No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
Something to distract from tonight's unpleasantness in Cincinnati:
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports that Doug Melvin has no plans to unseat Eric Gagne as Brewers closer. A quick comparison:
| G | IP |
H |
K |
BB |
ERA | S |
BS |
|
| Kerry Wood | 14 | 15 | 10 | 13 | 3 | 4.80 | 4 | 3 |
| Eric Gagne | 16 | 14.2 | 15 | 17 | 10 | 6.14 | 9 | 5 |
Gagne also has a WHIP of 1.7 and opponents are hitting .382 against him. Wood's numbers are 0.87, .189.
And the Brewers don't have Carlos Marmol as a Plan B.
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Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:23am Permalink
This might be ignorant of me, but I really don't see Gange turning things around much this year, either. Sure his numbers will settle down a little, but this isn't Mariano Rivera having a trademark bad April, this Eric Gange who looks out of shape and not sharp at all.
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:44am Permalink
Gagne = Glendon Rush with goggles
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:54am Permalink
Not to mention the $10MM paycheck.
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:18am Permalink
Speaking of closers, did anyone ever figure out why LaTroy Hawkins sucked? His stuff was always good and his slider had good bite. It was puzzling.
David Weathers can go in and easily get guys out with mediocre 82 MPH sinkers, but LaTroy Hawkins gets lit up on sharp 84 MPH sliders. Location & walks were always a problem, but still...
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:39am Permalink
Maybe LaTroy lost confidence in the slider -- my memory is that he threw mostly 92-94 mph fastballs without great movement or location. Hitters sat on the fastball and eventally hammered it.
Meh...
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:39am Permalink
This is all well and good, except we haven't had many leads to save lately, losing 8 of the last 11.
Come back when there is more sample size with our guys, then we can have something to really compare.
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:42am Permalink
David Weathers: "...David Weathers can go in and easily get guys out..."
Uh, not really. 4.32 ERA 2+ WHIP
Don't think this is "easily out" stuff for a short guy.
Not well liked in Cinci. Sucked here for the most part, too.
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:55am Permalink
Weathers had 45 saves over '06-'07, with a 3.50-ish ERA. That's probably what was being referenced.
If that's the case
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 11:08am Permalink
Why don't you include Gagne's '05/06 stats?
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 11:11am Permalink
Because I was talking about Weathers. The comment was he easily gets guys out, and you disagreed. Not only was my response not about Gagne, neither was your original comment. So why would I reference Gagne?
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 11:22am Permalink
If you are referencing "old stats" (which was not made clear in the comment that Weathers "easily gets guys out..."), and the original post is comparing Wood to Gagne, why not compare Gagne's old stats? David Weathers was not a topic of the lead submission by Cubnut, either. What's the difference?
"Whatever."
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 11:26am Permalink
I was making a guess as to what the Weathers comment was about. It still has nothing to do with Gagne. Sorry you can't see that.
Old Stats are Old Stats
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 11:29am Permalink
Sorry you can't see my point either. You commented on Weathers (where the poster did not say "when"; I brought up old stats of Gagne.
Like I said: "Whatever."
Anyway, perhaps we could discuss something more meaningful, like what day Mark De Rosa breaks out of his slump?
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 11:33am Permalink
No, I see your point. But it's not relevant. (Someone help me out here!??!) I was only commenting on your comment about Weathers. It just so happens that the comment was in a blog post about Gagne. Ryno brought up Weathers; you disagreed with his comment; I used old stats to suggest that maybe that's what he was talking about. End 'o subject.
DeRo will come out of it soon.
Re: No, the Gagne is Not Always Greener
on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 11:36am Permalink
"DeRo will come out of it soon."
I hope so. OF all our "utility starters". He is my favorite, and generally pretty solid.