Game 58 Thread / Cubs @ Padres (1 of 3)

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SP Carlos Zambrano SP Cha Seung Baek

7-1, 2.33, 55 K, 24 BB, 81 IP
1-1, 5.23, 18 K, 13 BB, 31 IP

LF Alfonso Soriano CF *Jody Gerut
SS Ryan Theriot 2B Tadahito Iguchi
1B Derrek Lee RF *Brian Giles
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Adrian Gonzalez
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff
CF *Jim Edmonds C Michael Barrett
2B Mark DeRosa SS Khalil Greene
C Henry Blanco LF *Paul McAnulty
P #Carlos Zambrano P Cha Seung Baek












The Cubs try to extend their winning streak to eight as they travel out West to face the struggling San Diego Padres. As Dr. Hecht mentioned earlier, the Cubs will get emergency starter Cha Seung Baek instead of Shawn Estes, who broke his thumb tripping on the way to the dugout. You can leave the Cubs, but Cubbery follows you everywhere.

For the Cubs, it's Carlos Zambrano, fresh off a 130 pitch effort against the Dodgers last week. Lou has already mentioned that he'll likely be on a shorter leash than usual. Hopefully it's not too short, as you'd like to keep his .316 hitting bat in the lineup.


Yay! Z vs. Barrett!


Freaking 9:39 PM and I'm watching Cubs Pregame. Ugh... stupid west coast games (apologies to Rob).

what am I, chopped liver?

I once had a stripper in Vegas ask me that. I was busy ogling the hot, scantily-clothed chick who was selling test tube shooters, ignoring the somewhat less attractive naked (waist up, anyway) woman on stage right in front of me. She leaned down off the stage, touched my arm to get my attention and asked me if she was chopped liver.

I thought I was going to be thrown out when I responded, "yeah, pretty much."

I chose wisely. Whereas the stage is a do not touch zone, shooter babe sits on your lap while peddling her wares. ;)

So RobG is a shooter girl?

Oh, come ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN Soriano~~~~~!!!

Just fucking ridiculous.

comment by announcers. "did he break back on the ball?"

and then the roof falls in on Z...

Bad time for a DP Aramis....

Padre announcer complaining "Edmonds didn't hit like this when he was with us." Kind of gives me satisfaction to having to listen to the home broadcast.

edmonds is really getting the bat around quicker lately. just 2 weeks ago he looked pretty washed up. good stuff. too bad he's not the defender he once was.

hope he can keep it up at least to some form of respectable level.

well that was an adventure....marmol may have just cost himself an allstar spot.

watching the cubs keep tacking on runs and the penguins and red wings battle forever tonight was a fantastic late night of sports watching. awesome on both sides.


"marmol may have just cost himself an allstar spot."


He can spend the three days icing his arm.


Those announcers are douchebags. They were looking for any possible way to criticize the Cubs...guess that's what happens when your team sucks and you're playing a good team.

Anyway, I was especially annoyed when the colorman (can't remember who does it) basically predicted Tommy Johns for Marmol. WTF? He almost sounding happy to make that prediction. Yeah, they've got a good pitcher, but his deliver will get him injured.

pretty brutal last night...were way over the top bagging on Soriano on two separate plays. The plays deserved some criticism, but they seemed confused about their place in the standings and the Cubs.

I wonder if the announcers are bitter over the number of Cub fans in attendence.

A phenomana foreign to the Cubs home games, except for against Cardinals and White Sox.

I think they enjoy their own little universe and are not use to hearing loud roars when the visiting does well.

See Marty Brennaman and his gay son Thom.

could be...the phenomenon in San Diego is quite something. Easily 50/50 crowd, I would almost guess 70/30 in favor of the Cubs at some games I've been to...

Marmol pitched for the 7th time in the last 10 days yesterday, and straddled the 8th/9th inning, to boot.

Lou keeps that up, and TJ surgery will be one of a list of procedures Marmol will need.

On the highlight, it looked as if Piniella defensive subbed for Sori in left field. Is that the case? And who played left?

I think it was a double-switch when Marmo came in in the 8th. In any event, a good thing -- not sure if Fonzie would have caught that last ball....

fyi, it was Reed. I definitely felt more confident with him running down Barrett's last ball than Sori. +1 for Lou.

Thanks guys.

Both Berkman and Chipper are prompting talks of someone hitting .400 again. I think Z definitely wants in on that. All he needs to do now is to convince Lou to get him enough AB's to qualify.


Saw this in the Sun Times:

Injured reliever Chad Fox was examined by surgeon James Andrews, who confirmed the Cubs staff's original diagnosis for the tingling and numbness in his pitching elbow: ulnar neuritis.

I believe you covered this, but what is ulnar neuritis? Will Chad Fox' arm fall off at the elbow?

According to Barry and Sammy never existed.

but what is ulnar neuritis? Will Chad Fox' arm fall off at the elbow?
His elbow not fall off, unless someone with an axe gets loose in the clubhouse.

-itis means inflammation, and the prefix neur- refers to nerve, so in Fox's case it's inflammation of the ulnar nerve.

the rest of it is covered here:

I like Lou's straightforward response re: Wuertz:

Piniella was also not pleased with the performance of reliever Michael Wuertz, and once again threatened to call up another relief pitcher, perhaps even by Tuesday.

“We’ve talked about 13 pitchers here in the past, and I think we’re going to have to start talking about it again,” he said. “Michael is walking people. In that type of role, you have to make the other people put the ball in play. You just can’t walk people, and most of the times he comes into ballgames, that’s exactly what happens, and it forces me to go get another pitcher.”

More at

I'm not opposed to 13 pitchers, but if Lou does that, he needs to change his approach with his bench. More often than not, we get to the 9th with 1 or no bench players left. If he's got one less bench player, he's going to have to be more judicious in using the 4 he's got.

How about Jim Edmonds? Maybe he does still have a little left in the tank.

Can't expect him to keep his .286/.324/.543 line as a Cub so far, but if he could pull off something like a .265/.330/.470 line....well I don't think I'd have too much to complain about.

Absolutely right. And don't forget Edmonds was out an entire month with a calf injury and missed most of Spring Training. He basically did his ST during the regular season, then we got him.

He's healthy(er), he's returned to his old batting stance, his bat speed is back and he's sure squaring up the ball lately.

He's finally got that good power stroke back. You're right about squaring it up. He's hit some balls REALLY hard in the last few days.

If Edmonds is going to hit, the Cubs lineup is a monster, especially during Z's starts.

BTW, does anyone else think that Z would rather have an plate appearance in the ASG than pitch an inning?

I wish Zambrano could play every day. For just one day I'd love to see him play LF.

No way on left, first base.

At the ASG, he could be DH. ;-)

Of course, so could Sori. :-S

He'd make a great defensive replacement for Soriano.

I must say that it was really good to see "Bad Z" show up last night, but only give up 3 runs. He let his emotions go a bit crazy at a couple of points, but was still able to maintain control and not freak out.

Of course, it helps that it was against the lowly Padres, but last year he would have exploded in a similar game.

Yeah, if this were last year I suppose Z would have imploded and started overthrowing everything. Maybe last year was humbling for him.

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  • Molina in the Cards lineup.

  • Fowler (CF), Schwarber (RF!), Bryant (3B), Rizzo (1B), Castro (2B), Coughlan (LF), Russell (SS), Ross (C), Lester (P)

  • If the baseball gods would guarantee that result, I'd take it :-).

  • I wonder if it is about numbers specifically against the Mets. But, it could also be because Kershaw can go 9 innings everytime, while Grienke very rarely makes it through the game. They don't want to expose their weak bullpen.

    I have trouble getting past the extraordinary 1.66 ERA, but I don't know what the heck will happen with the Cy Young vote this year.

  • So Kershaw is opening the series for the Dodgers. How, then, does Greinke get the Cy Young? Not even the best pitcher on his team!

  • You have angered the baseball gods. Now Lester will lose and Hendricks will win.

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    Will be fun to watch. My two keys are scoring early, and keeping Lester's pitch count below 15 per inning.

  • Hopefully Der Kaiser won't be doing this until December

  • So, yes, I have been quoting your, "mediocre pitcher" label all year in jest - good or bad.

    He has been pretty filthy against the Cards, and this is the game they need to "steal".

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  • Gordo's lede today:

    ST. LOUIS – Whether it’s a year early or right on time, Jon Lester’s $155 million moment arrives just after 5:45 p.m. Friday.

  • *checks pulse*

    *checks pulse again*


  • Who are you? Andy Rooney?

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