Cubs Release 2003 #1 Draft Pick

The Cubs have released 2003 #1 draft pick OF .

The 24-year old Harvey had one of the top two or three RF arms in the organization and awesome power (he hit four home runs for Daytona in one game a couple of years ago), but he just was not a good hitter (he is a first-ball fastball hacker--247/298/448 with 83 HR and 539 strikeouts in 471 career minor league games), and he suffered from nagging injuries (knee, hamstring, back, etc) throughout his career,

Harvey's release comes almost exactly a year after the Cubs released Harvey's one-time HS teammate and fellow slugger 1B (Cubs #2 pick in 2002). Dopirak signed a minor league contract with the Toronto Blue Jays after he got released and spent most of the 2008 season playing in hometown Dunedin, FL. B-Dope then re-signed with the Blue Jays (he was a minor league free-agent post-2008) and got an NRI to ST with the Jays this Spring as part of the deal (although he has been returned to Tornoto's minor league camp) 

So I wouldn't be surprised if Harvey follows Dopirak to the Blue Jays organization, even if it means he has to go back to the Florida State League again (where he would play for his hometown team) in 2009, although the Jays would probably agree to give him a shot in AA first.  

Harvey's release is definitely not a surprise. He will be a minor league free-agent after this season, and was just not progressing fast enough to think that he would be a candidate to get added to the Cubs 40-man roster post-2009. So cutting him now is probably just the best thing for everybody, especially for Harve. .

Harvey was a combination RF-RHP in HS, and I had thought (and have written here at TCR) that he might be converted to pitcher at some point with the Cubs when he continually struggled as a hitter, but while the Cubs have converted more than a dozen postion players to pitcher over the past couple of years (and no organization converts position players to pitcher to the extent that the Cubs do), they never do it unless the player agrees to the move. So I think it's pretty likely that the Cubs asked Harvey to consider a move to pitcher, but he declined.  

 

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Shame to see a #1 pick succeed so little, especially an outfielder. Maybe he can rebound somewhere else. Here's hoping for better things from Vitters, Cashner and our future picks.

Yet another total waste of a high draft pick by former Cubs scouting director John Stockstill. Had Rick Wilken been the draft czar we wouldn't have wasted picks on guys like Harvey, Dopirak, Luis Montanez, the list goes on...

Tim Wilken

meh...

Oh and we might as well add LHP Mark Pawelek to that pile too. He's made zero progress since we drafted *him* with a number one pick.

I wouldn't write him off quite yet. He's still pretty young, and I believe AZ Phil had some encouraging words about him moving forward, as a possible reliever IIRC. But I agree, our drafts have sucked.

Harvey at # 6, Markakis at # 7?!! That hurts.

1991 Draft...with the 12th pick, the Cubs selected Doug Glanville, with the 13th pick...the Indians selected Manny Ramirez.

Eh, we also drafted Drew Hall ahead of Greg Maddux. In what round did we pick Mark Grace?  Where did Mike Piazza go?  Scoutin' ain't easy....  :)

Hey bub, I'm going to go ahead and play my Drafting Hindsight game where I always win...you don't have to play along.

Heh, I understand.  I just have to play my "hindsight is 20-20, aren't I the wise and judicous one" game, where I always win. :)

Don't forget that the Cubs drafted and failed to sign Tim Lincecum back several years ago... That gets a big DOH! in my book...

those situations don't bother me at all, organizations take flyers on a lot of these guys late in the draft that have made it clear they're not going to sign. Indians drafted Lincecum in the 42nd round in 2005 as well. Prior was selected by the Yankees out of high school and so on and so on.

Sometimes you can convince them to sign and that's why they draft them, but teams aren't working on an unlimited budget. Hell, Yankees couldn't even sign Gerritt Cole last year.

And Micah Owings in 2004, although that one isn't so much of a loss. He may turn into a very good pitcher, though.

I believe Carlos Quentin and a number of other big leaguers were also drafted later in that first round. That was a talent-potent draft, and the Cubs skillfully managed to avoid all of it.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/draft/2003/Jun...

it's one thing if a guy gets drafted at the end of the first round, it's another when you're 3-5 picks away from missing a guy. In this case of 2003, if the Cubs had the mentality of taking college hitters over HS athletes, they would have made the right pick.

Kind of like Wieters vs. Vitters...

In 2000, the Cubs took Montanez with the #3 pick, Utley went #15 out of UCLA. Of course, I just mentioned Glanville vs. Manny and in that case they did take the college hitter over the HS player. So it's hardly an exact science...

That does hurt, because if the picks were reversed, Harvey would be productive player for the Orioles, while the Cubs would have coached Markakis into mediocrity.

That idiot Stockstill drafted SEAN MARSHALL in 2003. just sayin... stopped watches being right twice a day (he also drafted Jake Fox in 2003) .... .... Wilken would have drafted Marshall #1...no doubt

well at least we have Veal, Pawelek, Colvin, Huseby, Vitters , and Cashner knocking on the doorsteps of Wrigley!

I'd trade all of them for Wieters at this point.

Yes, let's trade all our prospects for one player who plays a position we won't need filled for a long time.

Under Hendry (pre-Wilken) the Cubs have been pretty good at drafting pitchers, not so good with position players. This is better than before, when they sucked at both. BTW, Rick Wilkins had a pretty nice year back in '93.

The cubs seem to have improved in Latin America at least. And we are finally getting into Asia. Can the system develop these raw kids?

"Can the system develop these raw kids?" I dunno. One thing AZ Phil has been pointing out lately is that the Cubs have a my way or highway approach. I've read some interesting stuff about this Lee kid (SS from Korea, although, almost the entire Korean WBC team, who he did not, I don't believe, play for, was named Lee).

In what language was that final sentence?

It was in Commaish, the native tongue of Commaland. And yeah Korea had a lot of Lee. One game featured a starting lineup of Lee, Lee, Lee, Kim, Kim, Park, Park, Choo, and some other guy. With a Bong on the mound!

the cubs muffed on signing draft choice Khalil Greene (14th round, 2001 draft), aka the current cardinal ss Oh, nevermind. Nobody cares... Well maybe Alex S. Gonzalez cares.

Muff. Heh.

Todd Walker has been indicted inducted into the College Baseball Hall of Fame. http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_...

ah...back when he used to be able to move his knees enough to field.

Toddie W wasn't the only former Cub on that list. Did you see that Rafe-roid, along with "Zonk" Moreland and Joe Carter are also headed to the College HOF. Congrats to all of them, and I guess Rafe's "roids" did pay off for him in some way.

I doubt Raffy was into the roids in College. Probably somewhere closer to 93 before he spiked up.

mlb network has posted their Thurdsay night baseball schedule for April and part of May the Cubs at Stl, May 21st is on the schedule but announcers to be determined http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090...

Here's to hoping its not Joe Morgan.

here's hoping it's not Bryant Gumbel...

If Tyler Colvin would have been a good pick, we wouldn't have needed Milton Bradley... That said, we're doing better than the 70's and 80's at producing major leaguers. I have made a count, but it seems that way...

Let's count the number of Cubs number one picks since 1995 that have gone on to star in the Major Leagues on one hand...Kerry Wood and whom?

Bobby Brownlie?

Johann's mom?

Mark Prior starred at least in 2003. If one year counts as "starring".

Even though that 2003 Draft will always be frustrating for the promise of Prior that never quite was, it was still a productive draft for the Cubs. It gave us Soto and Theriot as well as Mitre and Nolasco (who we politely sent to the Marlins in the interest of fairness and a level playing field.)

Mark Prior was selected in the first round, second overall, by the Cubs in the 2001 draft, not the 2003 draft. Just saying.

I hear that there are noticeably less players in minor league camp now with more players cut today. They must be close to figuring out team assignments with only 11 days until camp breaks up.

I'm still waitin' on Earl Cunningham, Ty Griffin and Lance Dickson. ...sob.....

the shawon-0-meter?

I guess when its all said and done, it doesn't matter if the #1 pick works out or not. What matters is how the system is producing. Soto is an example, so is Z, Shark and the previously mentioned Marshall.

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  • crunch 7 hours 46 min ago (view)

    without fail, at the end of every minor league spring training period (which is extremely poorly paid, not at all for the most part) there comes some retirements that seem to be a bit "early" in their development when players slog through weeks of low/no pay only to find out they're being assigned to a low level that barely pays them.  it's a real morale crasher after going through weeks of poverty that breaks some guys.  that's no way to run things...

     

  • JustSayin' 9 hours 5 min ago (view)

    So true.  The minors these days is an odd mix of the few who get big bonuses with Hispanic guys for whom $1,200/month might be good money and college guys being partly subsidized by middle or upper-middle class families.  You don't hear much about minor league economics when the discussion turns to lower participation by black players but I believe it's a big factor.  If you need to use sports to get ahead, would you rather have your "internship" involve a free college education, or $6,000 a year?  

     

  • crunch 9 hours 36 min ago (view)

    there are more than a few minor league players that have to "retire" from minor league ball in order to start making real money in the real world for their real lives while those from more wealthy families get to follow their dreams a bit longer.

    that's a real shame.

     

  • JustSayin' 14 hours 42 min ago (view)

    Theo got a good question at the conference on minor league salaries and went on record that they are unfair.  That was followed by "keep your ear to the ground" or some similar cliche.  I find this interesting.  Fan dissatisfaction this offseason is maily focused on ownership being cheap but you have to admit there is a (slim?) chance that the baseball moves we want to see are not currently possible.  It's hard to say the same about MiLB salaries.  Those don't even factor in the luxury tax.  You could raise every player in the system to middle class for the cos

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 15 hours 8 min ago (view)

    As part of the 2019-2020 Cubs offseason dumpster diving extravaganza, I wonder if they will kick the tires on Zack Cozart. Can handle 2B SS 3B and isn't far removed from being a great defender and at least decent hitter. 2 years of injury is a concern, but he'd receive only ML minimum.

     

  • crunch 1 day 4 hours ago (view)

    WAS is now floating c.kieboom as a 3rd base option...along with asdrubal cabrera backing him up there.

    the bryant service issue delay may end up lessening his trade value as teams (especially his #1 rumored suitor, WAS) prepare their teams in the offseason.

    it's unfortunate that the cubs major offseason team building is based on waiting to find out how much getting rid of bryant is worth because of service time concerns.

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 9 hours ago (view)

    Another possible unintended consequence of the new restriction on September call-ups is that contending clubs will send MLB-ready pitchers and position-players who in previous seasons would have been called-up to MLB in September to the Arizona Fall League, just to keep them in game shape in case the pitcher or position player is needed as an injury replacement in September or in the post-season.  

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 12 hours ago (view)

    One thing about Josh Phegley is that not only is he out of minor league options but he also has Article XIX-A rights (he has accrued at least five years of MLB Service Time), so he can't even be outrighted to the minors without his consent if he were to be added to the 40.

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 13 hours ago (view)

    The Cubs have reportedly signed veteran MLB catcher Josh Phegley (ex-OAK and ex-CHW) to a minor league contract and an NRI to Spring Training (contract is pending because it has not yet been filed with MLB). 

     

  • CubbyBlue 1 day 16 hours ago (view)

    Yeah but that person figured out a way to make a profit off of it, so... hey WAIT!

     

  • crunch 2 days 2 hours ago (view)

    "Cubs' pitching coach Tommy Hottovy said Friday that Brandon Morrow (elbow) will be on the same schedule as the rest of the Cubs' pitchers during spring training."

    that's cool.  no restrictions unless the team chooses to be cautious, evidently.

     

  • Arizona Phil 2 days 8 hours ago (view)

    The Danny Hultzen and Carlos Asuaje minor league contracts have been filed with MLB, but no Jason Adam or Tyler Olson contract filings (yet).  

     

  • cubbies.4ever 2 days 9 hours ago (view)

    My son's name is Tyler Olsen (obviously spelled different, and only 6 but a future Cub), so I am rooting for Tyler to make the team. 

     

  • Arizona Phil 2 days 9 hours ago (view)

    And Tyler Olson has a similar profile as Casey Sadler (out of minor league options and has Article XX-D rights if he is added to the 40), the only difference being (unlike Sadler) Olson will come to Spring Training not on the 40 so he can be sent to Iowa without restrictions, but if & when he's added to the 40 he isn't a Des Moines - Chicago shuttle-rider candidate. 

     

  • Arizona Phil 2 days 9 hours ago (view)

    Unfortunately (for the Cubs) Casey Sadler doesn't fit as a Des Moines - Chicago shuttle-rider because he is out of minor league options and he can elect free-agency if he is outrighted (he has Article XX-D rights because he been outrighted previously in his career). 

     

  • cubbies.4ever 2 days 9 hours ago (view)

    I agree, this offseason has been a disgrace.  If I'm Theo I'm thinking I am in OAK or CHI?  This ownership has given him nothing this year.  Even the cheap Twins are willing to sign Josh Donaldson and the Cubs biggest transaction this offseason may be adding Miguel Amaya to the 40 man.