Game 60 Thread / Cubs @ Padres (3 of 3)

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SP *Ted Lilly SP Greg Maddux
  5-4, 5.54, 61 K, 21 BB, 65 IP
3-4, 3.69, 38 K, 12 BB, 70.2 IP
       
LF Alfonso Soriano CF Scott Hairston
SS Ryan Theriot 2B Edgar Gonzalez
1B Derrek Lee RF *Brian Giles
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Adrian Gonzalez
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff
CF *Jim Edmonds SS Khalil Greene
C Geovany Soto LF Justin Huber
2B Mark DeRosa C Michael Barrett
P *Ted Lilly P Greg Maddux

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Cubs go for their tenth (10th!) win a row, a feat they haven't done since 2001 when they strung together 12 wins in a row. It would also be their third straight series sweep. Oh, it's fun to be a Cubs fan these days.

On the mound, it's Ted Lilly still searching for his 2007 form. Things started looking up for him in May, that is until he met a 20 mph wind flying out of Wrigley last Friday. A wind the Cubs offsense used to pull off one of those miracle wins that it seems every good baseball team has at least once a season.

They'll have to go through Greg Maddux to get that win though, and the Maddog has enjoyed the spacious comforts of Petco Park to this point; sporting a 1.84 ERA at home, compared to a 5.01 ERA on the road. Let's say I'm less than shocked to discover that Maddux ended up on a team that curtailed the home run tendencies that he started showing late in his career.

Maddux versus the number one offense in baseball, should be fun!

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Tonight's game is all on Ted Lilly. I am beyond confident that the Cubs can push at least 3 or 4 across on Maddux. Lilly needs to pitch at least 6 solid innings against the extremely weak San Diego offense.

We need this one. The 'stache must go!

Lilly bringing nothing to the first 3 hitters...Might be a rehash of his last outing against the Rockies. He was bad that day too.

Speaking of dark clouds...

StL rained out in DC, might be a doubleheader tomorrow although it's supposed to rain more there tomorrow.

Looking back at the 2001 team, how did that team stay in contention for as long as it did? Todd Dunwoody was getting semi-regular playing time, for cryin' out loud. And the Cubs won 12 in a row at one point and led the division by six games in late June!

just looked at the last I-Cubs boxscore and noted that Jason DuBois hit a HR for them on tuesday. Yes it's that Jason DuBois, who probably will get displaced by Micah Hoffpauir shortly. The circle of (baseball) life.

odd but I think we're really lucky to be down only 1-0

Lilly's 86mph fastball isn't getting by anyone today...

edmonds is a drama queen

I hate Hoffman.

A well-pitched game from Maddux and a terrible game for the Cubs' offense. Despite Jeff's "beyond" confidence.

One of the worst offensive game of the year? Ah well can't win em all...lets win 3 out of 4 from the Dodgers and we'll have a really nice road trip.

Was Lilly really that bad yesterday? I missed the game, but his final line in the box score looks pretty decent:

7.1 IP, 7H, 2ER, 2BB, 8K

Prefer to get the number of hits down, but that's not too bad overall.

First couple innings were a pretty bumpy ride. Seemed to wiggle his way off the hook most of the night. His velocity was way down in the first and second, but after that, seemed to get that good 89-91 mph fastball back.

Padres probably should have scored more than the 2 runs off of him, but they kept leaving guys on.

That game was vintage Maddux. His ball had some unbelievable movement on it, and he probably could have pitched 14 innings before he got to 100 pitches.

FWIW -- sore-legged Soriano is 3-for-3 in SB over the last 5 games, and is 6-for-6 on the year.

No BBs for the Cubs last night -- damn Maddux.

Barrett was brutal last night.

Lilly was trying to run on him.

That was a hit and run, not an attempted steal.

And it wasn't just Barrett; Maddux is incredibly easy to run on, as we saw in the Lilly situation with the HUGE jump Lilly got.

True: Maddux/Barrett battery = David Wells stealing bases

Is this a good time to bring up how all the stealing didn't help us score any runs?

Brewers going 9-1 in their last 10 games and gaining exactly 0 games on first-place Cubs in that time span. Love it.

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  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 9 min 12 sec ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 9 min 44 sec ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 34 min 3 sec ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 37 min 24 sec ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 2 hours 7 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 2 hours 14 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 2 hours 26 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 2 hours 28 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 2 hours 50 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 2 hours 51 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 2 hours 59 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 19 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 3 hours 50 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 3 hours 54 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 57 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 17 min ago view