Cubs to Dodgertown? Wait a Minute--That Was My Harebrained Idea!

Last week, Arizona Phil offered a of the Cubs' threats to vacate their spring training home in Mesa, absent major improvements at Fitch Park. In the meantime, with in-laws living in Vero Beach and no baseball to watch out at Dodgertown during my family's annual spring visit to Florida, I have been thinking about what a swell replacement the tradition-rich Cubs would be for the tradition-rich Dodgers, who began training in Vero way back in 1949. The Dodgers are currently enjoying their first spring training out west, at the Camelback Ranch complex in Arizona Phil territory.

Author Charles Fountain, who recently wrote , took up the Cubs to Vero Beach question in . He writes that the notion of the Cubs moving into Dodgertown is beyond a longshot. Beyond even a long, long, longshot.

Getting any team to come to Vero Beach is going to involve a lot of
public money. Dodgertown, or whatever we’ll call it in the years to
come, needs work. The county-built clubhouse, the fields and ancillary
practice facilities, the conference center and the other amenities are
all fine. But quaint, charming, historic Holman Stadium is not. While
romantic fans and poets may find it irresistible, it is not going to
attract a 21st century major-league baseball team without millions in
improvements. It needs a second deck, with private suites, premium
seating and a modern press box. It needs a widened concourse, all the
way around, including the berm. And it’s going to need roofs on the
dugouts, and bathrooms inside them, before any big leaguer sits on
those benches again.

Quaint, charming, historic, a magnet to romantics and poets. In need of millions of dollars in improvements, including more luxury seating and a wider concourse. Sounds to me like the perfect spring training headquarters for a team that calls Wrigley Field home.

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I'm certain that Indian River County (FL) would be willing to invest just about whatever it would take to upgrade Dodgertown for a new team, particularly a team as popular as the Cubs. Florida lawmakers are concerned about the recent moves of teams from Florida to Arizona and I believe they would be willing to kick in some money as well. Even so, I have a hard time believing that the Cubs would leave Arizona in favor of Florida. I don't know enough about the dynamics in Arizona to know how far they would go to keep the Cubs, but it's hard to believe they would let the team leave without making a big push to keep them.

My grandma lives in Vero and though I miss the Dodgers in town for Spring Training, I can't even imagine the Cubs coming there - definately in my wildest dreams category. My life would take a solid step toward being more complete. I better stop thinking about it! :)

although I haven't been there yet, I would certainly prefer the Cubs to stay on the West Coast for spring training. that being said, my impression is that more Chicagoans prefer to vacation in Florida over Arizona and California, so this would probably be better for the Cubs. The Grapefruit League would sure be thrilled w/ Yanks, Red Sox and Cubs all there.

Also with the Florida economy being so dependent on tourism (they are on of a handful of states with no state income taxes because they have so much tourodollars) that this recent drain of teams (Dodgers, Indians, Reds) and with the Cactus League trying to pull even more in, I imagine the Astros will be likely candidate, this has to hurt them more than most states losing tourism dollars. The Cubs would likely make back the revenue from the Ohio Teams. Also with the new ownership likely to push for a Cub Channel and I am sure it would be easier for them to sell ads during Spring training telecasts agnaist the Red Sox, Yanks, Cards, Mets and Phils than agnaist any Cactus league team that isnt the White Sox.

I should also add that every other team in the Cactus League should pony up any money to Mesa or another city if they're smart. W/o the Cubs, the only other major draw is the Dodgers in Arizona and I'm sure those teams like the sellouts.

I don't think no state tax is because of "tourodollars". The states are Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming. Tenn and New Hampshire only tax dividend and interest income. Now, maybe the reasons Florida and Nevada do it is because of tourism, but there's plenty of other reasons to do it as well.

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