Game 134 Thread / Phillies @ Cubs (1 of 4)

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SP *Cole Hamels
SP Ryan Dempster
  11-8, 3.20, 162 K, 43 BB, 188.2 IP

15-5, 2.85, 153 K, 65 BB, 170.2 IP
       
SS #Jimmy Rollins LF
Alfonso Soriano
2B *Chase Utley SS
Ryan Theriot
LF Pat Burrell 1B
Derrek Lee
1B *Ryan Howard
3B
Aramis Ramirez
CF #Shane Victorino C
Geovany Soto
RF
Jayson Werth CF Reed Johnson
3B
Pedro Feliz RF
*Kosuke Fukudome
C
Carlos Ruiz  2B Mark DeRosa
P *Cole Hamels
P Ryan Dempster

 

The Cubs and Phillies play the first game in Major League history in which the umpires—or at least the crew chief—will have the option to summon an instant replay to assist a call. (The Rangers/Angels and Twins/A's games starting later Thursday will also be replay-enabled; umpires at all games will be onboard starting Friday.) The reviewable plays will be limited to potential home runs, i.e., fair or foul, over the fence or in play, fan interference or not.

Cubs manager Lou Piniella thinks it's all just a grand idea:

"This is not going to work. I shouldn't say it's not going to work, but this could turn into a little bit of a fiasco initially."

Anyhow, having beaten our boys twice (and nearly three times) in a three-game series in Philadelphia back in April, the Philles begin this four-game set as the only NL team with a lead in their season series against the Cubs.

Hamels—3-1, 3.00 lifetime against the Cubs— started the middle game in that series and was dominant, allowing the Cubs no runs and a single hit (a 4th inning double by Derrek Lee) while walking two over 7 innings. Fifteen-game winner Dempster, who will achieve a career high with his next victory, continued his marvelous season last time out against the Nationals, limiting the Gnats to one run over 7 1/3 as the Cubbies triumphed, 9-2.

The Phillies begin play 1/2 game behind the NL East-leading Mets; Cubs are six up on the Brewers.

Comments

I really don't see the point of the replay. If you're going to do it, why not have it available for the controversial calls on the bases and for the strike zone? What makes homeruns so special? Personally, I think you have to deal with bad calls. Umps have been making bad calls for over a century and yet fans still show up to the games. Heck, sometimes the bad calls or potential for bad calls increases the quality of entertainment.

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In reply to by Chad

But they probably miss calls on the infield and at the plate as often or more often than they do on homeruns. To the argument that homeruns are very important plays in a ballgame: a play at first or a ball strike call can be just as big as a homerun if it occurs at a crucial point in the game. I'm not particularly opposed to the replay, nor am I particularly in favor of it. I find it a very blah issue. Yay, so they get the call right every time. What about all the calls they get wrong on occasion elsewhere? The game isn't exactly being ruined by blatant and frequent incorrect calls. And the replays won't ruin the game either. I just don't see a real need. Just think, if they'd gotten the call right in Houston, Soto never would've had that inside the parker.

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In reply to by Jeff_Pico

Back when Aramis had those back to back 0-for-twenty-whatevers, I thought he was having a bad year, but you're right, this year he is having a good year (or one roughly consistent with what he has done since coming to the Cubs). His OPS+ numbers since 2003: 138, 135, 126, 129 and 131 so far this year. He already has exceeded his season best for walks this year. He's been very consistent since joining the Cubs. Before looking up his numbers, I had been wondering how much better the offense would be if Lee and Ramirez were having great years. Now I just wonder what the offense would be like if Lee was having a great year, since Ramirez is having a good year (2004 was probably better, but this one is good).

this game shows the difference between us and rest of national league all phases worked the bullpen was great and once we got starter out and got to there bullpen phillies were toast. the phillies are the team i would rather see milwaukee face in first round then the mets

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In reply to by rokfish

The Phillies are dangerous with all that power (3 guys with 30 homers, plus Werth). Even though Howard is having a bad year, he keeps putting balls in the seats. Rollins is having an off year too, but is a tough ballplayer. Hamels just ate us alive while he was in. Lidge is the bullpen guy everyone is scared of, but Durbin (prior to the salami) had a 1.95 ERA. I think the Cubs have better pitching, and more balanced hitting, but we don't have the Phillies' power. As it stands today, I think the Cubs would play the D-Backs in the first round, in a reprise of last year.

Ramirez with 99 RBI--the same as Hoffpauir, who also hit a slam tonight. Third time in two weeks Fontenot started a late-inning come-from-behind winning rally with a hit: Aug. 17 @Florida, the middle game at Pitt this week and tonight.

Scott Eyre (in the Phillies bullpen in the 8th) must have had a rough time suppressing the strong urge to whoop it up on the ARam HR. He's probably glad Charlie Manuel goes to JC Romero as the first lefty otherwise he might have fallen off the bullpen mound (rather than the bench).

Don't look now but AramRam is 4th in the league in RBI's, and two of the guys he are behind won't be in MVP race consideration - Howard and Lee. If he can beat Wright in the Triple Crown stats, I can see him being considered a 'legitimate' MVP candidate for the voters wanting to give it out as a team award. Unfortunately I think Dempster's Cy Young chase took a hit last night. He's going to have to win out to catch Webb and Lincecum.

Don't give a damn about the individual awards. i was at the game when Madlock won the batting crown, cheered loudly and nothing has happened team-wise in my lifetime before or since. It would actually be cooler if this team won no individual awards and won the World Series. Anything short of a trip to the series will be a disappointment this season. I was at the game tonight and it was thrilling. Want to know how important Marmol is? Take a look at how hard it was for the Phillies to get the game to Lidge. The seventh or eighth is often more important than the ninth. For some reason, Manual was warming up a lefty to face Fukudome and no one else. By the time Fukudomw batted, the game was over. The Phillies have very little starting pitching and live by the home run. That usually doesn't add up to playoff success. If they even get there.

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