Historical Ex-Cub Factor
Historical Ex-Cub Factor Data
Thanks to the hard work of Carl Condon, I now have a list of ex-Cubs
for all post-season series going back to 1903. This data is still
preliminary, since neither of us has been able to verify exactly who
was on the official post-season rosters for every season. The data from
the most recent years is verified, but before about 1993, we are going
solely on who appeared in the World Series rather than who was on the
roster.
2001 saw only the second instance of a team
overcoming The Factor as the Diamondbacks, 4 ex-Cubs deep, won the
Series in dramatic fashion. Here's the count for the rest of the '01
playoff teams:
Arizona Diamondbacks (4): Miguel Batista, Luis Gonzalez, Mark Grace, Mike Morgan
Atlanta Braves (3): Dave Martinez, Greg Maddux, Rey Sanchez
Houston Astros (3): Orlando Merced, Scott Servais, Jose Vizcaino
Oakland Athletics (1): Mark Guthrie
St. Louis Cardinals (1): Miguel Cairo
Seattle Mariners (1): Jaime Moyer
Cleveland Indians (0)
New York Yankees (0)
RESULT: DIAMONDBACKS (4) DEF. YANKEES (0) -- THE FACTOR IS DEFEATED
In 2000, almost everyone hit the post-season safely below the threshhold:
New York Mets (3): Matt Franco, Todd Pratt, Turk Wendell
New York Yankees (2): Glenallen Hill, Jose Vizcaino
Atlanta Braves (2): Terry Mulholland, Greg Maddux
St. Louis Cardinals (1): Shawon Dunston
Oakland Athletics (1): Doug Jones
Seattle Mariners (1): Jamie Moyer
San Francisco Giants (0)
Chicago White Sox (0)
RESULT: YANKEES (2) DEF. METS (3) -- THE FACTOR HOLDS
1999 marked the second time the Braves were tripped up by The Factor:
Atlanta Braves (3): Jose Hernandez, Terry Mulholland, Greg Maddux
New York Mets (3):Shawon Dunston, Todd Pratt, Turk Wendell
Texas Rangers (3): Mike Morgan, Rafael Palmeiro, Todd Zeile
Arizona Diamondbacks (2): Dan Plesac, Luis Gonzalez
Boston Red Sox (1): Rod Beck
Cleveland Indians (1): Paul Assenmacher
Houston Astros (1): Matt Mieske
New York Yankees (1): Joe Girardi
RESULT: YANKEES (1) DEF. BRAVES (3) -- THE FACTOR HOLDS
1998's playoff teams were pretty much ex-Cub-free:
Cleveland Indians (2): Paul Assenmacher, Doug Jones
Boston Red Sox (1): Dennis Eckersley
Atlanta Braves (1): Greg Maddux
Houston Astros (1): Dave Clark
New Yok Yankees (1): Joe Girardi
San Diego Padres (1): Randy Myers
Texas Rangers (1): Todd Zeile
Ironically, the only team with a critical mass of ex-Cubs on their playoff roster in '98 was the Cubs themselves:
Chicago Cubs (3): Glenallen Hill, Mike Morgan, Terry Mulholland
As you may remember, they didn't make it to the World Series.
RESULT: YANKEES (1) DEF. PADRES (1) -- NO FACTOR
The 1997 playoff teams ended up with the following ex-Cubs on their roster:
San Francisco Giants (4): Jose Vizcaino, Glenallen Hill, Damon Berryhill, Terry Mulholland
Baltimore Orioles (3): Jerome Walton, Rafael Palmeiro, Randy Myers
Seattle Mariners (3): Jamie Moyer, Heathcliff Slocumb, Rick Wilkins
New York Yankees (2): Joe Girardi, Rey Sanchez
Atlanta Braves (1): Greg Maddux
Cleveland Indians (1): Paul Assenmacher
Houston Astros (1): Luis Gonzalez
Florida Marlins (1): Alex Arias
Three of the six divisions were won by teams with critical
masses of ex-Cubs. Before the playoffs, I wrote that chances were the
Orioles and Mariners will drop Jerome Walton and Rick Wilkins,
respectively, to drop below the 3-man threshold, which they did. The
Giants, however, found themselves with way too many ex-Cubs. Even if
they had made it to the World Series, there was no way they could have
won.
It looked like the Altanta Braves learned their lesson from the
previous season (see below); with Dwight Smith gone and Mike Bielecki
on the shelf with shoulder surgery, they were well below the ex-Cub
threshold. None of the other playoff teams had anything to worry about.
RESULT: MARLINS (1) DEF. INDIANS (1) -- NO FACTOR
Remember 1996? Here are that year's playoff teams, with their ex-Cub contingent:
Baltimore Orioles (4): Randy Myers, Rafael Palmeiro, Mark Parent, Todd Zeile
Atlanta Braves (3): Mike Bielecki, Greg Maddux, Dwight Smith
St. Louis Cardinals (2): Dennis Eckersley, Danny Jackson
Cleveland Indians (2): Paul Assenmacher, Jose Vizcaino
New York Yankees (1): Joe Girardi
San Diego Padres (0)
Los Angeles Dodgers (0)
Texas Rangers (0)
Before the playoffs, I wrote the following: "So perhaps we have
found the weak link in the Braves' armor -- 3 ex-Cubs is too many, even
if one of them is
Greg Maddux. Similarly, the Orioles' late-season acquisitions of Mark
Parent and Todd Zeile may have in fact been a deadly mistake. The
Cardinals, on the other hand, were wise to leave Mike Morgan off the
post-season roster."
Well, whaddyaknow? The curse of the ex-Cubs strikes again. The
Braves blow a 2-0 lead in the World Series and end up losing to the
Yankees.
RESULT: YANKEES (1) DEF. BRAVES (4) -- THE FACTOR HOLDS
1995
Atlanta Braves (2): Greg Maddux, Dwight Smith
Cincinnati Reds (2) Chuck McElroy, Jerome Walton
Colorado Rockies (1): Joe Girardi
Cleveland Indians (1): Paul Assenmacher
Seattle Mariners (1): Doug Strange
Boston Red Sox (0)
Los Angeles Dodgers (0)
New York Yankees (0)
RESULT: BRAVES (2) DEF. INDIANS (1) -- NO FACTOR
1994: No playoffs
1993
Atlanta Braves (3): Damon Berryhill, Jay Howell, Greg Maddux
Philadelphia Phillies (2): Danny Jackson, Mitch Williams
Chicago White Sox (1): George Bell
Toronto Blue Jays (1): Joe Carter
RESULT: BLUE JAYS (1) DEF. PHILLIES (2) -- NO FACTOR
1992
Pittsburgh Pirates (3): Danny Jackson, Lloyd McClendon, Gary Varsho
Toronto Blue Jays (2): Joe Carter, Pat Tabler
Atlanta Braves (1): Damon Berryhill
Oakland Athletics (1): Dennis Eckersley
RESULT: BLUE JAYS (2) DEF. BRAVES (1) -- NO FACTOR
1991: The first World Series since 1963 to feature no ex-Cubs
Pittsburgh Pirates (4): Bill Landrum, Lloyd McClendon, Gary Varsho, Curtis Wilkerson
Toronto Blue Jays (2): Joe Carter, Pat Tabler
Atlanta Braves (0)
Minnesota Twins (0)
RESULT: TWINS (0) DEF. BRAVES (0) -- NO FACTOR
1990
Oakland Athletics (3): Dennis Eckersley, Ron Hassey, Scott Sanderson
Pittsburgh Pirates (2): Bill Landrum, Carmelo Martinez
Boston Red Sox (1): Dennis Lamp
Cincinnati Reds (1): Billy Hatcher
RESULT: REDS (1) DEF. ATHLETICS (3) -- THE FACTOR HOLDS
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Great update Phil. It is appreciated. Great to see the hitting over the last ten games. Looks like some of these guys are coming around.
I see Feldman and DeJesus as the most tradeable assets, with Shierholtz somewhere behind them, and the asking price for Garza being more than teams want to give up by a pretty good margin. Garza would still be likely to bring back the best haul, though. I mean, even in a good year, what are you really willing to give up for a Feldman or DeJesus?
It appears that Albert Almora is on his way to Kane County.
r.vogelsong (SF) broke the hell out of his pitching hand getting HBP on a swing tonight. the trainer threw a towel over his hand as soon as he saw it...already scheduled for surgery tomorrow...expected to miss 6 weeks.
True.
just when you think the Cubs are starting to look like a major league team, they go and lose 2 of 3 at home to the Mets.
Scott Feldman though looking good as trade bait.
RIP St Rita alum and great musician
http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/20/ray-manzarek-dead-th...
grant balfour + live TV...what the hell was the MLB Network thinking?
he only let 1 swear fly (not bleeped)...that's about 3-4 times less than i expected.
as an aside...the worst SS i've ever seen in my life is/was bj upton.
words cannot describe how awful he was...it blows my mind he actually made it to AAA playing the position...and that he wasn't moved earlier in his minor league or AAA career. even when he wasn't making plays that would count as errors he was playing really bad SS.
they gave him an enormous amount of leeway trying to get him to stick at the position.
True, but if he's at least decent defensively, and could put up a .270/.350/.390
he'd be worth at least a utility spot.
Come on Soler, Almora and Baez!!!
That is kind of damming with faint praise. :)
That may be true. But is he any less of a prospect than Darwin Barney was?
Barney: .288/.337/.378 in the minors, 35/45 steals 1724 PA's
Watkins:.281/.372/.389, 88/124 steals, 2205 PA's
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/170...
It seems unlikely to me that Watkins will be able to keep up his walk totals in the majors, which kind of makes him a non-prospect.
Per the Baseball Cube (http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/profile.asp...), Derek played the part of two seasons in A ball. He had 56 erros in 128 games in 1993, and 9 errors in 11 games in 1992.
I remember a conversation at TCR years ago with reference to Starlin's propensity for errors, and it was brought up that Jeter once committed 59 in A ball. It was a mini-point of discussion because different sources were reporting the number as either 59 or 159, but it was determined to be 59. Edit: I guess it was 56, funny we both thought of the same thing.
Not sure if it is a record, but in 1993 at Greenboro Derek Jeter had 56 errors.