Royals @ Cubs: Ventura vs. Wada (Game 48 Thread)

KC (29-18): RHP Yordano Ventura (3-4, 4.64)

CHC (25-22): LHP Tsuyoshi Wada (0-0, 2.70)


Escobar ss

Infante 2b

Cain cf

Morales 1b

*Gordon lf

Perez c

Rios rf

Colon 3b

Ventura p

#Fowler cf

Bryant 3b

*Rizzo 1b

Castro ss

*Montero c

Soler rf

*Coghlan lf

*Wada p

Russell 2b

Wada switches spots with Hammel, who’s getting an extra day because of his ongoing nail issue and an extra extra day because of the rainout. Yesterday’s game will be made up on Monday Sept. 28, when KC is in town to face the Southsiders.

Wada has decent if abbreviated numbers since coming off the DL for his two winless starts. He might have been on an informal or unstated pitch count as he works himself back (69 against SD and 83 against WAS). When asked about Wada going longer, Maddon responded: “It just depends. It’s not a 100-pitch exercise.” Only Butera (with 1 official AB and a BB) has ever faced Wada in the regular season.

STL beat Ventura his last time out, when he went 7 and gave up 4 ER. He has pretty electric stuff--his fastball was ranked second among starters for all of MLB last year--but his control is inconsistent. If the Cubs start chasing, it could get ugly fast. Only 4 Cubs have a handful of bats against him (Fowler, Lake, Montero, and Ross). Ross has 2 ABs, with a HR.

Alex Rios returns for KC after a fractured left hand put him on the DL in the second week of the season. He went 3-17 with a HR in his rehab assignment.

Let’s hope for an early lead. The Cubbies like their late-inning heroics, but that's not how you beat KC. And if the Royals continue to hit HRs, we should have someone check the pine tar on their bats.

Go Cubs!



Beef is catching for Seattle today vs Indians

Travis Wood is playing his way out of town

At that point I was ready to leave him in there, sacrifice the game, and see how many consecutive batters were going to reach against him. I believe the only thing saving his job at this time is lack of information.

The 6th inning was just really, really terrible managing by Joe. Tie game in the 6th, two outs, man on first -- with a rain-out rested bullpen -- and you bring in your mop-up/extra inning guy? Who has been one of the worst pitchers in the majors for the past 2 years? Who is still learning how to pitch out of the bullpen? What possible explanation can there be for that? Just horrible.

The bullpen has been Maddon's achilles heel. But in his defense, nobody has come in and gotten the job done during that stage of the game whose last name isn't Grimm and he probably felt it was too early to bring him in. You can argue I guess that Wood isn't used to coming in with a guy on base, but I think Maddon would argue it shouldn't make any difference, and he'd be right. Hopefully he'll now turn to Theo and say, "time to cut this guy loose. I can't even bring him in to hold 'em in the sixth. What good is he?"

Can someone just get Schlitter and Wood an apartment together. In Siberia. Maybe Jackson can join them ...

Finally, someone who can sing! Thank you, Fat Tony.

They seem to be few and far between these days.

parachat link on TCR...cubs with a winning record... what year is it?

i am so fucking over david ross... why is he even in the game in a tie game anyway? did montero get injured?

i know he's the hero today and everything, but me too.

no Montero injury... they pinch ran with Herrera when Montero walked. Herrera did score from 2nd on the Coughlan single to tie the game.

pinch runner...gotcha. my internet is being sketchy as all hell today. i'm stuck with an audio feed (and a constantly crashing innerwebs) right now. thanks.

JD, after noting that only Edwin Jackson is left in the bullpen.."If the phone rings, at least they will know who it's for."

cubs win!!!! ha. a bloop out turns into a bloop hit because of defensive positioning fearing another bunt attempt by d.ross. awesome.

Cubs seem to have the "Angels in the Outfield" going against their opponents this year. I think it was Ernie that tripped the guy this time. Whales Win!!

We are definitely ahead in the outfield breaks dept. but when Fowler fowled up on that ball Friday I thought I felt the pendulum swing. But today goes in our column of the ledger!

go whales go...go whales go...hey chicago what do you say...wait, a negro played today?

also speaking of Fowler, he basically reached back and made himself out on that Rizzo single. The anti-scoring slide.

That really was remarkable - a run turned into an out by your leadoff hitter, who should know how to run the bases. How's that contract year coming, Dexter?

it's a shame almora isn't joining the rest of the cubs youth movement...CF could be interesting next year since i doubt dex is looking a 1-2 year deal.

Congrats to CTSteve with his first Cubs' victory!

Woot! I just pied myself... mmmm shaving cream.




Hahahaha! Yes!!! Got some all over the lady trying to interview you too! :(

(hoping she got the shaving cream and not the yellow stuff) ruh, roh...thought it was Pee'd not Pie'd.

We have a winner!!

CTSteve record Game 1: Loss Game 2: Tie Game 3: Win Just remember CT, win or tie, we're with you.

Brewers-Dbacks game is crazy. Longest game by time in Miller Park. Garza just pitched his 5th inning as their 9th pitcher in the game. 6-6 in the bottom of the 17th in Milwaukee. edit: And Garza gets the win (3-7) on a Maldonado HR in bottom of 17th. Also, Welington is 0-4 with another tie game (3-3) in the 10th, Seattle vs Indians.

SD up by 6 in the 3rd...jeah. oh yeah, vs PIT...derp.

PIT loses...cubs have a 1 game lead over them for 2nd place in the NL central (6 games back of STL and 0.5 back of the wild card).

What is this scoreboard watching thing of which you speak? In all seriousness, nice to be relevant enough that other games matter outside of hoping other bad teams win in order to improve draft pick.

Went to the ballpark yesterday with some of my wife's inlaws from KC. Very cold, wind from North and off the lake. Lots of KC people in the stands. Heard stories of other KC people in town that had tickets to Saturday, and left without seeing a game due the rainout. Maddon manages a lot of games using the bench very aggressively. It seems like he does not want to save anybody.

Further to the above, Hammel was in the on-deck circle when Ross hit his jamshot to win the game. I don't recall Hammel being announced, but the pitcher's spot was due next, and Rosscup was in that spot. He was out of position players.

Today's lineup with Hammel batting 8th is like Joe Maddon using him as a pinch hitter in the 11th inning. Certainly as capable of productive at bats as Baxter/Herrera.

why in the hell are they wasting a "pitch around to get to the pitcher" slot on cog rather than castro at this point just to keep a L/R matchup that deep in the lineup intact? d.ross has benefited greatly from it...hell, it's almost his only saving grace at the plate.

good point

Because opponents will throw shit to Castro trying to work around him and he'll still swing at it and get himself out?

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  • crunch 15 hours 37 min ago (view)

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  • crunch 17 hours 54 min ago (view)

    Yeah, I've made myself familiar with a lot of the changes, but AZP's posts have both added more information and cleared up stuff I didn't fully grasp.  I appreciate the hell out of it.  Thanks Phil, thanks TCR.


  • bradsbeard 19 hours 36 min ago (view)

    Looks like Savant has his breaking pitch classified as a curve while Fangraphs calls it a slider. Suppose by ST he could have made everything over in the pitching lab, so who knows!


  • Arizona Phil 19 hours 53 min ago (view)

    Again, none of these rules (including the one that requires a pitcher to face a minimum of three batters or else record the final out of the inning) have been officially approved.  

    I think one possible caveat that might be added to the three-batter minimum rule would be that the pitcher can be replaced prior to facing three batters or recording the final out of the inning if the other team puts up a pinch-hitter. 


  • Arizona Phil 19 hours 57 min ago (view)

    Ptchers would also be treated differently under the new rules as far as the Injured list and Optional Assignment to the minors is concerned, with pitchers having to spend at least 15 days (up from 10 days) on the Injured List before being eligible to be reinstated and at least 15 days (up from 10 days) on Optional Assignment before being eligible to be recalled (inless the pitcher is being recalled to replace a pitcher on the 26-man roster who has been placed on an MLB inactive list).  


  • Arizona Phil 19 hours 57 min ago (view)

    SONICWIND: As the rule is proposed, prior to the start of each MLB regular season a club must designate all players on its Opening Day 26-man roster as either a "pitcher" or a "position player." A maximum of 13 can be designated as pitchers (14 pitchers max when rosters expand from 26 to 28 beginning on 9/1). 

    For players who come up during the season, the club must designate the player as either a pitcher or a position player when the player is placed on the MLB active list roster. 


  • Arizona Phil 20 hours 10 min ago (view)

    BRADSBEARD: Fangraphs shows the CT as his primary pitch in 2018 with the SL & FB (and an occasional CH) as his secondary pitches, with no CV at all. I guess I'll find out for sure in Spring Training. 


  • Sonicwind75 21 hours 26 min ago (view)

    AZ Phil, thank you as always for the detailed information.  How is the "cannot be a pitcher" part of the rule to be enforced?  With a few two way players and the increasing amount of mop up innings being handled by position players it seems like there could be a gray area there.  What is preventing a team from stashing an athletic relief pitcher as a "5th outfielder" that could be a pinch runner and play a passable OF when needed but could also provide them with extra relief pitcher.  Anytime I hear of a new rule I always think of how Bill Billichek would circumvent it t


  • bradsbeard 21 hours 26 min ago (view)

    AZ Phil, looking around Baseball Savant, it looks like Winkler now primarily throws a low 90s cutter, a 4-seamer that he throws a little harder (but is less effective), a curve and a sinker. The slider and change haven't been a major part of his repertoir the last two years. The cutter has been really effective the last two years but it looks like he lost command/effectiveness of his 4-seemer and curve last year For whatever reason  


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    They just signed this guy:


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    There seems to be a lot of player movement so far. Too bad the Cubs aren't involved.


  • Arizona Phil 1 day 18 hours ago (view)

    Beginning in 2019, a club must wait a minimum of seven days before it can place a player who was claimed off Outtright Assignment Waivers during the off-season back onto waivers, so because he was claimed off waivers on Wednesday 11/27, yesterday (Wednesday 12/4) was the first day the Cubs could place LHRP C. D. Pelham back onto Outright Assignment Waivers, and so tomorrow (Friday 12/6) is the first day the Cubs can send Pelham outright to the minors (if he was placed back onto waivers yesterday).


  • Arizona Phil 2 days 14 hours ago (view)

    A Competitive Balance draft slot can be traded only during a period of time starting on December 2nd and extending up until two hours prior to the MLB First-Year Player Draft (MLB Rule 4 Draft), so don't be surpised if these draft picks are traded during the off-season.

    Keep in mind that the slot cannot be traded for cash unless it is a financial adjustment made to offset the salary of one or more of the players involved in the trade.


  • Arizona Phil 2 days 14 hours ago (view)

    The active list roster limit changes scheduled to go in effect in 2020 have not yet been officially approved. Same goes for the three-batter minimum (or else record the third out in the inning) for relief pitchers.