Could Lou Piniella Be A Better Manager Than Mike Scioscia And Worse Than Ozzie Guillen?

Absolutely, if you accept the premise behind which ranked 20 big league managers on:

    • Their teams' performance in close games, i.e., games tied through six innings
    • Their teams' won-loss record relative to its projected record based on runs scored and allowed (the "Pythagorean" projection)
    • How players' individual performances improved or declined under various managers, with allowances made for the players' ages

The managers were ranked in each of the three categories, and the ranks were averaged, giving each manager a composite score.

Piniella turned up 12th overall, two slots ahead of Scioscia, but four spots below Awful Ozzie and one spot below (gulp!) Johnnie B. Baker.

Lou ranked 3rd of 20 on influencing player performance, 9th of 20 on won-loss against expectations, and 19th of 20 on won-loss record in close games.

The top 5 according to the study:

    1. Ron Gardenhire
    2. Bruce Bochy
    3. Ned Yost
    4. Charlie Manuel
    5. Bob Melvin

And your bottom five...

    16. Terry Francona
    17. Joe Torre
    18. Eric Wedge
    19. Jim Leyland
    20. Clint Hurdle

At this point, you're probably going through the same calculation that I did when I saw the list: the bottom five guys have a whole bunch of world championships on their resumés--seven to be exact--while the top five guys have a grand total of zero.

A flawed study to be sure, but an interesting read. (This study was a backdrop to an article about whether or not for Joe Torre's services.)

As for our man Lou, he's not having much of an evening tonight in Las Vegas, as his Cubs are getting battered by the Mariners. Why didn't he remember to tell Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis not to throw all those gopher balls?

 

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http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/art... The Phillies made a move on Friday that they think will shore up the back end of their bullpen, claiming right-hander Tom Leahy off waivers from the Cubs.

People talk about team parity. What about manager parity? When did MLB have the most active managers with the most WS rings or League pennants? Does the League with the higher number of "better" managers considered the "stronger" league or send better teams to the playoffs? Do high-profile "free-agent" managers historically have preference for one league or another? Will Ted Lilly give up that many HR in every game?

I think it's safe to figure that Lilly will give up equal numbers of HR every start.

I didn't read all of this yet, but looks interesting...a year-by-year summary of each Cub season from 1909-present http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?pa...

Rob G. posted that in Friday notes. What a downer. It tooks me three sittings. After the second one I went for a hourlong walk, it's that depressing.

Oh, 3/44 ... whoops

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  • Dolorous Jon Lester 1 day 3 hours ago (view)

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