Kerry As Kloser? Krazy

Jim Hendry acknowledges that Kerry Wood will have to show he can occasionally pitch on three consecutive days to become a full-fledged closer. But can he even pitch on two? Woody pitched in both ends of the 9/15 doubleheader in St. Louis, but other than that, he never pitched in consecutive days in ’07; in half of his 22 appearances, he was going on two, three or four days rest. The Cubs also saved Kerry for the low-leverage innings. In fact, according to Fangraphs, Wood pitched, on average, in lower leverage situations than any other Cub pitchers, except young Gallagher, Petrick, Pignatiello and Marshall (relief appearances only.) The stat I’m drawing on here is Average Leverage Index per plate appearance, which measures the possible change in win probability due to the result of any one at-bat. Wood’s pLI was 0.52; Marmol (1.19), Howry (1.44), and Dempster (1.57) were dealing with entirely different stress levels altogether. I thought the Cubs handled Wood well after his return from the DL in early August. He contributed, and he didn’t get hurt. But if he really does get the closer’s job, I don’t think either will be the case for very long in ’08.

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Real Player is evil... they put a lot of uneccesary crap on your computer. ---- So you planning to save those PSA's to show the family at Christmas?

Yup! I sent it to my brother and my pastor friend.

Real player is better than media player...and I can't use ITunes to put music on my phone.

*dave says: November 28th, 2007 at 3:44 pm It’s amazing to me that people will complain about a guy’s “performance” all year long and then forget about all the ulcers a month after the playoffs end. Please show me where I complained about Dempster’s performance. Since it occurred “all year long,” it shouldn’t be too hard to be one or two examples, right? And are you really trying to compare closers by the numbers of saves that they had? * I said "people", not "Dave". You can compare any number of Dempster's stats to those who had more saves than he did as well. He usually is behind them. I think one of the top ten NL saves leaders had a higher WHIP, for example--the rest were lower. It's not a "straw man" argument to say that Dempster is overpaid for what he provides--nor is it illogical to state that a cheaper alternative exists and the resultant savings could be invested in something more useful. What part of that is difficult to understand?

nicht=blargh=no if anyone didn't realize it yet...

re 200 and 201 200 - please explain how 201 - i tried that site and it never works for me. what up wit dat?

I have the latest Real, so don't know if that matters or not, but... Go to Tools, Preferences. At the bottom left is Downloading & Recording. Check the box to Enable Web Recording. You'll probably need to reset your browser then.

Mr. nicht seems to be a negative guy -- nicht is German for "not". "No" speaks for itself. Don't think "blargh" is any recognized language, but I could be wrong...

Oh yeah...then set your options and stuff. I've got it set to download any web video when I Right Click.

Strangely enough, it's dutch for "yes".

Moreno pissed at the Marlins... http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/news/article... "They're asking for four Major League players -- three Major League players and a pitcher, or two pitchers and two players. He is arbitration-eligible this year -- $12 million-plus -- and then you've got to re-sign him."

same article... "We got so fond of one player, and then the market moved away from us," he said, referring to the Angels' pursuit last winter of free agent Alfonso Soriano, who signed with the Chicago Cubs. "I don't want to do something that sets us back. We made an unbelievable move with Torii Hunter and didn't give away any of our kids."

I said “people”, not “Dave”. Right... yet, somehow, you quoted me right before you said it. But yea - it all makes sense now. Some how. It’s not a “straw man” argument to say that Dempster is overpaid for what he provides I never said it was. Go re-read what I wrote. You seem to have problems reading and comprehending what people write. The "strawman" was when you implied that I said Dempster was "lights out." Do you even know what a "strawman" is? It is when you setup an argument that you can easily prove wrong, even though no one is making such an argument. You should read up on it, because you sure do it often. blah blah blah... What part of that is difficult to understand? Nothing. I never said anything about the possibility that the Cubs could have gotten similar production out of the closer position for less money, did I? Again - go back and read and try a little harder to comprehend. I said that Dempster was paid fairly, and wasn't a waste of money. I said nothing about whether or not someone else could have done it cheaper. But keep arguing with yourself. Because you sure aren't saying anything about what is actually being said around here.

“We got so fond of one player, and then the market moved away from us,” he said, referring to the Angels’ pursuit last winter of free agent Alfonso Soriano, who signed with the Chicago Cubs. --- damn...its not like soriano got signed in january or something.

"nicht=blargh=no if anyone didn’t realize it yet…" =HEY nicht=blargh=no=HEY=quiteodd

I want to go by 5 different names and flame the shit out of everybody too....

hmmm...my findings show the IP address that "hey" was using commented a few times as a "no" but different than IP and email than the nicht/blargh/no....

Reuters report that Trib will release financial data on the Cubs in January to prospective buyers.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10500884/rss some concerns over Rincon's elbow that might hold up the Garza/Young deal.

If Jimbo was willing to include either Hill or Marmol in a deal for Crawford, then why not include one of them in a deal for Young. Hill/Cedeno/Wuertz or Gallagher/Cedeno/Marmol is way better hell even Gallagher/Cedeno/Wuertz is a better for TB than Garza/Bartlett/Rincon. Why not add Prior and Epatt to the Gallager/Cedeno/Wuertz package? TB goes and then flips Prior for 2 decent prospects and they can turn Young into 6 decnt young players. I know he isnt Left-handed, but he can mash and play a solid RF for minium wage for 2 years and 2 years of below market cost.

finally...a Cubs/Johann rumor http://www.nypost.com/seven/11282007/sports/y... The Mets are said by rival executives to badly want Santana, but they have taken Jose Reyes and David Wright off the table and there is serious doubt if they have the wherewithal to make a deal unless the Twins have a particularly high regard for Carlos Gomez and Mike Pelfrey. A young center fielder such as Gomez or Cabrera is a must in this trade as the Twins look to replace Torii Hunter, who recently signed with the Angels. The Red Sox (Jacoby Ellsbury/Coco Crisp), the Dodgers (Matt Kemp) and the Angels (Reggie Willets) are all expected to vie for Santana, and an NL executive said to watch out for the Cubs (Felix Pie) and perhaps the Mariners (Adam Jones).

same article says.. The Yankees have learned in the past 24-48 hours that the initial asking price by the Twins is exorbitant, well beyond just the Phil Hughes/Melky Cabrera level that had been generally anticipated.

Here is a far out fantasy trade out of my wildest dreams: CHC gets: Santana and Young MIN gets: Headley, Hill, Epatt, Gomes, Gallagher SD gets: Prior, Pie, Murton TB gets: Garza, Cedeno, Wuertz Granted it as as much chance of happening as Amy Winehouse winning role model of the year, but every team has there needs met in it. We upgrade from Hill to Santana and pick up a RF stud in Young. SD gets Prior, Pie, and Murton who they like and have asked for in the past. With Koumanoff holding down 3rd, Headley is expendable and fills there 3 biggest holes (SP, CF,LF). MIN uses Santana and Garza not only only to get suitable pieces to replace them in Hill and Gallagher, but also fills its 3 biggest holes in this deal (3b,CF, and LF). Also for adding a player they really do not seem to care about in Gomes they can upgrade from Rincon/Bartlett to Cedeno and Wuertz. Longoria should be ready by the break so they can sign a cheap RF until he is ready and they can flip Upton to the OF.

Wait Chifan! We can't give up Murton for Young. Cause Murton is the core of a winning baseball team. He does Sabermetric things. Young just hits the shit out of the ball. Who needs another guy who strikes out 100 times while hitting 35 home runs and driving in 100 runs?

I thought I had read somewhere that Haren was available for the right price. Anyone heard any rumors speculating about what the "right price" is?

According to Rotoworld, the Delmon Young trade is done. ---------------------------- Twins acquired Rays acquired OF Delmon Young, INF Brendan Harris and OF Jason Pridie from the Rays for RHP Matt Garza, SS Jason Bartlett and RHP Eduardo Morlan.

Chifan, Its a great deal for the Cubs, but your idea that Hill and Gallagher would be "suitable replacements" for Santana and Garza is comical to say the least.

Meh, I wouldn't be thrilled with that deal. You're essentially giving up $20M/year in salary, two high level prospects, a solid outfielder, and a solid bullpen arm just to upgrade two positions where you already have cheap, young, high potential players. There'd still be holes in CF (or RF, depending on where Young goes) and SS, and you'd no longer have the salary or tradebait to fill either.

rich hill's market value is pretty damn high even if he's not on santana's level...for comparison. even if you're trading up for someone its hard to not look forward to 2-3 more guarenteed cheap r.hill years.

AL Leaders Stolen Bases Player SB 1t Carl Crawford 50 1t Brian Roberts 50 3 Chone Figgins 41 4t Corey Patterson 37 4t Ichiro Suzuki 37 6t Julio Lugo 33 6t Grady Sizemore 33 8 Jerry Owens 32 9 Coco Crisp 28 10t Johnny Damon 27 More Stats NL Leaders Stolen Bases Player SB 1 Jose Reyes 78 2 Juan Pierre 64 3 Hanley Ramirez 51 4 Eric Byrnes 50 5 Jimmy Rollins 41 6 Shane Victorino 37 7 David Wright 34 8 Willy Taveras 33 9t Kazuo Matsui 32 9t Brandon Phillips 32

From MLBTR Crasnick reports there would be huge interest in Mark Prior if the Cubs non-tender him. As in, pretty much every team in baseball. Crasnick's source indicates that Prior and the Cubs don't have the best relationship. Crasnick spoke to Doug Melvin and confirmed that Claudio Vargas and Chris Capuano will not be non-tendered. But they could definitely be traded. The Cubs are listening to offers for Jason Marquis, who is owed $16.25MM over 2008-09. So maybe they are still in on Kuroda.

Vorare, In the OF Fuld and Young>>>>>>>Murton and Pie. Fuld has Murton's best tangibles good contact hitter and solid OBP, but he combines that with being a top notch base stealer and gold glove defense. Young is proven hitter whereas Pie is not and he is a solid RF'er. As for SS Cedeno is not better than Theriot or most likely to be a Cub Kaz Matsui. However he is better than Jason Bartlett. Wuetz while solid is still our 4th best RHP in the pen and can be easily replaced by Petrick. Who is more likely to get more wins in the next 3 years Santana and any pitcher or Gallagher and Hill? I'll take Santana. Bleeding Blue, By "suitable replacements" I meant good enough to justify the gain of Headley, Epatt, and Gomes to fix that moribly bad line-up they had last year. Hill has proven to be at minium a MLB no .3 starter, which is something you cant say about Hughes, Bucholtz, Pelfrey, or Lester yet. Also they gave up Garza for no pitching replacement at all so even to get Gallagher would have bolstered their staff.

well the Twins getting Delmon Young shoots my Hill, Pie, Murton offer out the window...shucks. I wonder if they'd be interested in DeRosa, said they're looking for a third basemen and second basemen and he's got a relatively affordable contract. They'd probably still be interested in a shortstop because Brendan Harris is a poor excuse for one.

" Young just hits the shit out of the ball. Who needs another guy who strikes out 100 times while hitting 35 home runs " Murton had a higher Slugging % and a higher ISO Slugging than Young last year. For their careers young has 16 HR's in 771 AB's. Murton has 28 in 830. I won't argue that eventually Young is going to be a better hitter, but for 2008 I would put my money on Murton. Maybe Murton can be used as part of a trade to get Blanton or Haren, which can then be expanded to get Santana.

The cubs would be lucky to get cash considerations for Mark Prior. He is finished. Forever. And Ever. And Ever. And Ever. And Ever. Let us never speak of him again.

Neal I don't know if you are still reading this but I will bet you that Delmon Young will out slug matt murton for the rest of their careers. AND that Delmon will crush Murton in total homers and RBIs. Now, you might say that Young will get more at bats and that its not a fair comparison and I will tell you that Young gets more at bats cause he's a much better player.

I doubt you'll find many people arguing that Young will outhit Murton over their careers Chad and that's not what Neal was saying.

No Rob, I'm talking about starting next year, in every year, barring injury.

fair enough, my guess is they'd hit about the same next year. Young is still just 22. But then of course i have no idea what's in store for Murton at this point.

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  • crunch 6 hours 38 min ago (view)

    a loss is a loss, and there's more than a few of them with various people at fault...but kimbrel giving the cubs 4 losses in 22.2ip when given a lead to work with is some kind of special for a guy getting $16m a year to throw 60-70 innings.

     

  • Arizona Phil 7 hours 9 min ago (view)

    Criaig Kimbrel has allowed nine HR in 22.2 IP, and Rowan Wick is the only pitcher who has thrown as many as 33 IP in MLB in 2019 who has yet to allow a HR. 

     

  • crunch 8 hours 40 min ago (view)

    brewers win.

    14 wins in their last 16 games.

     

  • Arizona Phil 9 hours 57 min ago (view)

    I think what we saw with Joe Maddon and the Cubs players in 2019 is what happens when an audience has seen a comedian one too many times and the same old jokes that used to be hilarious just aren't funny anymore. Joe needs to find a new audience. 

     

  • crunch 10 hours 48 min ago (view)

    along with that, i'm not sure how maddon will adapt to not being able to use 6-15 pitchers in a 9 inning game once that's history.  it seems to be hard-wired into his managing DNA.  it's a bit of an exageration to say he wouldn't adapt, but his extremely "hands on" bullpen management seems to be one of his things.

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 11 hours 7 min ago (view)

    Maddon shoulders plenty of blame. I’m not saying blame shouldn’t be anywhere else (cough pitching development) but Maddons style of managing is designed to keep a team loose. This team has been a little too loose since 2017. To say nothing of the puzzling bullpen management, excessive trust game to game and year to year, and other issues. Joe was the perfect guy to get this team the first title. He was never going to get us a second.

     

  • Arizona Phil 11 hours 31 min ago (view)

    And the MLB clubs that would probably have the highest degree of interest in Maddon for 2020 would be the Mets, Phillies, Angels, Pirates, White Sox, and Rockies (probably in that order).

     

  • BobbyD 11 hours 50 min ago (view)

    I despised that pterodactyl clown on the ass sox last year. Now that's he's made it his miss to put the Cubs in a death spin... Just drop him off somewhere far away. 

     

  • Arizona Phil 11 hours 54 min ago (view)

    I'm gonna say Mike Borzello will be managing the Cubs in 2020, and Mark Loretta will get the SD job. 

     

  • Arizona Phil 11 hours 55 min ago (view)

    Kimbrel has until October 31st to designate the eight MLB clubs to which he will not accept a trade, and then it will be up to the Cubs to find a taker (and good luck with that). 

     

  • Charlie 11 hours 57 min ago (view)

    Can we go back and swap Kimbrel for Keuchel?

     

  • crunch 11 hours 57 min ago (view)

    so...

    who's gonna manage the cubs next year?  =p

    barring a miracle over the next week i dunno if he's gonna make it to 2020.  replacing the manager is generally the go-to for a team looking to make a "major change" without actually spending much money.  i dunno if maddon can survive this collapse even if he doesn't shoulder much blame.

     

  • Arizona Phil 11 hours 58 min ago (view)

    Updated 2019 Cubs PH numbers (sorted by PA): 

     

  • crunch 12 hours 15 min ago (view)

    baez K's on 3 pitches.

    cubs lose their 5th in a row.  brews play a night game.

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 12 hours 16 min ago (view)

    The patented Cub Tease Rally

     

  • crunch 12 hours 18 min ago (view)

    baez pinch hitting.  okay, then.