Revenge of the Voodoo dolls

Although life is grand after a 7-0 homestand that saw sweeps over the severely injured Dodgers (Furcal, AJones, Garciaparra, LaRoche and 3/44) and the severely injured Rockies (Holiday, Hawpe, Tulowitzki and Barmes), I'm sensing strange karma that may be responsible for some weird happenings that are in the news.

To quote Ricardo Montalban, "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold."

Former Cub, Shawn Estes got his only win so far this season as well as the Padres only win against the Cubs. He was slated to open the upcoming series in San Diego vs the Cubs monday night until he fell going from the clubhouse to the dugout friday in San Francisco, breaking the thumb on his left pitching hand. He will be replaced by Cha Seung Baek a 28 yr old Korean and former Mariner minor leaguer.

So if the Estes news is a bit odd, what do you make of the Mark Prior news?

If you haven't heard, Prior apparently has agreed to have more right shoulder surgery after esteemed Orthopedic Surgeon, Dr. James Andrews diagnosed a tear in Prior's anterior shoulder capsule. This time, the surgery will be done in San Diego at the Scripps Clinic (by Hans and Franz...well actually Padres team physicians, Drs. Heinz Hoenecke and Dr. Jan Fronek). The surgery date will be set when he sees his doctors this monday. Prior started having a return of shoulder pain during his ongoing rehab in extended spring training in Arizona around May 10th and had to shut down his rehab followed by an MRI and a trip to Dr. Andrews about 2 weeks ago.

As you recall, Last April 2007, Prior has an anterior capsular tightening by Dr. Andrews although reports I've seen have varied as to the operative details of that surgery. From an AP story on 4/27/07:

According to a team statement, Andrews performed a debridement of Prior's rotator cuff and repaired labral and capsular injuries in the shoulder.

"It stayed in the arthroscopic stage. But I think he had some touch up work in a lot of places," Hendry said. "But at the same time there didn't seem to be anything so significant that it would require more than the scope. It didn't have to be opened up and have extensive surgery."

If Prior does have a tear in the anterior shoulder capsule, it means the tightening procedure he had back in 2007 has had a tissue failure in an area most likely to be near where it was previously tightened. Things like that happen, but what to do about it gets more complex if it's bad tissue and not looseness of the shoulder that's his problem now.

When Hendry and the Cubs cut ties with Prior, it wasn't as if they hadn't tried to re-sign their first round (2nd pick) draft choice of the 2001 amateur draft. Hendry had two options, one was to offer Prior arbitration which would have amounted to another year of rehabbing for $3-plus million salary for 2008. The other option was to negotiate a new deal that would keep Prior as a Cub for two years but at a discount compared to the 2008 arbitration salary possibilities while he was rehabbing from surgery and a club option for 2009 (if his rehab was reasonably successful). Hendry offered a deal that would have given Prior more money than he ultimately signed for in San Diego (which was $1M). The proposed 2009 club option was based on medical advice that pitchers who underwent the type of surgery Prior had often need 2 years to recover fully. The Cubs had been paying Prior $3.1M in 2004, $3.5M in 2005, $3.65M in 2006 and $3.575 M in 2007. Considering he didn't pitch in 2007 and only pitched 43 futile innings in 2006, Hendry must have been thinking that's alot of green to spend for a pitcher that wasn't able to pitch and probably wouldn't be competitively healthy again until 2009.

Prior apparently was advised he would be better off (financially) as an unrestricted free agent for the 2009 season assuming he showed any semblence of his old form as a starter. It would also be easier to recover in laid back San Diego without the Chicago media to unearth every bit of minutia that happened along that road to recovery. After signing with the Padres, he expected a full recovery and even had predictions he'd join the Padres staff by June 1. Oddly, today's announcement came on that date. It was a calculated risk on his agent's part and it has just turned sour.

So now what?

The Cubs have finally and it appears happily moved on. Having the best record in baseball as of June 1st and knowing that they haven't achieved such early success since 1908 will give the media plenty of fodder for the moment. Without Prior, yet getting strong contributions as closer from a so far so good and healthy Kerry Wood makes a Star Wars, Episode VI ending seem possible. Moving on meant giving Kevin Hart jersey #22. The Cubs don't owe Mark Prior a penny for 2008 (or 2009). The Padres just flushed One Million Dollars down the proverbial toilet. Sure that's peanuts to a ballclub, but it couldn't have happened to a nicer club (so says Lee Smith, Leon Durham and Rick Sutcliffe). Mark Prior is moving on to his second shoulder surgery and what HE gets to expect will not be sorted out until they re-explore his shoulder.

He won't even be the Padres concern come October.

 

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Methinks the Drs. Amos and Andy would have better success with Prior's maladies.

Sucks about Prior. Even if he's not with us anymore I feel for the guy - he was the best in the biz, arguably, in late 03.

On to brighter news - 1st time in 1st in league on June 1 since 08? Lovin' it!!!! Guess I'd better get back to reading Crazy 08 after all.

prior learned the hard way there's a difference between hiding a blister from the medical crew/trainers/coaches and hiding minor foot/shoulder problems.

there's a time to "man up" and a time to get ready to go to work. april isn't the playoffs.

hopefully the cubs learned a lesson, too, about taking a kid's word vs. checking a kid out if they think there might be a medical problem.

at least it's not the cubs' problem.

I read Crazy 08 the past January. Loved the current event anecdotes thrown in to make one appreciate how different the times were.

Here's a Hardball Times interview with the author Cait Murphy

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/crazy-08/

Crazy 08 was full of anecdotal stories of the era particularly Chicago politics/corruption. Had never heard of this famous serial killer near Chicago (LaPorte, IN) but it was included although I don't remember if there was any baseball connection.
Belle Gunness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Gunness

for those two links. I vaguely remember Cait Murphy being interviewed on one of the Chicago radio stations a year ago or so as well, but that interview is really good. I like those historically contextual-type books, so I think I'll like this one if I ever get time to read it.

Was at the game today...

"Sweeep!!! Sweeep!!! Sweeep!!!"

Awesome.

He certainly wasn't much of a teammate to the minor - leaguers while he was on his many rehab stints here. In fact, he came across as a major - league jerkhole. Nothing wrong with that - it's a business after all, but it's hard to feel anything for the guy at this point.

great Star Trek plug with the Klingon proverb...

Belle Gunness was an amateur compared to Elizabeth Bathory, but there's actually currently a film in the works on Gunness' life story and there are no ties to her and the Cubs or baseball in general. She was just a pop culture example to reference the era/time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bathory

No, I just read about Gunness, so I'm up on Chicago Politics, dB. But you're not the angry, brilliant young mind you once were, just itching to vent your frustrations. Once RobG told you it wasn't your fault, you lost the edge, dB. You stopped hitting the books with a vengeance, and now I've read stuff you haven't even heard about yet.

Face facts, my friend--love made you soft, unable to stand up to an academic showdown, like you used to. You're just no longer that good--dB Hunting.

Now how do you like them apples?

(no, really, I don't know why I spent 15 minutes looking for and editing that from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. There is something wrong with me, something very very wrong with me. Above post was all in jest)

Chad:There is something wrong with me, something very very wrong with me.

Must...resist....Must....show...some...control.

Phew! I made it!

1) Gunness had nothing to do with Chicago politics.
2) anyone who thinks Kevin Smith diolog is biting satire will likely soon use Tina Fey references in the same regard.

ouch man! I was only kidding around. You're post made me think of that scene so I played on it. I didn't mean anything by it at all.

And Kevin Smith rules (used to). Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back sucked. As did Clerks 2. but Clerks, Mallrats and Dogma are great.

And Tina Fey rules too. 30 Rock is the funniest show on TV. And that comes from a converted Tina Hater.

I can't say I feel anything for Prior any more, either. I laughed my ass off when I saw this news this morning. Not after all the stories of his general attitude. Was there any mention of checking his vagina while they were already operating on him?

Was there any mention of checking his vagina while they were already operating on him?

Woo! Go ignorant sexism!

I giggled. Sorry. Guess that makes me an ignorant sexist and a chauvinist in your mind to some extent, as well. Sorry I let you down, buddy.

Ouch. Called an ignorant sexist by someone I've never even met or spoken to, for a playful jab I took at an Ex-Cub's manhood. How will I ever recover?
Woo! Go ignorant prejudice!
(ducks behind cardboard life-size Mark Prior cutout)

It's true that you're totally sexist and should be ashamed of your misogynist ways--but the Big Lowitzki is a total fag for calling you on it.

Taking posts #3 and #12 together, Prior is a soft pussy who was an idiot for trying to pitch through pain. Makes sense.

We'll never know to what extent his injuries and willingness/unwillingness to pitch through them encompassed. The team kept everyone in the dark about his many physical problems, and Prior kept mum about them as well.

"It is very cold in spaaaace."

KAAAAAHHHHHNNNNNN!!!!!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3422138

The Supreme Court declined to hear the case on Fantasy Baseball, so it looks like they can continue to use the players names and stats for free for now.

Are MLB and MLBPA really so hard up on money that they need to squeeze out every last cent and piss off their current and future fanbases?

http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/2248736.php?

I've always had mixed feelings about naming little league teams after big league clubs. It's great if your kid is on a team he likes. It's another story if your kid is a Cubs fan but ends up on the White Sox or Cardinals. :/

I disagree, and I actually had to COACH the White Sox last year.

Our league went to minor league team names for a couple of years, and while some of the uniforms are pretty cool (we were the Burlington Bees one year), the kids were totally bummed. They don't care whose teams they're on, as long as they look like major leaguers.

Cool. I suspect that's true with the vast majority of kids.

A year or two ago, I heard a couple of rather heated discussions on the radio (one on local Chicago sports talk, another on Dan Patrick) where people were taking the opposite viewpoint -- "my kid isn't a Cubs fan but they're making him join the Cubs". Of course, it was all adults complaining, not the kids. 8)

Here's a fun bit for little leaguers:

http://improveverywhere.com/2008/04/07/best-game-e...

I was always jealous of the kids who were on the "Cubs". When I was a kid, wearing your little league cap to school was cool, especially since they had a real MLB logo on them. I always wanted to be on the "Cubs" so I could wear a Cubs hat. Unfortunately, I never got to be.

It just felt wrong to wear another team's colors.

in our little league there were no team names (mlb). It was chico's bail bonds style.

i played for Mac Towing in my last year before i transfered leagues to another town's where they used real team names.

Sweet.

I had 2 years with Steele's Auto and Wrecker, a year with Chicago's Pizza, and then, my favorite, a year with Brummett's Trash Service.

I started with "Jackie's Pizza" -- a team with great coaches, teaching me lots of things (like not to swing flat-footed). Unfortunately for me, my dad also owned a business that sponsored a team. I was traded to my dad's team, and the coaches there sucked. I regressed on almost everything.

I'm sure that's the only thing that stood between me and a multi-million dollar MLB career.

/that's the ticket

We fans of language tend to refer to that behavior as "greed."

And the answer is yes, they are a bunch of greedy bastards. Greed causes businesses (and let's be frank, professional baseball is a business) to pick short term, two handed money grabbing over solid long term gains. This also tends to be a good indicator that the business has a weak managerial culture that encourages intellectual short sightedness.

But you all know all of this already. MLB is run by a bunch of freaking idiots.

How does that work out? Do the Pads have to shoulder the cost of Prior's surgery?

Of course the Pads pay for the surgery. Who else would pay? I'm sure the MLB health care package is pretty sweet :)

Sorry apparently you missed the pun intended. i should've italicized "shoulder".

I bet it will cost an arm and a leg. Okay, at least an arm.

Now that was humerus. Socket to me...

...ihh

These comments are really off the cuff.

The Cubs SHOULD be rated #1 which is about the first time I can say that in my lifetime. Even the 84 team would have been blocked by the Tigers at that time had power ratings been around then. In 03 the Braves, Giants and Yankees all won over 100 games.

Not that power rankings mean anything, but...
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even Phil (wrongway) Rogers is on board with his power rankings:

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/spor...

I say, hey...somebody's got to be #1, might as well be us.

I love the comments in this article:

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rose...

Haha yes, the best is:

"You would find a negative charater flaw in Mother Teresa. You really are unbelievable".

Rosenbloom is getting hammered, my god, lol.

Rosey (now that's an oxymoron) is from LA so deep down he's most likely a Dodger fan, tries to be cynical/skeptical just because he amuses himself with that approach and would much rather be playing (and losing) at Texas hold'em than really putting any thought into what he writes.

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  • it took you 4 posts to get to this?

    have you checked the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector?

    #droppingknowledge #savinglives

    crunch 16 min 3 sec ago view
  • Fwiw, Billy Hamilton's actual WAR numbers that relate to the ones that I posted for Mike Trout are:

    • 2014: 2.5
    • 2015: 1.0
    • 2016: 2.6

    But by all means #crunchsplain on the stupidity of WAR while exaggerating your points. I can't wait to read more.

    Rob G. 21 min 21 sec ago view
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  • *stroking intensifies*

    crunch 24 min 59 sec ago view
  • #crunchsplaining

    Thanks for the awesome give and take today and for the 535 words you spilled filling in all the gaps that I woefully neglected. We're all a little wiser and better for it. I look forward to your play-by-play summary later in the comments.

    Rob G. 31 min 28 sec ago view
  • it was about a post comparing players based on WAR...and comparing WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...a post that you made...and i made a comment...that talked about D weighting of WAR...and comparinging WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...etc etc...

    hell, we didn't even get in deep. i didn't even involve UZR or FIP versions and their strengths/weaknesses...or position mandated "handicapping" in points...etc.

    let's not talk about that...cool, fine, awesome. context sucks. san dimas highschool football rules.

    *shrug*

    crunch 39 min 23 sec ago view
  • Ha

    jacos 55 min 1 sec ago view
  • Thanks for shining a light on this very important topic and steering it away from the frivolity that was the awesomenes of Mike Trout, but moreso on the foolishness of WAR as a metric to judge the value of center fielders. We're all a little wiser now and your contributions are invaluable to this community and to America's pastime. God Bless!

    Rob G. 1 hour 17 min ago view
  • so...what's chan-yong lim up to these days?

    http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1088746-korean-le...

    oh...

    crunch 2 hours 42 min ago view
  • yes, those hamilton WAR numbers are very reasonable. i'm on your side now based on that biting commentary and reasoning of why he's a 3.5-ish WAR player over a 600 PA season.

    those numbers are obviously well deserved and worthy of no scrutiny...none at all. no issue.

    CF D is rarer than a jon lester pickoff at 2nd...totally irreplaceable...no way in hell there's good D, low/no-hitting CF's in anyone's system that could do what hamilton is doing. guys like this don't exist...you get like, 2-3 at any given time in history.

    crunch 3 hours 2 min ago view
  • Please do not discuss War here. I think the Cub Reporter should be politics free.

    But yes, whether you support War or Peace...Mike Trout is ridiculously consistent and good.

    blockhead25 5 hours 20 min ago view
  • ^^^#WARTruther

    Rob G. 5 hours 32 min ago view
  • "According to FOX Sports' Jon Morosi, Tim Tebow's baseball workout Tuesday in Los Angeles will be attended by scouts from "roughly half" of the 30 major league teams."

    "One scout told ESPN.com last week that Tebow's swing is so long it might "take out the front row." That's not a good thing."

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    The #MBpelicans and @Cubs have extended their PDC through 2020!
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    Carolina League getting 2 new teams too.

    QuietMan 8 hours 22 min ago view
  • CF WAR is ridiculous...billy hamilton is pulling a 3.0 WAR somehow...and managed a 2.0 WAR last year (even though he missed a month of the season)...and a 3.7 WAR in 2014.

    yeah, a lot depends on how one is doing relative to others at a given position, but WAR is common used (right or wrong) as a blanket comparing all kinds of players.

    trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo.

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