Game 105 Thread / Phillies @ Cubs (2 of 4)


This lineup makes me sick.

This lineup makes me sick. Dissing the lineup stopped working last week.

This lineup is awesome, then.

Soriano Theriot Lee Ramirez Floyd DeRosa Jones Kendall Marquis

Dobbs Iguchi Rollins Howard Rowand Burrell Coste Roberson Eaton

our pitcher sucks.

This is going to be one of 22-17 Cubs/Phillies games, both pitchers suck and i imagine given the hudmity the winds is blowing out. Odd lineup for Philly having Dobbs lead off. Id would have gone Rowand and put Burrell 5th and Dobbs 6th.

victorino and bourn to the DL

Someone point JJ at the ball, please.

Someone point JJ at the ball, please. He lost the ball in the sky/lights... it happens to the best of them.

So much for Burrell nothing for power... :(

nothing = not hitting. its been one of those nights.

What was the injury delay in the bottom of the 7th? Gameday didn't provide any details.

and Jones strikes out on three pitches with the bags loaded and one out. must have lost the ball in the lights happens to the best of them

Phillies pitcher was hit in the leg by a Ramirez hit that went to the first baseman who made the out.

Thanks MC. Glad to hear it wasn't Aramis who was involved.

and Jones strikes out on three pitches with the bags loaded and one out. Funny... didn't hear you say anything about JJ's 2-run double...

Well, technically it was a 1-run double and the second run scored on a error. Maybe it was only a single too, not sure.

Yea... it was a double with one RBI and the second run scored on the error. But still - it is ridiculous that people on here will attack JJ for a strikeout and completely ignore his double. Or attack him for losing a ball in the lights/sky and completely ignore several other good defensive skills.

Ah, at least JJ seems to be getting some confidence back. I don't groan when I see him in the lineup anymore. What's really ridiculous is this Mets-Brewers game. Going into the 12th now tied at 2-2. I know I won't be able to go to bed until it's over, one way or the other.

and it's over Jeff Geokins with a 2 run blast to keep the Brewers in first. When do we play them again? Cubs need to TCB themselves, it seems.

Can we give it up for Jason Marquis. He got the job done and probably would have only given up 2 runs if not for Jock's understandable? forgivable? misplay. And great work Will Ohman, Carlos Marmol and Bobby Howry.

I'll give it up for Marquis.....nice job, he's been more than we could have hoped for this year.

I don't have to give it up for Marquis, since I defended him after his last, horrible, start. If he can keep the groundballs flowing, he will be fine. And if he's fine, it's hard to believe the Cubs won't take the division, and may even chase down the Mets for HF advantage in the NL playoffs. That is if no one gets hurt. Of course there was some Dustyism going on as Murton sat on the bench last night. I could have done without that. It makes Piniella look stupid, there's no other word for it. Remember when everyone thought that Murton would platoon with Floyd - but get starts against right handers? Pinheadiella cannot even get Murton back to back starts against left handers.

Of course there was some Dustyism going on as Murton sat on the bench last night. They were facing a rhp, so it would make sense to have Floyd in there. Do you expect Murton to play every day?

whoops, thought that was Moyer last night. I will hold off on the official Dusty comparison until tonights (why?) lineup is announced.

whoops, thought that was Moyer last night. Yea... I made the same mistake yesterday. I would expect Murton to start tonight with Pagan on center.

#22 chadster- my reverse curse in number 6 apparently worked. hooray marquis! am now trying to prepare a similar incantation for the s&p 500. * * * * * * * 1 run vs hamels monday. 7 runs vs a variety tuesday. will the real cubs please stand up? * * * * * * * jones is neither the problem nor the solution. i'd rather see pie; it just aint gonna happen.

1 run vs hamels monday. 7 runs vs a variety tuesday. will the real cubs please stand up? I don't think it has much to do with the "real cubs." It has to do with the fact that Hamels is one of the best left handed pitchers in the game.

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  • crunch 12 hours 33 min ago (view)

    minor league baseball has to provide housing for minor leaguers starting 2022 (paid for by MLB parent clubs).  this is HUGE news and will make it possible for guys to stick around longer without having to quit the game just to earn a basic living.  for minor league players working in expensive housing markets this is a life saver.

    activist players from the OAK and LAA minor league teams as well as minor league player labor advocacy organizations were a huge part of making this happen.  good work.


  • bradsbeard 16 hours 16 min ago (view)

    Did you have any occasion to observe Pedro Ramirez? Not sure if he got into any games or not (now that I think of it, you wrote up at least one game he played in). 


  • Arizona Phil 21 hours 29 min ago (view)

    azbobbop: Certainly LHSPs Drew Gray and Luke Little have emerged as legit significant high-end SP prospects. RHSP Luis Devers has probably displaced Koen Moreno as the top "pitchability" SP prospect in the lower levels of the Cubs system. Tyler Schlaffer (another "pitchability" guy) also had an impressive Instructs, although Devers is a better SP prospect because he has a solid three-pitch mix and knows how to use it, while Schlaffer has just the 92-94 FB & CV (although both are solid offerngs) and isn't as polished as Devers is.


  • Hagsag 1 day 3 hours ago (view)

    This is the first time I have heard about the four month program in November. 


  • azbobbop 1 day 10 hours ago (view)

    Phil, now that instructional scare finished, which players impressed you the most and who are disappointments.


  • tim815 1 day 14 hours ago (view)

    Cool. Should help his trade value if the bat plays.


  • Arizona Phil 1 day 16 hours ago (view)

    TIM: Peter Matt looks very comfortable at 3B. He is a classic "four-corner" guy (1B-3B-LF-RF). 


  • Arizona Phil 1 day 16 hours ago (view)

    KKvG: I strongly suspect Koen Moreno's outing was more about getting out on the mound and throwing in a game than anything. He did get several swings & misses from his CH (which is a plus-pitch), and he uses his low 90's FB to set-up the CH.

    I didn't see any breaking balls, although it's possible I might have mistaken a CH for one.

    Koen Moreno is what scouts call a "pitchability" guy. Nothing wrong with that, BTW. MLB starting rotations are full of pitchers like that.  


  • Arizona Phil 1 day 16 hours ago (view)

    Childersb3: Not much bat speed. Just "lug-power." I actually like Matt Mervis better. 


  • Hagsag 1 day 18 hours ago (view)

    Thanks wrigley rat.


  • Wrigley Rat 1 day 20 hours ago (view)

    HAGSAG - Not Phil, but I think this info was from him in the past:

    RHP/OF (signed as a two-way player - seems to be sticking with hitting for now), R/R, 5'11 180, Age 18, SPAIN


  • Childersb3 1 day 23 hours ago (view)


    Does Bryce Ball have any real bat speed, or is he just a big guy that waves at the ball and makes contact 1of5 times?


  • Hagsag 2 days 4 hours ago (view)

    Phil, tell me about Frank Fernandez.


  • tim815 2 days 11 hours ago (view)

    If Matt is "not horrible" at third, that could be useful.


  • crunch 3 days 11 hours ago (view)

    bonds got a standing-O after being introduced between innings at LAD @ SF.

    as he sat down, dude looked extremely genuinely happy to hear the park errupt in cheers for him again.

    it's not his first time back, nor his first set of cheers, but the park is packed and loud.


  • Cubster 4 days 10 hours ago (view)

    Jed's GM search wrapping up, and the winner is: (Athletic write up): 37 yr old "Carter Hawkins, Cleveland assistant general manager, deals with all aspects of baseball operations in a front office admired for its stability, creativity in turning over the roster and ability to keep churning out pitchers.