A Baker's Dozen of Cubs Playing Winter Ball South of the Border

In addition to the in the Arizona Fall League, 13 other Cubs minor leaguers are playing winter ball in Latin America: 

LIGA DE BEISBOL DOMINICANO (Dominican Republic):

AGUILAS
, RHP (eligible to be minor league 6YFA post-World Series)

CIBAO
, OF (was eligible to be minor league 6YFA but has signed 2019 minor league successor contract)  

ESTRELLAS
, RHP (on Cubs Restricted List - serving 80-game suspension for violation of MLB-MLBPA JDPTP)
, LHP (eligible to be minor league 6YFA post-World Series)
NOTE: Although de la Cruz is on the Cubs Restricted List and thus cannot participate in the Arizona Fall League, he is not prohibited from playing winter ball in Latin America. 

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LIGA MEXICANA DEL PACIFICO (Mexico):

CULIACAN
, RHP (eligible to be minor league 6YFA post-World Series) 

JALISCO
, RHSP 

MEXICALI
, RHRP (was loaned to Yucatan and Saltillo in Mexican League in 2018)

OBREGON
, INF (missed 2018 season after undergoing shoulder surgery)
NOTE: Sepulveda is on the Obregon reserve list and can play in LMP only if medically cleared by Cubs 

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LIGA VENEZUELA BEISBOL PROFESIONAL (Venezuela):

ANZOATEGUI
, C (was eligible to be minor league 6YFA but has signed 2019 minor league successor contract) 

CURACAS
, OF (eligible to be minor league 6YFA post-World Series) 
, RHP (eligible for selection in December 2018 Rule 5 Draft)

LARA
, LHRP (eligible for selection in December 2018 Rule 5 Draft)

MARGARITA
, LHRP (eligible for selection in December 2018 Rule 5 Draft)

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Liga de Beisbol Profesional Roberto Clemente (the Puerto Rican winter league) begins play in a about a month and rosters have not yet been announced. 

Unlike the Arizona Fall League, free agents are eligible to play in the Latin Winter Leagues, so while Baez, Coleman, Paulino, and Torrez are presently under control of the Cubs, they might not be by the time the leagues conclude play.   

In addition to the 13 Cubs minor leaguers on the rosters of Latin winter league clubs, more than 30 former Cubs major leaguers and minor leaguers are playing winter ball in Latin America as well, including INF Arismendy Alcantara, RHP Pedro Araujo, OF Junior Lake, OF Felix Pie, RHP Carlos Pimentel, RHP Ivan Pineyro, LHP David Rollins and LHP Raul Valdes (Dominican Republic), RHP Dallas Beeler, C Sergio Burruel, LHP Gerardo Concepcion, OF-IF Anthony Giansanti, RHP Aaron Kurcz, RHP Sergio Mitre, LHP James Russell, INF Issmael Salas, RHP Nick Struck, and OF Jesus Valdez (Mexico), and RHP Jose Ascanio, RHP Francisco Carrillo, INF Ronny Cedeno, LHP Hunter Cervenka, RHP Dayan Diaz, RHP Greyfer Eregua, RHP Eduardo Figueroa, INF Bryant Flete, RHP Ramon Garcia, RHP Mark Malave, RHP Jhondaniel Medina, RHP Miguel Mejia, INF Andruw Monasterio, RHP Williams Perez, and RHP Carlos Zambrano (Venezuela). 

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Sergio Mitre, wow he is still at it!?

Sergio Meat Tray!  The (almost) perfect replacement player -- Career bWAR of -0.1 -- and made $4,015,000 career earnings while doing it (not counting his draft signing bonus and minor league pittance, er, salery).

some of these guys are still trying to make it, but a lot of those "old names" playing winter ball on this level are in it knowing they're playing competitive ball in front of good fans while having some fun and that's about the best that will come of it.

i'm still waiting for the day they regularly show some of these games during the winter.  ESPN Deportes showed dominican league games about a decade ago...that was fun.

at least the Caribbean Series is televised, but that don't show up until february and it's only a week-ish long.  it's a nice warmup before spring training.

One  of my all time favorites, Ronny Cedeno.

Ronny Cedeno.

Que: Wizard of Oz (If I Only Had a Brain)

Tangent:  That was not fan interference

Joe West is usually wrong, so should have been a home run.

Is kind of amazing that he always finds his way into the headlines.  I vaguely wanted Boston to win the series, but that call just seemed absurd.  The fans leaned slightly over (as any fan would) and that ball was well over the fence.

Remember when Felix Pie was going to be something special?

Felix Pie, que: Twisted Sister song (We're Not Gonna Take It).

Remember when...

Josh Vitters

Corey Patterson

Brett Jackson

Tyler Colvin

Josh "Best High School Swing in the Country" Vitters.

I still say that Gary Scott is going to be the next Ron Santo. 

https://www.mlb.com/news/dallas-keuchel-astros-not-cubs-no-hangover/c-268266628

Keutchel: “We’re not the Cubs.“ No Cubs Hangover, 3-8-18

I’ve been thinking aboug that comment all post season.  Kinda why I’m happy they lost.

w.sox gonna let matt davidson become a 2-way player.

90mph fastball, curve, threw 3 innings last year including a g.stanton K.

neat.

Easy to second guess but putting Hader in for the 3rd, made them vulnerable later and there it is.

Different than using a starter like Becket, Sale or Madbum. More like burning a good Andrew Miller early.

i understand j.jeffress had a good season, but he's been getting hit in the post-season.  i can't believe he even sniffed an appearance in a close game with plenty of arm left in the pen.

also, here's to hoping MIL doesn't improve their SP in 2019 because the bats and pen are set to be annoying for the cubs without much tweaking to be done.

From what Smoltz was saying, some of those bullpen guys like Woodruff are supposed to be shifted into starter roles next season. For the Cubs sake, I really hope Stearns relies soley on that method to upgrade their starting rotation. He seems cheap, or doesn't get any leeway from ownership in spending more money, so I kind of believe that's what will happen. Intererstingly enough, I wonder if it could allow them to go after a guy like Manny Machado, which would be pretty funny considering what just transpired in the last week. Back to their pitching. If they do move relievers into starting roles, I wonder what their plan will be for stretching them out and allowing them to pitch through a full season, and into the playoffs. I can just imagine them being worn out by September, much less October. So that comes back to the fact that they do need to get in on signing a starting pitcher through free agency.

At this point, it's 2 straight years they've had a very good team and management has failed to upgrade the rotation to get them into the playoffs, and now the World Series. Had they added one starting pitcher like Happ or Hamels at the deadline, I think that would've taken a little pressure off the bullpen, and brought them all the way to the World Series, and maybe they'd even hoist that trophy in another week. It reminds me of the Strasburg innings limit and the assumption that they will be back in the same position in the following year. Alot can happen after an offseason; just like Cubs players seeming content and not showing the same fire of 2015 and '16, or all the injuries the Cubs battled through in 2018 that leaves a team too run down by the time the post season starts. 

Either way, I'll definitly be paying attention to what the Brewers do this offseason, because it does seem like they will be our biggest opponent in winning the Central next season. 

david bell new reds manager.

brad ausmus new angels manager.

"According to Jon Heyman of Fancred, Joe Girardi is believed to be waiting for a managerial opening with either the Cubs or White Sox."

a'ite then.

Fuck the Motherfucking Brewers:

On the same team they have -

A guy arrested for DWI and suspending for like 50 games (Jefress)

A lying, cheating, steroid user who ruined other’s careers and got suspended for nearly a year (should have been banned, period) Braun

And, a homophobic closer who gets a standing ovation praising him.

Fuck all of them and I hope we beat their asses next year.

j.jeffress vs marijuana was kinda unreal.  dude loved his green.  3 violations for 150 total games suspended...

fair or not (ahem...not), he pretty much collectively missed an entire season because of getting high.  that said, he knew what was on the line and he did it anyway.  it's worth noting they don't test for weed in the bigs.  we may not have a game to watch if they did.

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  • Hagsag 15 min 29 sec ago (view)

    Thanks for the info.

     

  • Wrigley Rat 10 hours 21 min ago (view)

    I just discovered this site: https://www.prospectslive.com/lists/2020/11/16/chi... (Sorry if you all know about it already!). 52 Cubs prospects listed with scouting reports! Really enjoying this one! :)

     

  • crunch 11 hours 41 min ago (view)

    we all knew trades were coming...getting rid of 1-2 of the core, but at this point i wonder how much (if any) of that free'd up loot is going back into the team.

     

  • Charlie 13 hours 18 min ago (view)

    He clearly did not want to be remembered for selling off the core and then walking away from the team a year later. Can't blame him.

     

  • crunch 14 hours 52 min ago (view)

    every other contender is full of rumor news for who they'll sign...and the hot cubs rumor is kris bryant won't be traded before the wednesday arb offer deadline.  wee.

     

  • Arizona Phil 17 hours 30 min ago (view)

    jdrnym: The MLB contracts that are tendered on 12/2 via Central Tender Letter are are non-guaranteed contacts.

    And a player signed to a non-guaranteed contract who is released prior to MLB Opening Day receives 30 days salary (paid at the minor league rate for players with split contracts) if the player is released more than 15 days prior to Opening Day, or 45 days salary (paid at the MLB rate for players signed to split contracts) if the player is released 15 or fewer days prior to Opening Day as termination pay. 

     

  • jdrnym 19 hours 57 min ago (view)

    If a player signs one of those deals that allows a split salary or incentives to be included, does that get treated like an arbitration salary in that it's only partially guaranteed until Opening Day?

     

  • bradsbeard 4 days 6 hours ago (view)

    Great info. Thanks! 

     

  • Arizona Phil 4 days 6 hours ago (view)

    BRADSBEARD: What happens on 12/2 is each club submits what's called a "Central Tender Letter" to the MLB LRD listing which unsigned players on the club's MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) are being tendered a contract and which unsigned players are not being tendered a contract. 

    The CTL is sufficient as far as providing proof of contract tender.  

    For players being tendered contracts, the CTL must list the club's MLB salary offer, a minor league split salary offer (if the club so chooses), and performance bonuses (if any) the club is offering to the player.

     

  • crunch 4 days 14 hours ago (view)

    theo walked away from a big payday for an executive in his last season as a cub without having another job scoped out...and according to him he's not even looking one.

    something tells me this isn't going to be a fun off-season for cubs fans.

    the state of the cubs household aside, i wouldn't exactly be shocked to see theo with the mets, though he's supposedly not on their radar at the moment.

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 4 days 15 hours ago (view)

    The Cubs have been at the forefront of tone-deaf owners in terms of financial hardship during the pandemic. "The game isn't as profitable as most people think"

     

  • tim815 5 days 12 hours ago (view)

    The decision on the amount comes later.

     

  • bradsbeard 5 days 15 hours ago (view)

    At the point when the team makes the initial contract tender, do they have to offer a specific salary, and if so is that the same number the team takes into arbitration? Or does the specific number the teams files at for arbitration happen at a later date?

     

  • Arizona Phil 5 days 17 hours ago (view)

    jdrnym: A player who is signed to a contract that does not include a minor league split salary is paid his full MLB salary while optioned or after being outrighted to a minor league club.

    So if a player goes to arbitration and is awarded (let's say) a $2.5M salary by the arb panel, the contract will not include a minor league split salary or performance bonuses, and if the player is sent to the minors he is paid the full $2.5M while in the minors.

     

  • Hagsag 5 days 19 hours ago (view)

    Maybe Trump can give them a loan.

     

  • crunch 5 days 19 hours ago (view)

    it's not exactly looking good when the cubs brass is complaining about "losing 100m in revenue" when a huge chunk of that seems to include Hotel Zachary.  it looks like the entire "entertainment complex" is the cubs as far as the Ricketts are concerned...and the team might have to suffer a bit because they couldn't fully realize profits last year.  they've publically stated that the big incoming tax credits from the city they're going to realize for stadium work won't help the cubs payroll.