Golden Gloves

Awards season has started and a Cub walked away with some gold glove hardware. This is Derrek Lee's third glove of the golden variety and while he probably didn't deserve it (most metrics show Albert Pujols as the superior NL first basemen), he won nonetheless. The full list: American League P - Johan Santana C - Ivan Rodriguez 1B - Kevin Youklis 2B - Placido Polanco SS - Orlando Cabrera 3B - Adrian Beltre OF - Torii Hunter, Grady Sizemore, Ichiro Suzuki National League P - Greg Maddux (Gold Glove #17, you have a sense he'll still be collecting these after he retires) C - Russ Martin 1B - Derrek Lee 2B - Orlando Hudson SS - Jimmy Rollins 3B - David Wright OF - Carlos Beltran, Andruw Jones, Jeff Francouer/Aaron Rowand (the two tied in voting) I don't have access today to the usual defensive metrics I follow, but for the most part that seems about right other than Ryan Braun should have won for NL third basemen (I kid, I kid). Last time I did check, Troy Tulowitzki was way ahead among NL shortstops but they don't give Gold Gloves to rookies. Congrats to Derrek Lee! ----- Also a quick update that Bruce Levine on ESPN 1000 is reporting that Ryan Dempster will be moved into the starting rotation for next season. I'm going to just hope that he gets traded before it ever actually gets there. UPDATE: What some of the defensive metrics say about the NL gold glove winners after the jump.... The Hardball Times RZR: NL 1B - Pujols (Lee was 5th) 2B - Brandon Phillips (Hudson was 9th) SS - Omar Vizquel (Rollins was 9th) 3B - Pedro Feliz (Wright was 5th, Aramis was 4th) OF - Andruw Jones, Carlos Beltran, Eric Byrnes Defensive Win Shares calculated at The Hardball Times C- Chris Snyder (Martin 2nd) 1B - Derrek Lee (Pujols 5th) 2B - Brandon Phillips (Hudson 2nd) SS - Troy Tulowitzki (Rollins 9th) 3B - Ryan Zimmerman (Wright 3rd, Aramis 2nd) OF - Andruw Jones, Chris Young, Carlos Beltran Baseball Prospectus RAA2 (Runs Above Average) (I don't know a way to sort this so I just checked some of the top players, if you find someone that rates higher, let me know.) C- Yadier Molina (21) 1B - Albert Pujols (24) 2B - Brandon Phillips (27) SS - Troy Tulowitzki (31) 3B - Aramis Ramirez (25) OF - Eric Byrnes (22), Jacque Jones (13 in CF), Alfonso Soriano (21) John Dewan's +/- System 1B - Albert Pujols (+37) 2B - Chase Utley (+22) SS - Troy Tulowitzki (+35) 3B - Pedro Feliz (+27) OF - Eric Byrnes (+28), Carlos Beltran (+25 ), Andruw Jones (+24) Some of these aren't very fair comparisions as they'll compare left fielders to other left fielders and so forth and I bunched them up like the Gold Glove awards do into just outfielders. I think the awards should be separated into LF, CF and RF myself, but for some reason the Gold Glove committee hasn't caught on quite yet.


David Wright gold glove---that's a joke---21 errrors and fielding % of .954-----ARam---10 errors and fielding % of .972----I know Wright had 100 more chances, but the fielding % tells the better defender

GG a joke? r.palmeiro disagrees.

background for those that may not know... in 99 palmeiro won the GG (after winning it 2 years prior somewhat legitimately) after playing a grand total of 28 games there. the people who claimed the voters barely paid attention to the game, itself, and voted on name-brand popularity were given a gift of proof that couldnt have been more properly packaged and delivered than that incident.

Who votes on the Golden Glove awards?

GG is a joke for the most part but David Wright did deserve it. Fielding percentage/errors are an extremely flawed way of measuring defense.

is it managers? or managers and coaches?

In the ESPN article, it says Managers and coaches... so, how many coaches, I wonder? Is it just the pitching coach, or would it include the hitting coach, first base coach, third base coach, roving baserunning instructor, etc?

I'm looking at some of the defensive numbers and I might have been wrong about David Wright, seems Ryan Zimmerman or Pedro Feliz were better options. And Aramis and him were neck and neck.

Trading Dempster sounds fine to me. Or if Dempster is moved into the rotation, I would be fine also if that meant Marquis gets traded. Otherwise, I'm not so hot on that idea. The rotation would then be Z, Lilly, Hill, Marquis, Dempster? That's not as good as the 2007 rotation, is it?

I updated the post fwiw with some info on defensive ratings...

oh yeah, apparently that same radio report said Wood, Howry and Marmol would battle for the closer duties in spring training if Wood is re-signed.

Romero: "Trading Dempster sounds fine to me. Or if Dempster is moved into the rotation, I would be fine also if that meant Marquis gets traded." I agree. Having both Marquis and Dempster in the rotation is a recipe for disaster, IMO. I think next year Marquis will only get worse and Dempster will be right in line with his previous career starting numbers. quotes from Beinfest, Dombrowski, Hendry about how Arod doesn't make sense financially.

one of the cub starters are get traded probally marshall although there are a couple others that would be better. maybe we can attach marshall to either dempster or marquis

if hendry wanted to trade dempster he could probably find 29 takers (unless he's injured). guy makes 5.5m and is on the hook for 1 year...j.piniero started off the 08 FA season snagging a 2yr/13m deal.

The thing about fielding metrics for first basemen is that they don't include error prevention of the other infielders, where Lee reigns supreme. My recollection is that the Cubs had very few throwing errors. I don't know a site that shows that but I would be extremely suprised if they didn't have the fewest in the league.

Real Neal, you may be right on that and maybe that explains it. I was actually a bit surprised when I found out DLee won. Maybe I'm getting jaded from watching him play, but he seemed to be a step slow all season around the bag. There were many plays in which I thought to myself, "he would have made that play two years ago." Maybe he just raised the bar so high in '04 and '05 that even his '07 version couldn't measure up.

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  • Arizona Phil 2 hours 42 min ago (view)

    Beginning in 2019, a club must wait a minimum of seven days before it can place a player who was claimed off Outtright Assignment Waivers during the off-season back onto waivers, so because he was claimed off waivers on Wednesday 11/27, yesterday (Wednesday 12/4) was the first day the Cubs could place LHRP C. D. Pelham back onto Outright Assignment Waivers, and so tomorrow (Friday 12/6) is the first day the Cubs can send Pelham outright to the minors (if he was placed back onto waivers yesterday).


  • Arizona Phil 23 hours 29 min ago (view)

    A Competitive Balance draft slot can be traded only during a period of time starting on December 2nd and extending up until two hours prior to the MLB First-Year Player Draft (MLB Rule 4 Draft), so don't be surpised if these draft picks are traded during the off-season.

    Keep in mind that the slot cannot be traded for cash unless it is a financial adjustment made to offset the salary of one or more of the players involved in the trade.


  • Arizona Phil 23 hours 31 min ago (view)

    The active list roster limit changes scheduled to go in effect in 2020 have not yet been officially approved. Same goes for the three-batter minimum (or else record the third out in the inning) for relief pitchers. 


  • Arizona Phil 23 hours 34 min ago (view)

    And then the active list roster limit will expand from 26 to 28 on September 1st (max 14 pitchers in September). 


  • Arizona Phil 23 hours 37 min ago (view)

    The "26th man" who was added for doubleheaders will now be the "27th man" and he can be a pitcher. 


  • crunch 1 day 5 hours ago (view)

    ATL signs cole hamels 1/18m...a'ite then.

    also, z.wheeler 5/100+ to the phillies.


  • Charlie 1 day 21 hours ago (view)

    I think without the off-field issues, a front-office might at least be tempted to gamble on Russell's youth and dreams of his upside. But with what we all know about him now, the challenges of improving both on and off the field are too great to gamble on.


  • George Altman 2 days 11 hours ago (view)

    This was the easiest non-tender decision, maybe ever. As if there weren't enough off-field reasons alone, there were even more baseball reasons. He became a sub .700 OPS hitter with bottom of the order OBA results. His defense, formerly his strength, became inconsistent due to attention deficit issues. He turned himself into bench infielder with suspect skills which is someone you don't pay more than $1--1.5M/yr.


  • crunch 3 days 26 min ago (view)

    he was due for a 3.5-4m payday (3.4m last year) at a minimum, anyway.

    it's as good of a time as any to cut him loose.  nico hoener's spring just became a lot more important.


  • Craig A. 3 days 42 min ago (view)

    Addison Russell, to no one's surprise, was  non-tendered. I still think he has the talent to excel in the major leagues, but it'll take a new attitude for him to realize his potential. It can't be easy to deal with his baggage in front of millions of fans. I won't forget his contributions in 2016, or that beautiful play that used to be the banner of TCR.


  • crunch 4 days 19 hours ago (view)

    keuchel doesn't have draft pick compensation attached to him and he's a decent enough ground ball pitcher...that will be attractive to a lot of clubs.  that would put 3 lefties in the cubs rotation (pending a trade) again, though.  not sure they want to go for that look again.

    that said, i still imagine the cubs are probably looking to make this thing happen via trade.  it's hard to tell what their $$ situation is, but they've done a great job signaling they're not looking to spend $$ this offseason.


  • Dolorous Jon Lester 5 days 1 hour ago (view)

    Looking for impact starting pitchers, but won't be shopping at the top of the market? So I guess they won't be in the market for impact starting pitching.

    Still hoping they find a taker for Q.


  • crunch 5 days 3 hours ago (view)

    "Patrick Mooney of The Athletic writes the Cubs are in the market for impact starting pitchers but won't be shopping at the top of the market."

    darvish, lester, hendricks, Q, (???, a.mills, t.chatwood)...pending trades

    d.keuchel?  r.porcello?  trade target pitcher?


  • Arizona Phil 5 days 4 hours ago (view)

    HAGSAG: I suspect going into his age 30 season and coming off a great year as a pinch-hitter, LaStella wanted a chance to be an everyday player, and since that obviously wasn't going to happen if he stayed with the Cubs, TLS (or his agent) may have asked the Cubs to trade him somewhere he could get that opportunity.


  • crunch 5 days 4 hours ago (view)

    dunno any official reasoning, but his D is miserable and they decided to "upgrade" there with descalso for similar loot as well as getting a trade piece back.  the whole a.russell thing was lingering over the team.

    it's not like descalso is great with the glove, but la stella plays a miserable 2nd and meh 3rd.

    i do wonder if things would have turned out differently if russell wasn't due to miss significant time.


  • Sonicwind75 5 days 8 hours ago (view)

    Was just thinking about this, maybe that isn't a good thing for TLS?  I wonder if Maddon will use TLS differently after seeing his success last year.  That's my gripe with people complaining about Theo trading away a player that turns into an All Star.  If TLS had stayed with the Cubs, Maddon would most likely kept using him in the same manner and with the same results.