameron to buy Cisco stock.
Sheets, meanwhile, is making his first appearance in 11 days, since departing a start against the Reds mid-game because of "tightness in his right triceps muscle." Big Ben leads NL pitchers with a ridiculous 0.64 WHIP and a batting average against of .146. Back on Opening Day, Sheets held the Cubs scoreless over 6 1/3 IP, allowing but two hits.
He also needs just 10 strikeouts to pass Teddy Higuera and become the Brewers' all-time strikeout leader, which should sure make for some compelling television.
In 48 career at-bats against the Milwaukee ace, Derrek Lee has 5 HR and a .681 slugging percentage, which makes a nice counter-balance to Aramis Ramirez's .192 batting average and 1 career HR in 58 at-bats against Sheets.
Jason Marquis is coming off his second Quality Start in a row, a 7-inning ND last Thursday at Colorado (8 hits, 2 ER, 2 BB).
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Eloy Jimenez and Jeimer Candelario named to Futures Game...
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Now pitching for the Cincinnati Reds:
Sorry if I made it sound like a Schwarber for Sale straight up deal was reasonable, obviously Cubs would need to give up more than that. You don't trade Sale unless you're rebuilding and if you're rebuilding you want more than one piece. Easily 3-4 pieces with Schwarber being the main one...but that type of an ace arm or All-star talent with a few years of control is the type of return the Cubs should look for if they move Schwarber. I don't think they'll move him until he's healthy though. TheJedi are pretty good at maximizing trade value.
I think you're very much overvaluing Schwarber if you think he can fetch Sale by himself. An unproven rookie with demonstrable offensive flaws he hasn't had the chance to show he can overcome and with no defensive upside will never fetch an ace of the quality of Sale in today's market where pitchers are fetching insane prices, especially with Sale's team friendly contract. You'd for sure need to throw in a pitching prospect in return at least.
best relievers in baseball tend to not be the best relievers for very long though...
also, when you start just trading away guys for marginal benefits, that window will shrink. The window is easily through 2021, just have to look how long Rizzo is signed for and how long they have rights to Bryant, Russell and so on down the line.
Can't say I'm too worried about the SP, they've done nothing but land guys on the cheap and on the expensive since they've arrived. TheJedi will figure that out.
Not sure I agree with this logic. The Cubs are one of the best teams in baseball, they have spent heavily on the team over the past couple of seasons, have more hitting prospects than they have places for them to play (and more on the way), a clear weakness in the bullpen, and have a 1.5 year window with Arrieta (to say nothing of the likely declines of Lester and Lackey).
Unless you think (maybe even if you do think) Schwarber is the next coming of Babe Ruth, I would certainly consider trading him if it brought back a couple of the best relief pitchers in baseball.
Miggy was going to sit anyway with Lester starting.
In related news, do any of the Cubs pitchers want to throw to Contreras?
Only Russell and Miggy failed to reach base yesterday. Both sit today.
Trading Schwarber actually makes a lot of sense because his actual position is currently being taken by Anthony Rizzo, unless they vote in the DH this offseason.
Trading him for a reliever is never going to happen though. I don't think you can trade Schwarber unless you get a CF'er for a few years (presume Fowler finds his multi-year deal next offseson) or a couple of high end young starters...or an established starter...a good one like Chris Sale.
I don't see what the Yanks have that the Cubs need.
peter gammons on MLB network pushing the yanks/schwarber angle...says insiders from the yanks say brian cashman highly covets him.
unless that conversation starts with a.miller (2/18m left on contract) i dunno how you even start that conversation given the "not trash, but no stars" state of the yanks minor league system.
they got corner OF'r aaron judge, C gary sanchez, RHP james kaprielian's questionable elbow, RHP domingo acevedo...all interesting, none expected to impact the game like schwarber's power potential.
Zo, Heyward, KB, Riz, Contreras (LF), Baez (SS), Szczur (CF), Ross, Lester
damn. low sample size blah blah whatever, but that slash got sneaky good. 10 hits, 4 walks, 2hr, 1 double through 39 PA...nice
Buddy Ryan takes his place alongside George Allen as the great Bear head coaches who never were.
Well, at least he can still hit: Jake slashing .294/.368/.868. Forget hitting 8th -- he should hit 6th.
Curious to see today's lineup vs. a LHP: Ross needs to catch Lester, Joe likes Javy at 3B when Lester pitches. Heyward with back-to-back good games at the plate, and is actually hitting a little better against LHP (.247/.341) than RHP (.232/.321), although neither is much to write home about. But, tomorrow is an early day game, so some regulars will probably sit either today or tomorrow.
Maybe Willson in LF, KB in RF and Almora in CF? If so, Albert Jr., assume every ball is yours.