NL Central Smackdown : Right Fielders

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I'll save the left fielders for Monday since it's a pretty and talented group. Your right--field warriors after the break...

Player 3-Year Warp-3 Average
3 Year Warp-3 Projection
Rob's Ranking
Kosuke Fukudome N/A 3.37 2
Corey Hart 4.5 (2 years) 5.6 1
Skip Schumaker 1.5 (1 year) 1.43 6
Ryan Ludwick 2.7 (1 year) 1.97 6
Hunter Pence 6.4 (1 year) 5.43 4
Ken Griffey Jr. 4.47 1.77 3
Xavier Nady 2.63 1.93 5


 

 

 

 

 

 


The Justification: I think I sold Hunter Pence short on this one before I looked at the numbers. I just thought he was more useful as a center fielder and a little hacktastic for my tastes. Griffey Jr. probably deserves the top spot as a lifetime achievement award and if you think he can stay healthy, he probably still deserves it. Honestly, any of the top four are probably worth the top spot and when Rick Ankiel gets shifted back here, he'll make it even a little more interesting. But I took Hart for now, a rather successful 2007 campaign and youth on his side. I just didn't know what to expect out of Fukudome, and while the early returns are fantastic, he won't be able to keep his offensive numbers up averaging a homer a month. Nady's had a nice start to the season, but we all know he'll fade and the Cards platoon is just a placeholder until Colby Rasmus is ready and Ankiel gets shifted back.

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Comments

This is very tough; really a close grouping and alot of moving parts.

I ranked as the following:

Fukudome (homer vote, but he is a 4-tool player)
Hart (slow start though)
Nady
Pence (would be higher, except for slow start; based on last year, he could be #1)
Griffey (Fading fast)
Cards (They are hitting great, but I hate platoons)

Tough one for me. I went Fukudome, partly out of homerism, then Pence, Hart, Nady, Cards, and Griffey.

I take Hart over the lot at this point, then Fuku, Pence, Griffey, Nady, Cards. Hart is young and is already a pretty complete hitter, plus I think he handles CF at least as well as Pence and Fuku. Pence has the best chance of being a real superstar, but he also seems most likely to flop due to his hacktastic approach. Fuku gets second based on defense and plate discipline. Griffey would be tops if he weren't such an injury risk and if he weren't so old and more expensive than the rest.

Nady doesn't seem all that valuable any more, but maybe that's just me.

is his lack of power concerning to anyone else? The bill of goods we got when he was signed was that he'd be good for at least 15 and probably 20 homers a year. He's got good gap power but the weight shift in his swing, in my mind, keeps him from putting more power in his swing. Anyway, I hope he starts hitting for a bit more power soon, as we need it out of our #5 hitter.

I'd be more concerned if he wasn't on pace to hit 50+ doubles. I'll take 50 doubles and a .400+ OBP out of my 5th hitter any day, especially when he has DeRosa and Soto hitting behind him.

Yep. Not concerned. There are other ways to win besides Chadball.

Hey! 50 doubles is Chadball through and through!

50 doubles isn't Chadball!

No steroids, no homeruns, no watching the ball exit the park followed by cocky strutting around the bases. No boombox in the locker room annoying everyone else.

I think Fuku is a few hat size short of Chadball.

Sorry pal, but I'm the authority on Chadball. And 50 doubles is Chadball material. Chad likey the slugging percentage. last year when DLee wasn't hitting the ball over the fence but bouncing them off of it, I was totally ok with that. Walks and singles as your offensive set is not Chadball but Mark Grace was.

personally, i didnt expect more than 15-20 homers at best.

however, i do/did expect him to get 40-50 doubles.

i expected him to K 100-120 times and though i knew he'd walk im personally impressed by how many so early.

to make a sloppy comparison...i pretty much expect mark grace in his prime at the plate (with more Ks and a touch more speed).

Vorare: Exactly! Soto hitting behind Fuku is brilliant, and I hope it continues.

Fuku is still adjusting to a lot of pitching he has never seen, and his contact style is unique. He pulls off the ball much more with two strikes on him. He gets into the two-strike situation because he is taking pitches in an attempt to see more (whether that is patience or just feeling out the pitcher, I don't know). The great thing is that he isn't afraid to hit with two strikes, and he's a damn good hitter in that situation. He is Ichiro with more power, and a slightly lower average due to his slower top speed. I see Ichiro leg out a lot of those infield singles which drives his average from the .320-.330 range to the rarefied air he has been privy to the last few seasons.

Identical to Rob's. A year or two ago Jr might have been top of the list, but not now.

I'm reading over other people's votes and I feel I should say it really pained me to vote Corey Hart first. He's a douche.

Me too, though I have nothing against Hart personally, I just can't stand the fact he plays for the Brewers. Is there some more specific reason you call him a "douche"?

wonder what theyre working on with him...

another day and no play.

a trade?

whoops.

He's in there tonite, batting third.

2 for 2 as the DH.

weird...they had Kroeger DH as the DH, now its murton on milb.com

sweet.

Gagne blows a two-run lead in the ninth in Houston to send it into extras. Go 'Stros.

this time a 6-4 lead in HOU. I guess the Brewers closer will be David Riske pretty soon.

A. Soriano lf
R. Theriot ss
D. Lee 1b
K. Fukudome rf
M. DeRosa 3b
G. Soto c
M. Fontenot 2b
R. Johnson cf
J. Marquis p

because with this line-up it makes alot of sense, with Reed's good OBP and Marquis being a solid hitter.

the lineup's full of ob% guys...why let the pitcher move up a slot to replace a far better hitter?

and though i can understand not using cedeno today the guy should get some starting time one day...maybe.

...AND END THIS SORIANO BATTING 1ST CRAP. and stuff...

we got a RBI guy missing (aram) and we got a powerhitter looking to cash in the 7/8/9 hitters.

I think he has more hits today aganist Santana and the NLDS last year then he did his entire Cubs career.

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson failed a sobriety test while operating a 30-foot boat, then resisted arrest before being hit with pepper spray and dragged ashore by officers.

woo.

Well I thought the Bears had a foolproof protocol for this kind of situation...

Why didn't he just dive into the water, dial 911 and tell the police that his boat was stolen?

Jeez.

with Prince trying to get a foul pop-up.

to complete the sweep of the Brew Crew.

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    #baseballtalk

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    Tito 3 hours 25 min ago view
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    billybucks 5 hours 56 min ago view
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    Cubster 6 hours 50 min ago view
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    Rob G. 10 hours 49 min ago view
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    The E-Man 15 hours 55 min ago view
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    Baseball Reference

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