Crazy Legs Campana Headed to the Desert

Submitted by Rob G. on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 3:19pm

Last week, the Cubs outrighted Tony Campana off thier 40-man to make room for Scott Hairston. Today, the Diamondbacks agreed to give up two pitchers for the speedster...RHP and RHP . Judging by the quality going out, I wouldn't expect much on the quality coming in, but maybe the Cubs unearth one of those diamonds in the rough. Leal, a 6'3" righty out of Venezuela, will be playing his age 18 season and Castillo is a 6'2" righty also out of Venezuela and will be playing his age 17 season. In both cases, plenty of time for them to learn the "Cubs Way." Nick Piecoro had both of them in a write-up on some of the D'Backs international signings from back in late 2011 that you can Here are the quotes from the D'Backs international scouting director Carlos Gomez at the time:

Re: Castillo ($250K signing bonus)

“He’s about 6-2, 165, 170 pounds. He’s long, lean and all kinds of projectable. He has a loose, cool rhythm about him, really free and easy. His fastball ranges from 82-89 mph, but he pitches 85-86 right now. I think he has a chance to throw a lot harder. His best secondary pitch is his changeup and the breaking ball isn’t bad. The spin is there, but it needs work and consistency. He gets really good extension, almost jumps off the mound. We think he can start; we see starter’s arm action and delivery from him.”

Re: Leal ($75K signing bonus)

“He’s 6-3, 180 pounds. He has a nice delivery, a nice arm action, and the highlight again is the breaking ball. He’s a kid who can spin it. It’s 74-76 mph already and his fastball is 86-88. He has the physical size, the delivery, a breaking ball and a present, useable fastball for his age. He’s one of those guys who looks like he might have slipped through the cracks. A lot of that same type of guy was going for more earlier in the year. His delivery is pretty balanced, but he drives pretty aggressively out front; he really gets over his front side well. You can tell the extra breaking ball spin he gets is a function of his finish.”

Something is better than nothing and Crazy Legs was always a lot closer to nothing in my in opinion.

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Submitted by Arizona Phil  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 3:47pm  

Since both Erick Leal and Jesus Castillo are from Venezuela, both will likely pitch for the new VSL Cubs affiliate in 2013.  

BTW, the trade was made right at the 2 PM (Eastern) deadline when the Cubs would have had to place Tony Campana on Outright Assignment Waivers. He could not have been traded once he was placed on Outright Waivers, and it would have been necesssary for the Cubs to place him on waivers today (waiver requests must be submitted by 2 PM Eastern) so that he would either be claimed off waivers or outrighted on Wednesday (the 10th day of the DFA). 

The D'backs must really like Campana a lot. Obviously they would have claimed Campana if he had been placed on waivers, but they couldn't be sure that another MLB with a higher waiver priority (worse 2012 record) wouldn't also put in a claim and get him instead, so they made a "pre-emptive strike."  

Arizona placed RHP Daniel Hudson (TJS rehab) on the 60-day DL to make room for Campana on their 40-man roster.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 4:33pm  

unless a move is coming or injuries, Campana's got a few roadblocks from ever playing for the D'Backs...certainly a lot tougher than getting playing time for the Cubs.


Eaton, Parra, Pollock, Kubel, Ross..Hinske too.

Submitted by Old and Blue  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 4:42pm  
It's really hard to slot a Designated Runner.

Submitted by Carlito  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 9:40pm  
I'm trying to find it, but I recall someone here making a prediction that Camoy would be a good fit on AZ as they are looking for "scrappers" etc. If so, good call! I love this trade BTW,

Submitted by Eric S  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 10:16pm  
It was Jacos. Too lazy to find original comment, but he referred to it in the last post re Jed interview ...

Submitted by Rob G.  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 10:22pm  

ah yes, by virtue of his limited stature and whiteness, Campana has been awarded the prestigious scrappy honor...Ryan Theriot approved.

Total Members of Scrappy Baseball Hall of Fame:

2,315


members that are over 6'0" and/or non-Caucasion:

3

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:46pm  
joey gathright...we saw more of you jumping cars than stealing bases for the cubs

Submitted by toonsterwu  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 8:46am  
Without knowing their options situations, it wouldn't surprise me if Eaton or Pollock were kept in AAA a bit longer (probably Pollock), giving them the ability to stash Campana as a 5th OF/pinch runner. As a total side note, I've tried to defend Towers at times, but they've really taken this "scrappy-tough guy" image ... too far. Hadn't really pondered the makeup of their OF until seeing it right now. It was only last year that they had Chris Young and Justin Upton ... and now, they have 3 guys with very little pop (4 if you include Campana) and two very mediocre OF's. As for the trade, eh, no big loss, IMO. Campana didn't have much long term value (and it's debatable how much overall value). Yeah, the arms don't look that exciting (although they are interesting enough), but for Campana, it seems like a very nice gamble.

Submitted by Cubster  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 10:47am  
regarding s-crappy...where is Ryan Theriot going to land?

Submitted by Arizona Phil  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 1:12pm  

TOONSTER: Adam Eaton has three minor league options left, and A. J. Pollock has two left.

BTW, Tony Campana has two minor league options left, too, so there is no reason why the D'backs can't just stash him at Reno until he's needed, even if it's not until 2014. 

Submitted by QuietMan  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 4:40pm  
Baseball America's write up on the deal. http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/t...

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 4:54pm  
Jed Hoyer phone interview on today/tonight's MLB Network's Clubhouse Confidential (MLB Network's SABR-oriented show), fwiw. -needed pitching this season, waiting for pitching that's already in the system to come up through the system -feels like they have 7 guys who could be in the rotation -e.jackson "young" and fits in with what they want to do with their timetable, great stuff, healthy -timetable is undetermined (run around answer), gave example of 2010 padres as a team that could surprise, "you don't know when it's going to click" -add more talent every year -likes what the bjays did this year...build-then-pounce/aggressive -soriano works hard, fantastic, mentor, etc...if opportunity arises they "would discuss" moving him

Submitted by Old and Blue  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 4:51pm  
Good to see Garza getting off to a good start.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 6:26pm  

must give him a $100M extension because he's the default "best SP available"


(sarcasm font)

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 6:59pm  
oh canada...u so crazy. "Russell Martin is expected to play shortstop for Canada in the World Baseball Classic."

Submitted by The Stick  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 9:16pm  
Wes Darvill does not approve

Submitted by John Beasley  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 9:57pm  
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?ter...

Submitted by crunch  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 10:07pm  
lulz internet.

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 7:06pm  
"Alfonso Soriano has given the Cubs a list of "six or seven" teams that he would be willing to accept a trade to. Soriano doesn't want to be traded to the west coast, as he said the clubs are in the "east or center" of the country. "[The Cubs] know what teams," Soriano said. "We talked, my agent talked with those guys." The Cubs are reportedly willing to eat about $26 million of the $36 million remaining on Soriano's contract if they receive the right package in return."

Submitted by Cubster  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 10:48am  
per Rotoworld...
Matt Garza was diagnosed with a mild lat strain following an MRI.
Garza will rest for one week before trying to throw again. His first Cactus League start will be pushed back, but it's too soon to say whether it will affect his readiness for the start of the season. Still, all things considered, this is pretty good news for the Cubs.

Submitted by JoePepitone  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 11:44am  
"It'll be just like making a mid-season acquisition!"

Submitted by Cubster  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 11:54am  
"It'll be just like making a mid-season acquisition!" --- Yep, for prospects #99, 100

Submitted by Rob G.  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 3:53pm  

if you're bored

http://withleather.uproxx.com/2013/02/cubs-fa...

"'Cubs Facebook' Is the Hot New Twitter Account That Celebrates Outraged Cubs Fans"

and the twitter account

https://twitter.com/FacebookCubs

(someome posting actual comments from the Cubs Facebook account)

Submitted by Rob G.  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 4:05pm  

potential Soriano landing spots speculated by Jay Jaffe

http://mlb.si.com/2013/02/19/alfonso-soriano-...

Orioles, Giants, Rangers, Rays, Yankees, Mets

Submitted by crunch  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 4:32pm  
he's perfect for the yanks...he might bring the average age of the team down a little. =p

Submitted by crunch  on Tue, 02/19/2013 - 5:47pm  
So... the COL GM/front office is moving their operations to the player's clubhouse. along with the absolutely stupid pitching thing they got going on, they're moving into the "player's office" and seemingly undermining the manager's authority. now that they're busy scaring away any SP that might want to sign/play in COL, they're now going to disrupt all the player's space... at what point do these stupid "experiments" get a GM/front office fired? c.hurdle getting fired from COL was a blessing in disguise for him. btw, he got a 1 year extension with PIT today + 1 year club option for 2015.

Submitted by Tito  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 9:09am  
Unless they've changed their minds, they're not doing the "stupid pitching thing" anymore. http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/9/17/3346952/col...

Submitted by crunch  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 3:53pm  
sweet. that whole process seems like free agent pitcher repellant.

Submitted by Cubster  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 5:43am  
10 minute interview with Theo by Kaplan, including video http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/cubs-talk/epst...

Submitted by The E-Man  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 8:52am  
AZ PHIL: Since "Rocket-Man" Tony is gone, who becomes the fastest Cub in the system? I know we have no Billy Hamiltons, but there must be a couple of speedy prospects? Szczur, Dunston Jr., Reyes, Lillibridge, Logan Watkins, Johnny Andreoli?

Submitted by jacos  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 10:13am  
Vogelberg http://www.google.com/imgres?q=engelberg+bad+...

Submitted by Arizona Phil  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 12:10pm  

E-MAN: There is nobody to compare to Tony Campana in the organization, but the fastest runners would be (in order of furthest along in development and not including the DSL guys I haven't seen) Logan Watkins, Matt Szczur, Evan Crawford, Arismendy Alcantara, John Andreoli, Rubi Silva, Zeke DeVoss, Pin-Chieh Chen, Tim Saunders, Gioskar Amaya, Trey Martin, and Rashad Crawford, with Szczur probably #1.   

BTW, Szczur hammered LHP to the tune of 458/552/625 with 0 strikeouts and was tied for 7th in walks and tied for 5th in SB in the AFL post-2012 (and the AFL is approximately equivalent to AA), so he could be in Chicago as a RH platoon CF and lead-off hitter sooner rather than later. He really struggles to hit RHP, however. I'm not sure he will ever be anything more than platoon player or 4th OF (albeit a very useful one).

Submitted by Andrew  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 12:50pm  
I'm curious as to how everyone thinks the final 25 man will shake out. Phil had something the other day about it, which seemed to be pretty logical to me. But that article noted that the last rotation spot (after Baker comes back) was going to be between Feldman and Wood, with Feldman moving to the bullpen being the most likely move. But in the last week or so, Sveum has been clear that Feldman will be a starter, and Hoyer said something about how he signed with the Cubs because they assured of him a roster spot. So, one would assume that Wood is going to go to the pen, since he can't be optioned. However, whose spot is he going to take? Not Marmol, Fujikawa, or Villanueva. Probably not Russell, although maybe. I doubt Rondon, after they selected him. Bowden's out of options too and Camp's too good. So maybe it's a bench bat? Valbuena or Sappelt? I know depth is good and all, but it seems like there are too many guys they like and want than can fit on the 25 man.

Submitted by John Beasley  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 3:43pm  
Wood will definitely go to the pen when Baker's ready, unless Wood is pitching lights-out, in which case Baker may start in the pen after a tune-up in Iowa, assuming no one's hurt. I don't think any of the Cubs' 7 bullpen probables (Marmol, Fujikawa, Villanueva, Russell, Rondon, Bowden, Camp) can be sent down due to service time, rules, options, or Rule 5. Russell's the one I'm not sure about, maybe Phil can clear that up. It does create an interesting logjam if everyone including Baker is healthy.

Submitted by Dusty Baylor  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 7:00pm  
I'm hoping to see this improvement from Feldman before banishing Wood to the bullpen so quickly. Feldman has had an ERA over 5.00 4 of the last 6 seasons, his WHIP is 1.417 career, and he doesn't strike out a ton of batters. Yes, he pitched in Texas, but his career home ERA is 4.40, on the road is 5.24. Ugh. Wood pitched pretty darn decently from a crap team last year Ah I dunno....whatever I suppose...Lol....

Submitted by Tito  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 9:06am  
I kind of feel like if Wood shows anything close to what they hope, Feldman will be the one who goes to the pen.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 4:35pm  

Russell has 3 options

http://www.thecubreporter.com/cubs-40-man-roster

Don't think Bowden or Rondon are by any means players the Cubs will worry much about losing.

 

Submitted by crunch  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 5:07pm  
bowden is a lot better than his history shows. his slider isn't very punchy, but his fastball/change combo is nice...having 3 decent pitches is neat. control will make/break him. seeing as he's not even arb eligable til 2015 he was a steal, imo. he's not got closer stuff, but i like him more than 88mph s.camp in a high leverage relief role going down the road.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 6:37pm  

"This is how you know Theo Epstein is a heartless, calculating bastard. Sure, Campana can’t “hit” or “get on base” or “play baseball” in a major-league sense, but he was so f’n cute."

and with that BP wins the Campana trade anaylsis!

"As the ultimate underdog, Campana connected with the Cubs’ fan base in a big way. During introductions at the team’s annual fan convention last month, Campana might have received a bigger ovation than Ernie Banks. It was really close. Yet, Epstein and his cronies apparently believe that actual organization building outweighs the fact that Campana is the kind of player grannies like to bake for. Cynical pricks"

Snark done right!

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php...

Submitted by jacos  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 6:58pm  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLpmswBKVN4

Submitted by crunch  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 7:20pm  
i'm still blown away by how many people want to ignore wade davis as a starter as part of that mega-trade. yes, giving away myers and odorz was something big to give away, but people seem to think davis (and his long-term cheap value under contract) doesn't exist. some people also seem to not have noticed his curve or cutter in 2012. what he's done with both of those pitches is an eye-opener that's only apparent if you watched him throw them. his cutter is now more deadly than his curve or his scrapped changeup ever was...and he's got a good curve. i don't even want to hear a peep out of those that ignored him about how surprised they are about what he probably will do in 2013 as a starter. it's practically the most under-reported/under-analyzed part of that trade, and one of the most important parts of the trade given how long he's locked down for at such a cheap price.

Submitted by The E-Man  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 8:51pm  
Goddamn it! that's not the way Jim Hendry ran things!!

Submitted by MikeC  on Wed, 02/20/2013 - 8:41pm  
I love what KC did to overhaul that rotation.

Submitted by John Beasley  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 7:49am  
"When I had Corey Patterson as a young guy, I asked him what his expectations were. It was 30 homers and 100 RBIs. I looked at him as a player like Oddibe McDowell, who played in Texas and hit 10 or 12 home runs. I wanted Corey to keep the ball out of the air, but he was one of those guys who wanted to pull everything. I think he learned, later on, that he wasn’t going to be that kind of player. You have to be patient with the young guys and try to convince them of the best approach. At times, they can end up getting really messed up with their swing." - Don Baylor http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/qa-d...

Submitted by jacos  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:07am  
I thought he was putting it together and then he blew his knee out.

Submitted by The E-Man  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:54am  
Yep. It was horrific when I saw it. He was having "the" breakout year. Cubby Occurance for sure.

Submitted by Charlie  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:08pm  
I remember feeling exactly the same way. He'd already hit 13 HRs, he'd been maintaining a decent average, and he was stealing bases. In hindsight, though, he was K'ing 22% of the time and walking 4.3% of the time, and his BABIP was .353 (career BABIP of .296 now). That was the highest HR/FB% he had in any single year (though the next wasn't drastically lower), and he never got close to that 24.9% line drive rate again (unless you count his 30 PA 2009). The other day I was actually thinking that Patterson's knee injury may have helped the Cubs make the playoffs that year. Kenny Lofton had a higher OPS with the Cubs that year than Patterson did, even with his elevated BABIP.

Submitted by JoePepitone  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 1:44pm  
I think it was just a matter of time before the league adjusted to Corey -- and he couldn't make the counter-adjustments to get beyond that. Once they had developed the book on how to pitch him, he could only get a hit if the pitcher made a mistake. Then, when he started to fail, he began spiraling down and became even worse. I was a big Corey fan -- and it was painful to watch, near the end.

Submitted by jacos  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 2:45pm  
Charlie- I agree with Lofton coming on board, and you were probably right that KPat was lucky for the first half of 2003.

Submitted by Charlie  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 3:13pm  
I badly wanted Corey to succeed at the time. The hindsight aspect really only puts the optimism I still have about young players and prospects into perspective.

Submitted by Rob Richardson  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:23pm  
Just walked past Tom Ricketts on my way back from lunch in the Loop. He was on the phone, so I am sure the Cubs will be announcing a big trade soon.

Submitted by jacos  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 2:42pm  
Tom- "How are the plans for the retractble roof?" voice on phone marbled but excited Tom "Exxxxxxxcellllent"

Submitted by crunch  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 2:58pm  
lulz...so much lulz.

Submitted by jacos  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 2:50pm  
"Do you see it!?!?" "Tell me you see it!!!" http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/02/2...

Submitted by crunch  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 3:05pm  
Wow...I knew they got snow in Tucson yesterday, but the pics/video of the fields in Phoenix area covered in snow is mind-blowing. It's rare enough for Tucson to get snow that actually sticks...for it to happen in Phoenix and actually stick is "woah." There's a lot of really unhappy/dead citrus in home gardens all over AZ after all of this.

Submitted by Cubster  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 4:28pm  
Cubs win 7-3 (White beats blue). Starlin 3 hits plus flashing some leather. Soler hit's a moonshot off Nick Struck. Schierholtz, 2 run HR off foul pole. Bogusevic HR off Dolis. Stewart double, Lake triple. Plus a Carrie Muskat tweet about Stewart and Vitters both with sore left quadriceps but able to play. I'm hoping for an AZ Phil eyewitness report. One of the great things in life (those AZ Phil reports).

Submitted by crunch  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 4:48pm  
"Ian Stewart is day-to-day with a quadriceps strain." doh...supposedly a mild strain, fwiw.

Submitted by crunch  on Thu, 02/21/2013 - 7:57pm  
"Josh Vitters was unavailable for the Cubs' intrasquad game Thursday due to a left quad strain." doh...supposedly day-to-day.

Submitted by Cubster  on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 1:32pm  
Ian Stewart getting an MRI, Vitters not getting an MRI. Can we read into this how they value each player currently? Quad strains don't really need MRI imaging since it wouldn't have any affect on how it's treated but they are fun to read (at least that's what the radiologists tell me).

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  • crunch 8 hours 52 min ago (view)

    don't worry, i'm sure even though he was spared from cuts there's some hardship he's being tortured with that he has to unfairly overcome.  #coreystrong #onthecross #yolo #swag #kony2012

     
  • crunch 8 hours 54 min ago (view)

    there's no way a system like that or something similar to that would work.

    "oh hi." - green bay packers

    *shoves out of way*

    like i said, there's no way that would work.

     
  • Hagsag 11 hours 50 min ago (view)

    Corey Black still has a job.

     
  • Charlie 11 hours 57 min ago (view)

    I am ready for MLB owners to give it a f***ing rest. I don't have any outrage to spare on them.

    If they can't afford this crisis, maybe they can surrender franchise rights to the players, grounds crew, concession employees, etc., and MLB teams can be employee owned.

     
  • Dolorous Jon Lester 16 hours 11 min ago (view)

    Couldn't have said it better myself, unfortunately.

     
  • JustSayin' 1 day 39 min ago (view)

    These players weren't cut/released; laid off is more like it. Fifty-two minor leaguers let go before any real games played, in two waves. The draft will be five rounds this year, not forty.  This is industrial downsizing, anticipating no traditional season this year and capitulation to MLB demands for a much smaller minor league system in 2021.  Next year or 2022 could also see a labor stoppage in the big leagues, over what promises to be a very tough CBA negotiation.  The game will not be what it used to be after this.

     
  • crunch 1 day 4 hours ago (view)

    i don't blame the ownership/font office for doing what they did with bryant.  it was just kinda bad timing that bryant was the client that boras was finally "i'm sick of this" over.  the cubs were warned that boras was going to make a stand and it dragged on so long there has to be some kind of toll on the boras/cubs relationship.

     
  • bigsky33 1 day 4 hours ago (view)

    Hi Phil, yes, hoping for an extended AZ Fall League.  Do you think there will be more cuts?  De La Cruz was the only big sureprise to me. I thought he had some upside. 

     
  • Dolorous Jon Lester 1 day 6 hours ago (view)

    It'll be more over when Kris leaves. Or whenever the same thing happens to another of his clients.

    He isn't wrong though...

     
  • Arizona Phil 1 day 6 hours ago (view)

    Presuming there is no traditional minor league season in 2020, expect an expanded Arizona Fall League (with potentially a new "Florida Fall League" as well) for the best prospects and expanded post-season instructs for other minor leaguers (all TBA). 

     
  • Arizona Phil 1 day 6 hours ago (view)

    My understanding is that the other two Cubs minor leaguers who are to be released are the two post-2019 Article XX-B MLB free-agents who signed 2020 minor league contracts, Brandon Morrow and Jason Kipnis. The Cubs will then supposedly re-sign them to new minor league contracts without the $100K retention bonus and 6/1 opt-out. 

     
  • Arizona Phil 1 day 6 hours ago (view)

    CRUNCH: Agreed. Not counting the "4-A" guys, Oscar de la Cruz is the one legit MLB prospect on the list.  

     
  • crunch 1 day 6 hours ago (view)

    aww...de la cruz had some decent looking spring outings (though late inning spring work isn't exactly challenging).  the years of injuries insanely slowed his progression.  totally wouldn't mind seeing him return in 2021 if the team would still be on his radar after getting cut at a time like this.

     
  • crunch 1 day 8 hours ago (view)

    that whole "kris bryant thing" is over...but it's never going to be over as long as this ownership group and boras is around.

    boras could have focused this on 29 other teams, especially the more vocal ones because the cubs have been mostly silent.  the cubs aren't the only team out there paying off "creatively financed" loans, either.

    he chose the cubs.

     
  • Dolorous Jon Lester 1 day 13 hours ago (view)

    Not looking forward to seeing that list. Hate to see it when a guy you've invested any sort of energy in is given up on.

     
  • Cubster 1 day 13 hours ago (view)

    Chi Tribune today. Boras picks, and focused on the Ricketts. 

    Headline writer, fun job: Agent won’t let Cubs get away Scott-free Matt York/AP and Paul Sullivan.

    Boras told his players “the game can not be played without you” and asked them to share the concept with teammates and opposing players when “MLB requests further concessions or deferral of salaries” during negotiations.

     
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