Chicago Cubs Draft History

We've had a few draft history pieces over the years, a 3-part series I did back in 2005( the third part is particularly gruesome) and one by reader "Real Neal" last year. Reader "Wiscgrad" has put one together for this year and I'll be adding it to the "TCR Junk Drawer" as soon as I get a moment. Unfortunately, I'm having some issues getting it translated to HTML (particularly the pictures), so the PDF file is down below for your reading and viewing pleasure.

Chicago Cubs Draft History (PDF File)

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As some ESPN hack would write for the talking heads :"the Good, the bad, and the Ugly of the Cubs draft history." Good job, Rob.

To change the subject entirely, I would love the Cubs to get C.C. Sabathia, but not for ARam. Cliff Lee might be pitching outside of his level, so I'm wary of that guy. AJ Burnett is an oft-injured malcontent. No thanks. We're chock full of pitchers that are head cases.

Huh? People are saying ARam for CC? That would never happen.

What? Where was the Aram rumor from?

just to clarify, reader WISCGRAD wrote the article I linked to, although I did do one in 2005.

 

 

I like to look at this list I compiled and slam my head in a door every once in awhile:

http://mvn.com/mlb-cubs/2005/06/03/the-baseball-draft-the-couldai-been-cubs/ 

ALL-TIME JUST MISSED TEAM
P - Dwight Gooden (1982/5th); Shawon Dunston(1982/1st)
P - Jack McDowell(1987/5th); Mike Harkey (1987/4th)
P - Roger Clemens (1983/19th); Jackie Davidson (1983/6th)
P - Billy Wagner (1993/12th); Brooks Kieschnick(1993/10th)
C - Ray Fosse (1965/7th); Rick James (1965/6th)
1B - Mark McGwire (1984/11th); Drew Hall (1984/3rd)
2B - Chuck Knoblauch (1989/25th); Earl Cunningham (1989/8th)
SS - Garry Templeton (1974/13th)/Scot Thompson (1974/8th)
3B - Robin Venura (1988/10th)/Ty Griffin (1988/9th)
OF - Manny Ramirez(1991/13th); Doug Glanville(1991/12th)
OF - Lance Berkman(1997/16th); Jon Garland (1997/10th)
OF - Gary Matthews (1968/17th); Ralph Rickey (1968/15th)

in hindsight, Utley deserves to be the second basemen on that team, picked 15th the year we picked Montanez 3rd.

 

Kevin Goldstein's mock draft has the Cubs picking...

... a slow and steady riser, as the Cubs have been in on hard and heavy to see the last few starts by Illinois high school star Jake Odorizzi. He has the kind of velocity, command, and clean mechanics rarely seen from the cold-weather states.... consistently touching 95 mph with his fastball while showing a much-improved breaking ball.
Selection: Jake Odorizzi, RHP, Highland HS (IL)

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?arti...

not killing the messenger here...nonetheless...

mock drafts past the first 5 or so picks are pretty f'n lame.

cubs got way too deep of a pick to even narrow it down to 3-5 possible picks, especially in this very weak draft class. very very very weak...there's like only 1-2 highschool pitchers worth drafting and some of the best college arms are relievers.

btw, if pedro alvarez makes it past AAA with his swing i'd be amazed. someone will blow million on him in the first 10 picks, though (probably top 5).

Not doubting you or anything Crunch because I have no clue about this, but out of curiosity, what makes you think Alvarez's swing is worse than MLB scouts think it is? Have you seen him play?

yes, seen him play...also seen video (god, i love the new era of video-on-demand coming from all over the place along with nearly every cell phone having a camera).

about his swing...i dont really think scouts think its better than i think it is...at least i dont think too many expect him to be a guy who's a top tier talent. he can move the bat through the zone, but he really loves chasing anything high which he can do something with his aluminum bat and wrist/hand speed. he's is the most polished bat in the draft, but he's not THAT polished. it's a weak draft class all around.

about his glove/arm...average at best for both. lotta people on the fence about whether he'll be able to stay there and if he might/should end up in LF/1st. doubt anyone will draft him and do anything but stick him at 3rd to begin with, but how long can he stay? with an arm that's barely 3rd base quality and average D...he'd need some good power for that...

which brings me to the power thing. i've been sold on him being a guy with a great swing...fast swing...but his power stroke *seems* to be aluminum bat influenced and since coming back from his hamate bone removal it's really showed.

that said...he does have the tools and he's very athletic. he's also the most polished bat in the draft. he'll have a lot going for him coming into this draft that would be overshadowed in other draft classes. a lot of what's moving him up (besides his actual #s performance) is how athletic he is. he's not fast by any means (kinda slow), but he's not lazy and there's a lotta teams who would love to try to mold him into the guy he could be.

Nice article Wisconsin!

The CC for Aram is from Goatriders. No sniping please; I found it preposterous as well. Not a rumored trade, just some random idiot's idea.

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  • The Cubs great pitching has a lot more to do with their great defense this year and plenty of good luck  (#1 in ERA, #4 in FIP behind Nats, Mets and Dodgers with a rather ridiculous .258 BABIP against Cubs' pitchers).

    Cubs pitchers do strike out more hitters than Giants pitchers and do walk more hitters than Giants pitchers so that's a few more balls in play. Cubs' pitchers actually have a higher groundball rate though. Crawford is just really good and baseball happens.

    Rob G. 36 sec ago view
  • i do what i want.

    i run with 12 gangs and we only commit hate crimes.

    i do what i want.

    crunch 1 hour 5 min ago view
  • I was asking how well Scherzer holds on runners.

    #baseballtalk

    BTW, your used underwear remark sounds rather specific. Please don't project. Thanks.

    Tito 1 hour 33 min ago view
  • nothing gets you going like someone talking about lester, eh?

    i hope you're on his payroll or he sends you used underwear or whatever you're into.

    btw, he holds runners like shit. he does things with runners i've never seen another pitcher do in my life...even going back before i was born as far as i can tell. would you like to discuss it? that sounds like it could be educational and fun. hit me up, bruh.

    crunch 1 hour 36 min ago view
  • last year they won 97...and came in 3rd in the division. crazy game on a year-to-year basis.

    this year it's likely no one else in the division will win 90, though it's technically possible at this point.

    no matter what, this is a special team, though...very well rounded...and should be mostly intact next year with a bonus schwarber. chapman may not be around, but whatever...rondon and crew are capable even if not on chapman's level.

    crunch 1 hour 37 min ago view
  • How well does he hold on runners?

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 32 min ago view
  • It's August 26. Cubs with 14 game lead. And not for #1 draft pick.

    Words I never thought I would type together.

    Jackstraw 3 hours 47 min ago view
  • One more victory to ensure a winning season!

    billybucks 6 hours 3 min ago view
  • If I were a betting man

    Give me the Dodgers tonite, not just because of
    Monty on mound.

    Two nights in LA for the kids? Woooo

    /Prove me wrong

    jacos 6 hours 4 min ago view
  • When Scherzer is on his game, he might the the most dominant and intimidating pitcher. A couple of games he has pitched against the Cubs when he had his stuff, and his mound presence was just powerful.

    billybucks 6 hours 5 min ago view
  • So are lack of chances due to the great pitching?

    jacos 6 hours 7 min ago view
  • TLS watch: 0-4 with Iowa last night. Saving his pinch hits for September.

    Cubster 6 hours 57 min ago view
  • Objectively true. Scherzer's FIP is almost a half point higher than his ERA, mostly I deduce because his BABIP is .249 so something ridiculous like that. It's not like the guy can't be scored on, but when I watch him, I sometimes feel that he's the most in control of the game moving around him.

    John Beasley 7 hours 42 min ago view
  • Certainly might be the hottest pitcher right now, but he's behind a few pitchers by most objective full season standards.

    Rob G. 10 hours 56 min ago view
  • Well noted. You may also note that Lester's Career Playoff ERA is almost a full point lower, and he has a lower WHIP as well.

    Can't have everything, I guess.

    The E-Man 16 hours 2 min ago view
  • i'm happy enough with the Lester signing, but Scherzer has more than earned the extra money so far. If he was in the rotation instead of Lester, this team would feel practically bulletproof to me.

    Blaspheme maybe, but I think Scherzer is the best pitcher in the NL right now.

    John Beasley 16 hours 53 min ago view