Game 45 Thread / Cubs @ Astros (1 of 3)

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SP *Ted Lilly SP Brian Moehler
  4-4, 5.33, 50 K, 17 BB, 50.2 IP
1-0, 4.58, 10 K, 4 BB, 17.2 IP
       
LF Alfonso Soriano CF *Michael Bourn
SS Ryan Theriot 2B #Kaz Matsui
1B Derrek Lee SS Miguel Tejada
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B #Lance Berkman
RF *Kosuke Fukudome LF Carlos Lee
C Geovany Soto RF Hunter Pence
CF *Jim Edmonds 3B Ty Wigginton
2B Mark DeRosa C Brad Ausmus
P *Ted Lilly P Brian Moehler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Cubs, winners of eight of ten, all at home, meet the Astros, winners of seven of ten, all on the road.

The contest, marking the Cubs' first visit this season to the former Kenneth Lay Field, will match two of the game's hottest hitters, the Cubs' Soriano, whose average on May 1st was .164 and is now .296, and the Astros' Berkman, who has gone a ridiculous 36-for-66 (.545) with 8 HR and 21 RBI in the course of a 17-game hitting streak. (By comparison, Houston's Hunter Pence, who has gone 23-for-64, .359, while hitting in a mere 16 straight, has been a sluggard.)

Lilly has won three decisions in a row and four of his last five. In his last two outings, against the Padres and Diamondbacks, he whiffed 21 while walking just three.

Moehler joined the Houston rotation about a week-and-a-half ago, replacing the injured Wandy Rodriguez, and threw a pair of five-inning outings, one good, one less good, on the Astros' just-finished West Coast trip. Tonight Moehler will be making his first start against the Cubs since '06 and is 1-0, 3.91 lifetime against our side.

Comments

I think Lou should take a page from Tony's book. put somebody on for Fonzie.

Soriano
Fukudome
Lee
Aram
Soto
Edmonds
DeRosa
Lilly
Theriot

I think hitting Edmonds behind Soto is crazy talk.

Wow, an inside the park home run from Soto and a beautiful over-the-shoulder basket catch from Edmonds. This game has been fun so far...

Zeus is a badass. Carlos Lee looked scared as hell on that breaking ball right after the chin music. Not that I blame him.

marmolaaaaaade
lady marmolaaaaade

all star game!

how about ESPN with this one: gary thorne says "carlos lee 2-7 career vs. marmol"
immediately followed by a graphic that says "lee 1-9 vs. marmol"
good job, guys.

I think they also set a record for most minutes discussing topics not related to the game they were announcing. The 5-minute discussion about eating rice and beans with Orestes Destrade in Puerto Rico and how poor Steve was not invited was particularly stupid.

Why did Lou start Wuertz out there in the 8th? I would have given Eyre a chance against the lefty Bourne.

why does it feel as if wuertz has failed to demonstrate he can be counted on to hold leads...

he's going to be the main reason Marmol's arm falls off.

It was awkward to watch Edmonds do the hop/bump thing with Soriano after the game was over. Nice catch earlier.

Just checking in now--

Why was Lilly pulled after striking out the leadoff hitter in the 6th??

Ted kind of struggled in the 5th. Threw 96 pitches.

I imagine Lou only sent him out there to make Berkman bat right-handed.

.000 Pie 0/4 again tonite, 0/16 since being sent to Iowa.

The Jason Dubois, formerly? an IronPig but back in the Cubs system?, played 1B for Iowa and made two errors. Got a hit though.

And Matt Murton with his 1st dinger of the season last night ... along with his 8th RBI ... which is pretty abysmal for hitting at the 3rd in the lineup for most of his time while down at Iowa.

Pretty terrible umpiring -- Soto's ball was clearly out, and the Astro basestealer was clearly out in the 8th. MLB needs to implement some sort of fitness testing for umps -- it seemed like Joe West blew both plays, in part because he is too damn fat to get into posiiton to see the play properly.

BILLYBUCKS: Just getting home now - and did not see it - BUT, I thought Cowboy Joe West retired after last season ended!!

He was really bad last year and blew TWO HR's of the Cubs - one in particular was Soriano's, I think in Cinci.

I completely concur that MLB has let these arrogant prick umpires screw up for too long.

Unless it's another "Joe West" -- Box Score says he was the 2B ump (as did Len and Bob).

Exactly.

That was his call to make on Soto's HR to left-center. It turned out the 3rd base ump had to make the call from a crappy angle because West couldn't get out there. He also blew the CS call at 2nd.

Watching highlights, now. The Edmonds catch. WOW!

And, he was 1-5. Certainly saved a run, as there was a runner on 1B.

We have been getting some absolutely killer defense in CF this year. Eat it, Jacque Jones!!

You know, a sustained season of .622 would be good for 100 wins. Just sayin'...

/nojinxhere

Hey I just realized I had Soriano/Edmonds/Fukudome in TCR's "What will be the starting outfield for the cubs in 2008" contest back in 2004. What do I win?

Ha!

Excellent...

Wasn't it Joe West who made that call during that Sunday afternoon game at U.S. Cellular Field last year? I forget the particulars, but it caused Hawk Harrelson to have a coronary in the booth, and Ozzie got ejected, so Joe West is alright by me.

I wonder what Pence's sluggard percentage is?

when the nl rookie of the year is catching granted this probally
changes with who is pitching but whaat % of the pitches does
he actually call and what comes from the bench?

also has brad ausmas been catching for 20 years god it seems
that long.

fox out

ascaino up

Ascanio, but yes.

Fox getting injured is no surprised.

I don't know what you guys think, but I like the pick. I have a feeling some people might say Cotts should've been called up, but I was a big fan of Ascanio in Spring Training- he's only 23. By the way, this is the guy we traded Will Ohman for, remember.

roberto novoa...damn, i mean jose ascanio isn't a bad guy.

hard thrower...hopefully has control of his secondary pitch. what's his secondary pitch dujour this year? slider?

in all seriousness...i did/do like the trade...if you're trading for young kids with raw tools a 95+mph fastball is a nice start. even nicer when you dump a little loot off the payroll to obtain the guy.

hill to minor league DL, 15-day...also s.marshall seems to be in line to take someone's rotation slot soon (probably gallagher).

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/spor...

Like the call up for Ascanio, at least he's a young guy with room to improve. The whole Fox episode was kind of weird, be interesting to see if we ever see him again.

Theriot .333 BA/.410 OBP
DeRosa .306 BA/.408 OBP
Cedeno .324 BA/.410 OBP

B. Roberts .274 BA/.355 OBP

Cubs lead the MAJORS in runs scored -- more than any o' them ersatz DH teams, even.

Keep it up, fellows.

and the Cubs lead the major leagues in OBP base-clogging as well.

Clearly our homegrown talent is capable of patience at the plate. Soto leads the team in OBP, Theriot and Cedeno are over .400 right now as you point out, and Fontenot is at .375 which hints that the Cubs system, which traditionally emphasized "hitting" and sneered at OBP, is one reason the Cubs have had a problem with the winning thing.

Joe West is this year's version of Bruce Froemming.

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  • four winds field is awesome. it's crazy how minor league parks have "grown up" since the 80s/90s and that park was one of the late-80s models that showed a low-capacity ballpark could look like you're at something other than a highschool baseball game.

    crunch 45 min 33 sec ago view
  • On another topic....I returned to South Bend last night for the 2nd time this season (still haven't tried either the deep-fried mac & cheese sandwich nor "The Porknado", as the drive home is over an hour and that could get ugly), and was pleasantly surprised to find D. Underwood pitching in a rehab start. He looked good -- although, to be fair, these are low-A hitters -- fastball consistently at 94-95 (if the SB scoreboard is to be believed -- several pitches were clocked in the 30s...) and with good location.

    billybucks 1 hour 53 min ago view
  • he gains nothing, no advantage, no saving of resources, nothing...there is not a cost/benefit tradeoff...him letting the running game go on around him for others to control isn't gaining him an advantage elsewhere. it's putting him at a disadvantage even if it's not cashed in with a run.

    crunch 4 hours 33 min ago view
  • And out of respect for the rest of TCR, I'm done on this. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the other camp, but time to let it go. (Until the next Lester start. I kid.)

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 4 hours 37 min ago view
  • He is putting himself at a disadvanage. But how much of one relative to the rest of his game? He's not Justin Germano -- he's inarguably one of the best SPs in baseball, issue or not. It would be more of thing to discuss ad nauseum if it constantly caused him to give up runs and lose games. But it doesn't.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 4 hours 46 min ago view
  • shouting down my points about lester with "well, it didn't hurt" is like saying it doesn't matter if a guy starts out walking 3 guys every inning as long it's followed by a K and a double play.

    it's like elevating ERA and wins to a high level while ignoring what it took to get there.

    crunch 4 hours 52 min ago view
  • I'm asking how much it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this year. Do you have that answer?

    I legitimately don't recall you answering that quesion, apart from the condescending silliness you just posted. So if you did answer specifically about the impact of Lester's issue, I'd like to re-read it. Thanks.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 5 min ago view
  • if runner = on base and pitcher = j.lester then lead = large

    if lead = large then probability of extra base on following hit > average of mean

    okay, enough of that silliness...

    ...you can read more on the thread i copy/pasted this from the last time you decided you needed to talk to me about me.

    crunch 5 hours 12 min ago view
  • Thank you for your answer.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 16 min ago view
  • bless your heart.

    crunch 5 hours 17 min ago view
  • I don't recall you answering my question about quantifying how it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this season, apart from one guy scoring on a sac fly. Can you direct me to your answer? Thanks.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 21 min ago view
  • Lester's personal catcher has an .809 OPS.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 25 min ago view
  • we already has this asinine discussion. you didn't like the answer. there's already an answer above you can apply about how a guy goes from 1st base to home on a sac fly that included him stealing 3rd while lester watched from the mound. the fact that the cubs bats, 100% independent of that situation, scored some runs invalidates it as an issue to you. i find that stupid. we will not get anywhere with this. you know we will not get anywhere with this...because we already had this asinine discussion.

    #circularlogic

    crunch 5 hours 26 min ago view
  • it's not about SB...it never was.

    jake arrieta being slow to the plate isn't comparable to jon lester not throwing to any base. how the runners read off arrieta isn't anything similar to what a runner is reading off lester.

    maybe arrieta could use a personal catcher solely to control his running game...but i doubt it's that important.

    crunch 5 hours 29 min ago view
  • Can you quantify how this has hurt Lester/the Cubs this season?

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 30 min ago view
  • Is WISCGRAD still around? Here's a project for him or anyone else who would be interested...

    Lester's allowed 22 SBs. How many of those have scored and how many games did the Cubs lose due to them?

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 36 min ago view