Guest Column: A Look at How the 2012 Cubs Draft is Going

Submitted by WISCGRAD on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 10:48am

It seemed a lot of you liked it when WISCGRAD did a brief rundown of the 2013 draft and how the draftees are doing so far, so WISCGRAD just went ahead and did the 2012 draft as well. What a guy...

Round Player Position Comments
1 Albert Almora OF .321/.331/.464 between Arizona and Boise in 2012, .329/.376/.466 in 272 ABs for KC in 2013 before heading to DL. Will Play in the Arizona Fall League
CA Pierce Johnson RHP Only 11 IP in 2012 after signing; now 11-6 with a 2.81 ERA in 20 starts for KC and Daytona
CA Paul Blackburn RHP 3.48 ERA in 20 IP for Arizona in 2012, 3.35 ERA in 43 IP for Boise in 2013
2 Duane Underwood RHP Only 8 IP in 2012 after signing; 4.56 ERA in 51 IP for Boise in 2013
3 Ryan McNeil RHP 20 solid IP for Arizona in 2012 before requiring TJ surgery
4 Josh Conway RHP Recovered from TJ surgery in 2012, sufferred stress fracture to same elbow in Extended Spring Training 2013
5 Anthony Prieto LHP 2.33 in 19 IP for Arizona in 2012; 4.29 ERA in 21 IP for Arizona in 2013
6 Trey Lang RHP Only 13 IP in 2012 after signing; 8.88 ERA in 24 IP for Arizaon and Boise in 2013
7 Stephen Bruno 3B .361/.442/.496 in 252 ABs for Boise in 2012; .362/.436/.478 in 69 ABs for Daytona in 2013 but on DL most of season with recurring hamstring injury
8 Michael Heesch LHP 2.45 ERA in 25 IP for Arizona and Boise in 2012; 3.78 ERA in 119 IP for KC in 2013
9 Chadd Krist C .274/.335/.433 line in 208 ABs for Boise and Peoria in 2012; .249/.361/.355 line in 291 ABs for KC and Daytona in 2013
10 Chad Martin RHP 5.06 ERA in 16 IP for Arizona in 2012; now playing in the Frontier League
11 Rashad Crawford OF Only 30 ABs after signing in 2012; .208/.302/.277 line in 130 ABs for Arizona in 2013
12 Justin Amlung RHP 4.00 ERA in 18 IP for Arizona/Boise in 2012; 3.95 ERA in 66 IP for KC in 2013
13 Bijan Rademacher OF .278/.320/.396 line in 187 ABs for Boise/Peoria in 2012; .287/.355/.381 line in 310 ABs for KC and Daytona in 2013
14 Corbin Hoffner RHP Only 12 IP in 2012 after signing; 1.55 ERA in 40 IP for Boise in 2013
15 Carlos Escobar C .234/.358/.390 line for Arizona/Boise in 2012; .233/.298/.373 line in 150 ABs for KC in 2013
16 Michael Hamann RHP Only 11 IP in 2012 after signing; 1.82 ERA in 24 IP for Boise and KC in 2013
17 Nathan Dorris LHP 1.88 ERA in 24 IP for Arizona/Boise in 2012; 2.80 ERA in 61 IP for KC in 2013
18 David Bote SS .232/.349/.360 line for Arizona in 2012; .225/.329/.341 line for Daytona/KC/Boise in 2013
21 Stephen Perakslis RHP 3.42 ERA in 26 IP for Arizona/Peoria in 2012; 2.95 ERA in 55 IP for KC in 2013
22 Eddie Orozco RHP 1.88 ERA in 28 IP for Arizona/Boise in 2012; 4.88 ERA in 31 IP for KC/Boise in 2013
26 Jasvir Rakkar RHP Only 10 IP in 2012 after signing; 3.98 ERA in 31 IP for Boise in 2013
27 Tyler Bremer RHP 5.71 ERA in 17 IP for Arizona/Boise in 2012; 2.25 ERA in 24 IP for Boise in 2013
28 Lance Rymel C .188/.246/.344 line for Boise in 2012; .260/.335/.329 line Boise in 2013
30 Izaac Garsez OF .246/.331/.410 line for Arizona/Boise in 2012; not playing in 2013
32 Tim Saunders SS .381/.431/.536 line in 194 ABs for Arizona/Peoria/Daytona in 2012; .226/.316/.321 line for Daytona in 2013
35 Ben Carhart 3B .353/.419/.456 line for Arizona in 2012; .246/.297/.336 line for Daytona in 2013
40 Jacob Rogers 1B .326/.462/.507 line for Arizona/Peoria in 2012; .284/.396/.419 line in 236 ABs for Boise in 2013

Cubs @ Dodgers tonight...

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Submitted by WISCGRAD  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:01am  
My own view after doing it is: Of the 17 pitchers drafted, 6 are doing great, 2 others solid, 2-4 just seem to be OK or meh, 4 are really struggling, 1 other has been released, and 2 others are injured. Of the position players, Almora was doing great at KC this year before getting injured. Bruno's rate stats have been awesome but he has spent much of this year on the DL with a hamstring injury. Rogers has an OPS over .800 at Boise, and Rademacher is doing fine for KC/Daytona. But the three catchers are all struggling; Bote-Saunders-Carhart in the infield are not hitting at all in 2013; Crawford's OPS is below .600 at Arizona, and Garsez was not brought back this year.

Submitted by jacos  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:29am  
Any shot of any of the pitchers being quality# 2 or &#3 starters? Thanks

Submitted by QuietMan  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 4:35pm  
Bruno had Tommy John surgery. Stephen Bruno‏@UvaBruno11 4 Jul Joining club Tommy John..just a bump in the road..be back in no time ! Stephen Bruno‏@UvaBruno11 28 Jul Making progress already pic.twitter.com/GESJKo1YaW

Submitted by Cubster  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 6:41pm  
pic.twitter.com/GESJKo1YaW --- note the distal forearm sutures, they took the palmaris longus tendon for his UCL graft. http://img.medscape.com/fullsize/migrated/439...

Submitted by Charlie  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 6:48pm  
Shouldn't that go inside the arm? #nightmares

Submitted by Cubster  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 6:54pm  
#nightmares --- Surgeons rarely say oops... They just got done harvesting the graft, before it goes to the medial elbow. Kind of like K.Harrelson preparing a can of corn before eating it.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 12:40pm  

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/prospec...

Mike Olt may have been the more well-known name in the trade that sent Matt Garza to Texas, but Edwards could end up being the prize of the haul for the Cubs. With a fastball that sits around 90-94 mph and can get into the high 90s when he needs it, Edwards is a strike thrower who repeats his delivery, works down in the zone, misses plenty of bats and can keep the ball in the yard. The home run he allowed two weeks ago was the first he’s allowed in his 179-inning career. After eight strikeouts in four shutout innings yesterday, Edwards, 21, lowered his ERA to 1.45 in five starts since joining high Class A Daytona.

Jonathan Gray in that link as well, doing quite well.

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 3:15pm  
"Adam RubinVerified account ‏@AdamRubinESPN Got confirmation: Parial UCL tear in elbow for Harvey. Headed to DL. #mets" that's a TJ trip. see you in 2015 harvey...

Submitted by Rob Richardson  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 3:37pm  
My season ticket waiting list number has come up, and a representavtive of the Cubs will be attending a game with me on Sept 7th. I can only assume it will be Tom Ricketts.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 3:50pm  

I hear if you're trying to buy the cheap seats, you get Ronnie Woo-Woo.

okay, that's a lie, there's no such thing as cheap seats at Wrigley.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 3:52pm  

Samardzija wins player of the week.

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 3:54pm  
did you catch that? http://i.minus.com/ibd7dgjN0UsxhZ.gif

Submitted by Carlito  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 7:07pm  
Oh my god, I can watch that clip all day.

Submitted by John Beasley  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 7:13pm  
The crowd would've gone wild if there was one.

Submitted by jacos  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 7:13pm  
I don't know if this is same at bat, Tulo truly perplexed http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18y7qqg7bkise...

Submitted by Rob Richardson  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 4:14pm  
Another team's rebuilding plan. http://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2013...

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 4:16pm  
now they can throw $25m a year at the team over the next 4 years! ...oh wait, that's not how it works...i mean, that's never how it works.

Submitted by John Beasley  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 7:15pm  
The fact that Rizzo is thinking about batting 3rd vs. 2nd is dumb. The only two factors should be whether there are baserunners and how many outs. Does anyone in the organization think to coach these guys on the mental aspects of the game?

Submitted by Rob G.  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 7:24pm  

well whatever nonsense he said, he ended up hitting just fine in 2 spot.

292/393/542 over those 5 games

Submitted by Arizona Phil  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 3:54pm  

Someone should tell Anthony Rizzo that before he was moved into the #4 spot to stay in 1963, Ron Santo hit lead-off 17 times and batted 2nd in the order seven times in 1962.

Santo was a big-time OBP guy, leading the National League in OBP twice in the 1960's. He also led the N. L. in walks four out of five seasons 1964-68 (and he tied for the league-lead in triples in 1964, too!).   

Submitted by George Altman  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 5:20pm  
These kids now a days.....think they know everything.

Submitted by Cubster  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 8:03pm  
in early action... Baez 1-1, 2 rbi including a sac fly Olt, 0-0, 2 walks

Submitted by QuietMan  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 8:06pm  
Top 2014 Draft Prospects http://throughthefencebaseball.com/2014-mlb-d...

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 8:53pm  
justin bellinger didn't even make their top 50? wtf? if he doesn't go top 10 i'd be shocked...hell, if he doesn't go top 5 i'd be surprised. 6'6" 230lbs and murders the ball...not only is he the best HS power prospect in next year's draft...he's better than pretty much every power prospect on the college level. btw, he opts to use a wood bat to do his hitting...in a high school division that uses aluminum...and he's the only one doing it. this is going to be a heavy SP + SS 1st round in 2014...

Submitted by QuietMan  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 10:49pm  
Next ten: Justin Bellinger, Scott Hurst, Keaton McKinney, Nick Burdi, Austin Cousino, Cameron Varga, Alex Lange, Trenton Kemp, Brandon Murray, Spencer Adams. Same writer did a mock 2014 draft 2+ months ago and had Bellinger going 19th. http://throughthefencebaseball.com/2014-mlb-m... Doesn't make scout.com list either. http://sbb.scout.com/2/1318151.html

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:05pm  
bellinger had a crappy power showcase this year...his longest one being 420-ish and he fouled off or outfield placed a lot of his hits. that's the only thing i can think of that would knock him down so much. still, based on what he's done in highschool...with a wood bat...i find it hard to believe so many are giving up on him so quickly. plus, he dominated the power showcase last year...hit one 470+ ft at chase field. he's probably very tired. he's spent the past many years playing a full season of highschool ball plus every single summer league he can find. if he actually slips to 2nd round talent...wow. btw, i don't think the guy is the next coming...it's just that the 2014 draft is so extremely weak with power bats. also, wow...tyler beede is #21 on the scout.com rankings...lot of people expecting him to go top-10, easy. he was a 1st round pick by TOR out of highschool in 2011.

Submitted by Cubster  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 8:42pm  
Javy Baez just blasted a 3-1 pitch towering over the LF wall. Andreoli was on 2nd (after stealing 2nd) with two outs. 6-0 Smokies that just made my milb tv subscription worth the price!

Submitted by Carlito  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 8:47pm  
Baez and Miggy both homer again. I swear ... I'm gonna check and see how many days they've both homered in last three-four weeks.

Submitted by Cubster  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 8:45pm  
and Olt is 0-1, 3 walks...I-Cubs up 2-1 in the bottom of 8th, in Iowa.

Submitted by Cubster  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 8:50pm  
a win tonight and the Smokies clinch a playoff birth... Smokies Playoff fever, catch it... AA ball...the balloon pop relay between innings.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 10:09am  
Three playoff teams--Tennessee, Daytona and Boise--out of five ain't bad.

Submitted by Arizona Phil  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 1:13pm  

VA PHIL: Actually either four or five of the eight Cubs affiliates will likely qualify for the post-season playoffs: Tennessee (clinched), Daytona (close to clinching), Boise (50-50 chance), DSL Cubs (clinched), and VSL Cubs (lost to VSL Mariners in VSL Championship series earlier this month), but not Iowa, Kane County, or AZL Cubs. 

BTW, players from a lower classification can be moved up to an affiliate from a higher classification for post-season play, so one or more AZL Cubs players could be moved up to Boise (if Boise makes it), and one or more KC players could be moved up to Daytona for the playoffs.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 1:32pm  
I didn't see Hillsboro winning 8 of 10 and sneaking up on Boise. They go head-to-head this weekend to conclude the season.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 2:16pm  

you have to go all the way back to 2011 to find a similar occurrence (discounting the DSL and VSL teams)

http://wiklifield.thecubreporter.com/2011_Cub...

Submitted by Cubster  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 9:08pm  
Christian Villaneuva catches a foul pop...Smokies celebrate with a 6-0 win.

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 9:13pm  
4th pitch of the game...j.lake failed bunt...getting it out of the way early...at least it wasn't for strike 3 or weakly bunted to the pitcher. what is his obsession with bunting? sure, he's got 4 bunt hits, but you'd think he was t.campana or something with the amount of chances he takes...and m.garza by the amount he fouls off.

Submitted by Carlito  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 9:30pm  
Yes and Castro was running and had a better jump than when Rizzo was up, wish he'd have swung away or taken the pitch. The dude is a trip. He's just wound really tight I think, and it's one of his nervous ticks. He has a bunting tick....

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 9:37pm  
between that and his mini-sammy-sosa epic swings, he's proving to be quite entertaining in almost every AB.

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:25pm  
j.lake bunts for a hit in the 7th...lulz.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 10:06am  
"his mini-sammy-sosa epic swings" To each his own, I guess. To me, only Lake and Rizzo on the Cubs would qualify for a beautiful-swing contest. The other guys are all pretty ugly and hard for me to watch. Castro sometimes puts a nice straightaway swing on a pitch middle-outside. What are you going to say about over-swinging when Baez shows up?

Submitted by Charlie  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 10:18am  
Call me when J. Lake hits 35 homeruns in a partial season. His huge hacks are fine until he's got two strikes on him.

Submitted by Old and Blue  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 1:10pm  
Lake will probably disappear if he doesn't figure that out, but that's what keeps guys in/out of the lineup anyway. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 3:35pm  
Not sure why I'm supposed to call you. All I said was he had a nice swing. Who hits 35 home runs without trying to get a couple of good rips every at-bat? I've seen half or more of Lake's at-bats and I just haven't see the hacking. Hacking implies swinging and missing, where Lake hits a lot of fouls. Hacking also implies swinging at pitches out of the zone, whereas I've seen Lake take a lot of close pitches, especially early in the count. I just don't see what you and crunch see. Everything looks promising to me so far. He has shown a tendency lately to try to pull outside pitches, which could spell the end of the 9-game hitting streak and the onset of a slump.

Submitted by crunch  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 1:44pm  
when i say "hacking" in the case of j.lake, i mean he loads up and swings the bat as if he was just woken up at 3am by an attacker 2ft from his face and he's fighting for his life. he takes these mighty, full-force, "screw the world" swings. they don't seem wild or uncontrolled...just extremely hard swings that torque his body as he finishes his follow through.

Submitted by Dusty Baylor  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 2:35pm  
Sunday he took a good 2-Strike swing, and hit a line drive up the middle. I mean...he CAN do it. Doesn't mean he'll learn to always do it....

Submitted by Old and Blue  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 4:44pm  
Of course he can do it, he's young. A love all the alarmist reactions to 22 and 23 year olds around here.

Submitted by Charlie  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 4:09pm  
I was responding to your implied connection of Javier Baez and Junior Lake, who may both take big swings. They'd both benefit from a more under control two-strike approach. But one of them could potentially hit 30+ HRs in the majors and thus get away with striking out a lot.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil  on Wed, 08/28/2013 - 10:26am  
Big as Lake is, and just starting to fill out, I wouldn't say too confidently that only one of those hitters has 30+ HR potential.

Submitted by Charlie  on Wed, 08/28/2013 - 4:32pm  
Lake may have the physical tools necessary to drive the ball out of the park regularly, so there's always that possibility. But career high in homeruns so far is the 17 he hit between A+, AA, and AFL in 2011. That's nothing to scoff at, but it doesn't put him on anywhere near the slugger level as Baez is right now. I like Lake plenty, and I'm happy to see him take an aggressive swing until he's got two strikes on him. But he will need a two-strike approach to succeed in the majors, and even his aggressive swings get a bit out of control at times. The same could be said of Baez, but the kind of power he already possesses will blot out some blemishes. Also, Lake will probably be playing an outfield spot, while Baez's bat will be playing on the infield somewhere. We actually agree a fair amount here, I just thought you might be making a somewhat facile connection between Lake and Baez and being picky as I am I couldn't let it go.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil  on Fri, 08/30/2013 - 9:20am  
I agree that we agree "a fair amount here." I'm not making large claims for Lake or trying to compare him to Baez, except in one particular: like Baez, Lake knows that the first rule of hitting is to get good rips--what Theo has called "selective aggression." (You swing selectively, but when you do, you always try to drive the ball.) The player on the Cubs who drives me most nuts is Castro, who hasn't internalized the rule about getting good rips. Neither has crunch, who got me started on my defense of Lake.

Submitted by John Beasley  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 9:38pm  
Listening to Vin Scully never gets old.

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:19pm  
not arrieta's night again...he even walked greinke and gave up a hit to him (though greinke is hitting oddly well this season). 5ip 6h 5bb 3k...4er

Submitted by Carlito  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:29pm  
Yeah he has that Kerry Wood thing where you gotta watch for his loss of command somewhere in the first 5 innings and hope it doesn't get ugly. And yeah Greinke is batting over .330 and Scully said when SWAIM coached him in Mil, that he'd ask for advanced scouting on hitters. Considers himself a bat, and hard to argue this year.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:43pm  

I presume you meant advanced scouting on pitchers?

I'm happy to be in the minority that thinks NL pitchers should take more pride in their offense and work harder at it.

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:46pm  
i truly miss the comedy of a randy johnson AB.

Submitted by Charlie  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 10:20am  
We Cubs fans have been treated to some fun pitcher ABs over the last decade or so. Kerry Wood, Carlos Zambrano, Travis Wood, and even Ted Lilly come to mind.

Submitted by Carlito  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 11:09am  
I remember big limbering hacker Rick Reuschel had a great bat too!

Submitted by JoePepitone  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 5:00pm  
Gameday listed Villanueva's 56 mph pitch to Ramirez as an "Eephus". I didn't know that they had that term in their repertoire.

Submitted by crunch  on Mon, 08/26/2013 - 11:42pm  
that's at least the 3rd time he's thrown that this year. odd pitch.

Submitted by crunch  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 12:23am  
b.wilson (LAD) throwing 88mph sliders and 93mph fastballs. good for him...except for the striking out d.murphy to end the game thing.

Submitted by Rob G.  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 2:02am  

Cubs are 6-18 in August, I believe i heard Vin say that was the worst record in baseball for the month.

Submitted by crunch  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 2:37am  
and they lead the NL in HRs in august...bunk.

Submitted by SheffieldCornelia  on Tue, 08/27/2013 - 7:29am  
Hold on for Rodon! (The best tanking rally cry I could come up with.)

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  • KingKongvsGodzilla 10 hours 16 min ago (view)

    AZPhil, thank you for these updates! It's a nice little pick me up during this dumb year. If you have anything to say on Yohendrick Pinango, Joel Machado, Rafael Morel, or Richard Gallardo, I would love to hear it! Thanks again!

     
  • crunch 19 hours 46 min ago (view)

    jim hickey new nats pitching coach.

     
  • bradsbeard 1 day 14 hours ago (view)

    Several non-prospects ate up spots as well. Ultimately wish they had given a few more Rivas types a shot there. 

     
  • tim815 1 day 15 hours ago (view)

    Only 60 spots in SB. Others benefited more from the time.

     
  • crunch 1 day 18 hours ago (view)

    not phil, but i think everyone is holding off on his potential ceiling until he gains enough weight to not look like someone you want to buy a sandwich every time you see him.

    big upside if his skills can strengthen as he builds his body.

    too early for a solid comp, but i wouldn't feel uncomfortable throwing ian happ's name around (bit better arm than happ, though).

     
  • bradsbeard 1 day 19 hours ago (view)

    Me too. Thought it was weird he wasn't in South Bend at all. 

     
  • Dolorous Jon Lester 2 days 43 min ago (view)

    I am very, very intrigued by Rivas. If the DH is unfortunately here to stay, he's a prime candidate for that and give Rizzo a day off 1B here and there. If no DH, hopefully he is a passable OF. Big believer in his hitting ability

     
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    Phil, do you think Chris Morel is the real deal?

     
  • tim815 2 days 16 hours ago (view)

    http://www.milb.com/roster/index.jsp?cid=609&sid=milb

    Blue and Red DSL instructs rosters. No Brayan Altuve.

    http://www.milb.com/roster/index.jsp?cid=2270&sid=...

     
  • crunch 2 days 19 hours ago (view)

    yup, they're gonna try.  starts in about a month.

     
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    Has it been announced whether there will be a DR winter league this winter?

     
  • tim815 3 days 8 hours ago (view)

    That's as good of news as we'll get for awhile.

     
  • Arizona Phil 3 days 11 hours ago (view)

    TIM: If nothing else, signing a boatload of IFA (35) in the 2019-20 ISP is a pretty good indicator that the Cubs fully intend to run two DSL teams into the forseeable future. 

     
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    Of the 11 new guys, I'm leaning on Marino Sandy and Jerry Torres to be the most likely to reach full-season ball or get traded 

     
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    OF Ian Miller (outrighted to the minors on 9/3) elected free-agency just prior to the 10/15 deadline, and the Cubs have signed RHRP Juan Gamez (who they released on 9/9) to a 2021 minor league contract. 

     
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    Phil, were you watching from outside the stadium?

     
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