Game 160 Thread / Cubs @ Reds (1 of 3)

Game Chat : BR Preview : Game Notes Carlos Zambrano vs. Bronson Arroyo Lineups:
Soriano LF Hopper CF
Kendall C Keppinger SS
Lee 1B Votto 1B
Floyd RF Phillips 2B
Ramirez 3B Encarnacion 3B
DeRosa 2B Valentin C
Jones CF Coats LF
Theriot SS Ellison RF
Zambrano P Arroyo P
The hopes of all Cubdom rest on the broad shoulders of Zambrano, who has pitched well in three of his last four starts. The clinker in that bunch, unfortunately, was a 5-2 loss to the Reds, who have already beaten Carlos four times this season. Zambrano's strikeout numbers are down significantly in '07; he's had particular trouble missing Cincinnati bats (just 11 K in 28 2/3 IP). Importantly, though, Adam Dunn, Ken Griffey, and Josh Hamilton--combined 1.112 OPS against Zambrano this year--are all sitting this one out with injuries. Arroyo, meanwhile, was the Reds starter Monday before last, when the Cubs stormed back against the Cincy bullpen to win 7-6. The curveball-throwin', guitar-strummin' Arroyo is 0-2 with 2 ND's against the Cubs this year, but he has fanned 29 while walking just 10 in 33 2/3 IP. Given the events of the past three days, Zambrano's inconsistency, Arroyo's occasional success against the Cubs, and the dispiriting facts of Chicago Cub history, I think this game shapes up like yet another, tense tug of war. On the other hand, the Reds are severely depleted and have lost five games in a row. And oh, yeah--we do have one of our aces going tonight. In Milwaukee. We're all pulling for you, Greg.


Nice two-hole hitter, Dusty.

I predict Kendall will get hit by a pitch...and they'll find out the pitcher was ordered to do it by Ned Yost

Kendall 3/12 vs Arroyo 250/308/250 fwiw Guess he wants contact in the 2 spot although generally Kendall does well at getting on-base.

James Monroe was the fifth president of the United States. Tonight, I'll be claiming my fifth RBI in a Cubs uni. Sick. Fives are wild tonight. My boy Kendall is going to allow five stolen bases too. Sick. Theriot's gonna come through. He's scrappy.

now this an impressive record... Ryan Howard surpassed Dunn for most K's in a season and almost 20 less games.

lost in the "humor" of craig monroe is the somewhat sad fact that he is the RH 3-position OF'r. pie never filled the role of a 3-position OF'r, though his arm would probably let him and he's an excessive lefty given team strength anyway. yeah, he's probably playoff bound outta necessity of tools.

The Cubs are SO going to WIN, tonight. QED.

Ryan Howard: .265 / .391 / .571 44 HR 130 RBI's 517 AB's - 106 BB's - 197 K's Adam Dunn: .264 / .386 / .554 40 HR 106 RBI's 522 AB's - 101 BB's - 165 K's

interesting numbers, wtf are they? Dunn set the record last year in a 160 games and 683 PA's Howard set the record this year in 141 games (so far) and 635 PA's.

Oh, lordy, that Arroyo music. I knew it was out there, but never forced myself to listen before. Good god. If only he pitched as crappy as that. Seriously, Cubs, please, for the love of God and on behalf of music lovers everywhere, hit this guy hard tonight.

I'm supremely confident we will wrap this up today or tomorrow. But, the pressure is the same as the last two days, and a win today is very important. With Harang going tomorrow, we do not want to be only 1 game ahead. Let's win today, and count on the Brewers losing 1 of the next 2 and we'll have it wrapped.

actually my bad Dunn set the record in 2004, 681 PA's and 195 K's

Seth McClung got his suspension wiped out, how'd that happen? Did he sell out Ned Yost or something?

Crunch, JJ should have been pinch hit for yesterday. Pie could have filled in defensively. We needed plate discipline up there against an erratic Pinto. We needed that run. It's really sad how Pie's become invisible to Piniella. I was thinking today about how horrible the bunting has become at the major league level. The epidemic has spread to every team. Imagine if Corey Patterson had actually been a good bunter. Or if Pie was good with it today.

Rob, Craig Monroe was supplying this year's numbers. Bruce Miles with some Lou love/Dusty bashing Theriot as co-MVP is a bit much.

I'm pitching for Cincy tonight. Weird. I'm supposed to be the first guy out of the bullpen. I don't quite understand it, but hey! I'm in!

Well, bunting really helps guys like Pierre who hit a lot of groundballs anyway, because it pulls the corner infielders in. Pie and Patterson strike out a lot, so it the first basemen and third basemen can sit in the dugout when they're batting.

yeah, got that they were this year's numbers, didn't understand what you were going for with Dunn's numbers from this season. Whatever...moving on. You can just go by Mike from your blog fwiw -


I was thinking today, that if the Cubs win, and then Maddux beats the Brewers, the answer to the trivia question 'who was the winning pitcher when the Cubs clinched the division in 2007' would be Greg Maddux.

Craig Monroe is the Bad News Cubs guy? Bummer.

Bunting was once a legitimate weapon in baseball, when used correctly. It's a shame few of the speedsters are skilled with it anymore. Rob, I wasn't making a point with the Howard/Dunn numbers. They're just interesting. Very similar outside of RBI's and K's.

re #23 I love how you got busted and now try to act like a human. pwned

no worries Mike, Cubs just got me antsy these days.

I'll drink to what Chad said.

top 3 batters in lineup for houston. .334 .333 .333 Think they have some kinda bet on who ends the season with the highest average?

according to, every position player on the Reds 40-man roster is with the team. Seems a bit excessive.

Just saw a Ward interview on Cubs pregame... Says his thumb does hurt, but he is available to PH tonight. Said he was available to the best of his understanding, which was contradictory to a report Rob posted earlier.

"Seems a bit excessive." eh, why not for the last weekend of the season?

just regurgitated a Sun-Times blurb The Cubs could be without their top pinch hitter for the final regular-season series, depending on how quickly Daryle Ward recovers from a sprain near the base of his left thumb. Ward, who suffered the injury sliding into second base after legging out a double Wednesday night, wore a splint and heavy wrap Thursday that went halfway up his forearm. The usually affable Ward didn't want to talk about the injury. He's batting .330, including 11-for-40 (.275) as a pinch hitter. guess it healed quickly....

Actually Chad, I acted like a human yesterday. But, if my site need be plugged so be it. I'll thank Rob. Fans can find excellent Cubs content here: (If that doesn't show up, the link is above.) The site viewership is indeed growing. I just wanted to stop by for old times, 2004 was a special year... In Dusty We Trusty!!! That was the year we learned the importance of the leadoff man... and that you never force a setup man to close if he isn't made for it. This is the year we learned defense at catcher, and its grave importance. Damn, it was fun going as Craig Mac for a bit... for those who remember the rapper. It's also nice to see Arizona Phil going strong... the greatest presence in the Cubs blogging world.

"Uy uy uy… The Fucking Florida Marlins" It's Oy, oy, oy. FWIW

Chad, (laughing)... I'm in the family also... and have never pronounced the excessive 'oy' sound. When I say it, it phonetically sounds like 'uy'. But, I appreciate the tip.

"guess it healed quickly…." Do we know he is available?

it's "tribe" not "family" FWIW :-)

Funny, blockhead. Are you referring to the culture or the religion? Er...

Is that a trick question? For what it's worth, I too am part of the family/tribe/religion/culture.

It's the sound of one hand clapping.

Interesting lineup.

One down, five more Runs to go for Soriano to reach 100.

Reds announcers talking about Carlos Zambrano looking like his pitches are slower and his arm angle lower than earlier this year. But as we all remember, that was his problem in the spring.

Wow, Florida jumps right out to a 2-0 lead vs. the Mets.

Need a lot of runs tonight. For gosh sakes' make Arroyo throw a lot of pitches and make him work. Let's grind out some ABs.

I can't believe I pay for the privilege of watching ads for 'The FInal Season' every 10 minutes.

oh oh, Z is getting all wobbly I hate it when that happens

Gotta love those outfield assists from Soriano!

Oh Yeah! DLee!

Breathing normally now

"Seth McClung got his suspension wiped out, how’d that happen?" Rob, It looked likes according to the AP that McClung proved to MLB he sucks as a pitcher.;_ylt=Aow634S...

Z's pitch count way down. Perhaps he can go deep in this game. Milwaukee up 2-0

Big strikeout to end the 6th. Attaboy Big Z.

Padres now up 3-2 in the 4th.

Forgot to mention. Capuano pitching

Jones's ball to left answers a question from earlier in the season: yes, Coats plays the wall like a converted infielder.

In other news, Bruce Froemming can still bite me. Runner at 1st, 1 down, grounder to third, nice throw gets the runner by a half-step, but the ump who should have retired a long time ago called him safe - so 1st and 2nd, 1 down, instead of runner at 2nd, 2 down.

Maddog gets Braun to ground into a DP to end the threat...


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  • Arizona Phil 11 hours 5 min ago (view)

    Dillon Maples does not have the right to elect free-agency if he is outrighted to the minors, but he will be automatically declared an MLB Rule 9 6YFA at 5 PM Eastern on the 5th day after the final game of the World Series if he is not added back to the 40 in the meantime. 


  • crunch 11 hours 19 min ago (view)

    p.wisdom is the new cubs all-time rookie HR leader.


  • Arizona Phil 12 hours 36 min ago (view)

    The Cubs will very likely be splitting the AZIL position players into two 14-man squads (like they did last year), with each squad playng in every other-game, and with the other squad having a Camp Day instructional work-out on a back-field when that squad is not playing in a game. There will also be five combined Camp Days during the course of the four weeks for all players from both squads.  


  • Arizona Phil 12 hours 58 min ago (view)

    DJL: No. Signing a 2022 minor league successor contract would only matter with regard to a player in the Arizona Fall League, because the AFL schedule goes past the date when minor leaguers are declared free-agents. 

    AZ Instructs ends on October 16th, which is about two or three weeks before minor league free-agency, so the three guys at Cubs Instructs who are eligible to be free-agehts after the World Series (Dakota Chalmers. Nicholas Padilla, and Eury Ramos) do not need to sign successor contracts in order to play in AZIL games. 


  • Dolorous Jon Lester 15 hours 3 min ago (view)

    Sorry to hear about your dad, Charlie. I lost my father almost 2 years ago now, some of my fondest childhood memories are going to Wrigley with him.

    All the best wishes to you, sir.


  • First.Pitch.120 15 hours 17 min ago (view)

    If you had Bote in the '11-'12- '13 Cubs draft dead pool, then you are a winner!


  • Dolorous Jon Lester 15 hours 50 min ago (view)

    Dakota Chalmers... interesting. He's scheduled to be a MILB FA, correct? Would this be a good sign he has signed a successor deal?


  • Cubster 16 hours 24 min ago (view)

    Maples dfa. Double Martini too.  Hoerner and Thompson back and Keegan to start today. Hoerner bats 5th.


  • crunch 16 hours 33 min ago (view)

    it's never a good time to be in the hospital, but things are extra complicated right now.

    hope everything goes well for everyone.

    go cubs


  • Charlie 1 day 9 hours ago (view)

    Listening to this in a hospital room because we are blacked out on I don't know which surprises me more, that the Cubs haven't beaten the Brewers since April or that the Cubs beat the Brewers in April.


  • crunch 2 days 9 hours ago (view)

    m.rodriguez to 10d IL, a.morgan returns.


  • Jackstraw 2 days 19 hours ago (view)

    I like that the team was absolutely committed to not losing back-to-back games on a walk-off passed ball.


  • Eric S 3 days 5 hours ago (view)

    And the funny thing is Rucker was the only Cubs pitcher tonight to post 0 runs allowed in the box score. You know things are really out of hand when Ross gives the okay for a Maples appearance.


  • George Altman 3 days 6 hours ago (view)

    AZ Phil,

    Is there a reason Preciado hasn't been in an ACL game in about a month?


  • crunch 3 days 8 hours ago (view)

    i'd like the 2021 version of whatever d.ross is smoking bringing m.rucker into a bases loaded, 2 run lead in the 4th situation.

    dude saw the situation and said "gimmie that guy with the 8.44era 1.59whip" as the first pen option to protect a lead.

    rucker has been in 13 games and given up runs in 8 of them.


  • crunch 3 days 8 hours ago (view)

    hendricks last 7 starts...

    9er, 1er, 4er, 8er, 6er, 1er, 7er

    3.68era - 1.29whip 4.81era - 1.35whip