Cubs @ Marlins: Lackey vs Clemens (Game 73)

Submitted by CTSteve on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 6:11am

We're back...back in the saddle again.

I was going to make a Phish reference, but their lyrics are all pretty dumb. Sorry, Phishheads.

CHC (48-24): RHP John Lackey (7-3, 2.78)
MIA (39-35): RHP Paul Clemens (0-0, 5.40)
First pitch: 3:10pmCST

Lackey lost to the Cards on Monday (6 IP, 3 ER, 6 K, 3 BB). He’s 2-1 with a 1.75 this month. The Marlins are 45-159 (.283) against him. Suzuki is 36-119 with a HR. Stanton has never faced him.

Clemens has had one appearance this year, a no-decision against the Rockies (5 IP, 3 ER, 2 K, 3 BB). The former Astro has been kicking around the minor leagues and until this week had not seen big league action since August 2014. Ross has a hit in an AB against him, and Zobrist is 0-3. Clemens is fortunate to face the Cubs at less than 100%, although there’s still a pretty good chance that he gets creamed.

Hammel (7-3, 2.55) versus Fernandez (9-3, 2.36) at 12:10pmCST tomorrow.

Go Cubs!

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Submitted by Eric S  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 12:46pm  
Rizzo in, Zobrist out, Willson in LF, Montero back and Almora batting 9th ... let's score some runs

Submitted by johann  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 2:13pm  
Contreras seems pretty adamant he'll play anywhere Madden wants him to so as long as he stays hot and with all the injuries it'll be pretty nice to have yet another bat Madden can move around. As far as him catching one of the things I noticed during the Lackey start is he seemed afraid to go out to the mound to talk to Lackey when he was struggling. I heard a Lester interview this week where he said one of the great things about Ross is he knows how to push Lester until he's close to getting punched without getting there, and Lester said that helps him a lot. Hammel sent a tweet a few weeks back cracking a joke about sending Ross to the All Star game so he can yell at other pitchers. Montero has been sucking in a lot of things this year but I can also tell he has no problems going out to the mound to get on to a pitcher if they are sucking and I'm sure he does that in the background too and those kind of mound visits seem to usually help get a pitcher back on track. I bet it's really hard for a young catcher to come up and learn to have that sort of dynamic with someone like Lackey so I think it's a good thing if he catches Hendricks and Hammel a bit more than he does Lackey until he gets comfortable with the hard ass aspect of managing a pitching staff.

Submitted by billybucks  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 5:12pm  
Time to scrap the scouting report on Justin Bour and get a new one. Sheesh.

Submitted by The E-Man  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 5:14pm  
I remember AZ PHIL talking about Bour's power during the Hendry era.

Submitted by Old and Blue  on Sun, 06/26/2016 - 7:39am  
He reminds me of a little of a young guy currently on the Cubs' DL, who is also tank-like in appearance.

Submitted by Brick  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 5:42pm  
Someone talk me down here.

Submitted by Jackstraw  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 5:56pm  
It's a long season. There will be stretches like this. It's Saturday night. Drink copiously but responsibly.

Submitted by Brick  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 6:12pm  
"Drink copiously but responsibly." Done and done. Thanks for that.

Submitted by Old and Blue  on Sun, 06/26/2016 - 7:54am  
Also, I'd like to know if there are numbers to back up my suspicion that there are a lot more fast starts than late June romps. This seems like a time where everybody not named Willson Contreras is looking a little tired and/or banged up a bit. For once, the Cubs got off to a fast start. Seems like I've been waiting for that for 50 years.Everybody is really gunning for this team, too. It's their playoffs.

Submitted by billybucks  on Sun, 06/26/2016 - 3:14pm  
Cubs have no spark and no life. Pretty boring to watch these days.

Submitted by billybucks  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 7:23pm  
- The pressure of going for the regular-season wins record is now gone. - Joe will come up with more wacky dress-up ideas for the team to wear after they lose their next get-away game. - There is more clarity on Spencer Patton. - We play the Reds next. They aren't very good. - We'll have at least a 9 game lead after today. EDIT: - Contreras looks like the real deal. Other than that, not much -- nasty stretch. Two ugly losses in the last 4 games. Ugh -- give Lackey a 4-1 lead, you hope for better.

Submitted by Brick  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 6:12pm  
"The pressure of going for the regular-season wins record is now gone." Brilliant. Maddon is a genius!

Submitted by billybucks  on Sun, 06/26/2016 - 9:19am  
Also -- despite losing 6 of their last 10, the Cubs picked up a game on both STL and PIT during that period. Weird, given that they swept PIT and were swept by STL.

Submitted by Brick  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 5:55pm  
That valuable RBIGIDP.

Submitted by Eric S  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 6:03pm  
Oil Can Boyd now pitching for the Cubs

Submitted by The E-Man  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 6:17pm  
HAHAHA! I love it here! Brilliant...

Submitted by Eric S  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 6:20pm  
I forgot how rail thin skinny Carl Edwards Jr. Is - he threw some nasty stuff - hope that continues

Submitted by The E-Man  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 6:26pm  
Joe: "We lost. They beat us. Now where's my '09 Guigal Bordeaux glass...?

Submitted by billybucks  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 9:24pm  
Duane Underwood now 0-5 with a 5.44 ERA for Tenn. Urp. Warren not sharp at Iowa tonight. When will Cease and Hudson be ready? On a positive note, Jiminez with his 10th HR tonight. He has a .924 OPS -- the only player in the league with an OPS over .900. Leads the lead in 2B, SLG and OPS, tied for the league lead in HR and 3rd in Avg. Nice!

Submitted by QuietMan  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 9:48pm  
Former Major League All-Star Jim Hickman dies at 79 http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/2016/0...

Submitted by The E-Man  on Sun, 06/26/2016 - 12:15pm  
Ahhh...sad. Lke a few of you here, I saw him play during the '69-'71 seasons. He was the "hot Zobrist" for the club in August/September of '69 while everyone else was fizzling out...

Submitted by VirginiaPhil  on Mon, 06/27/2016 - 1:46pm  
Yeah, I have fond memories of old #28. He was a good field, no hit CF when he came up with the Mets, but later on in Chicago he had learned how to work the count and then demolish 3-2 fastballs. (Wish Javy Baez had the concept.) I remember, in '69 or '70, someone (maybe Durocher) saying that Hickman and Joe Torre were about the two best righty hitters in the league.

Submitted by crunch  on Sat, 06/25/2016 - 10:52pm  
draft signings are trickling in...rounds 6-9 are signed + a random slew of others. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/index.php filter by team.

Submitted by cubbies.4ever  on Sun, 06/26/2016 - 9:28am  
There's some BA is missing too, here's all signing bonus BA doesn't have some: -6 Hockin $241,000 (slot price), 7 Cruz $75,000 (saved $110,00), 8 Ridlings $120,000 (saved $53,800), 9 Robinson $30,000 (saved $132,300), so far the Cubs have saved an extra $297,100

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  • crunch 8 hours 45 min ago (view)

    hah!  also uggg...i wonder what $20m-ish of k.bryant after a down season and uncertainty of april-june for "normal" baseball is worth to a team.  we will probably find out in a month or 2, though.

     
  • Charlie 11 hours 23 min ago (view)

    What's that, crunch? Kris Bryant for Robinson Canoe? Bold call!

     
  • George Altman 13 hours 47 min ago (view)

    Phil, you used to put out a Top 10 or 20 Prospect list around the end of the AFL. Sometimes you would update mid year if trades or draft warranted. This is not false praise...your lists were more impactful than BA, MLB, BP to me, let alone the Cubs fan board lists. Today, the only thing I give any credence to are your evaluations and Fan Graphs Top 40. If the evaluator has only watched video then, hell, I can watch video.

     
  • crunch 17 hours 24 min ago (view)

    there is no way the 2-3 guys that created most of those cubs reports have seen much more than youtube video footage as far as "live" scouting.

    they seem very dedicated and eager, but there are some questionable things in their scouting reports.

     
  • Wrigley Rat 18 hours 10 min ago (view)

    I'd REALLY enjoy reading Phil's list with scouting reports!!! I'd definitely trust his ratings more than most!

    Here is what the ProspectsLive.com website says about seeing the players: "Our evaluation team has spent countless hours filling these boards with highly in-depth scouting reports from live looks and film study."

    Either way, in my opinion, it's good to read other people's evaluations, even when they vary from our own. It gets us thinking about how confident we are in our valuations and how much we're willing to modify them based on other people's reports!

     
  • Hagsag 19 hours 49 min ago (view)

    Phil, I am sure you could put together a more realistic list.

     
  • Arizona Phil 20 hours 44 sec ago (view)

    No offense intended, but did anybody at this site actually see these guys play? 

    Chase Strumpf has only "40" power?!! Andy Weber even has more power than Strumpf? Seriously? Strumpf actually has plus-power. In fact, HR power is his #1 attribute. His power tool is probably at least "60" (maybe "65").   

    Both Ronnier Quintero and Aramis Ademan are "45" run? Really? Ademan has average speed ("50"), and Quintero is Miguel Montero 2.0. His run tool is probably "30" (on a good day). Quintero's plus raw tools are arm and power.  

     
  • Hagsag 1 day 59 min ago (view)

    Thanks for the info.

     
  • Wrigley Rat 1 day 11 hours ago (view)

    I just discovered this site: https://www.prospectslive.com/lists/2020/11/16/chi... (Sorry if you all know about it already!). 52 Cubs prospects listed with scouting reports! Really enjoying this one! :)

     
  • crunch 1 day 12 hours ago (view)

    we all knew trades were coming...getting rid of 1-2 of the core, but at this point i wonder how much (if any) of that free'd up loot is going back into the team.

     
  • Charlie 1 day 14 hours ago (view)

    He clearly did not want to be remembered for selling off the core and then walking away from the team a year later. Can't blame him.

     
  • crunch 1 day 15 hours ago (view)

    every other contender is full of rumor news for who they'll sign...and the hot cubs rumor is kris bryant won't be traded before the wednesday arb offer deadline.  wee.

     
  • Arizona Phil 1 day 18 hours ago (view)

    jdrnym: The MLB contracts that are tendered on 12/2 via Central Tender Letter are are non-guaranteed contacts.

    And a player signed to a non-guaranteed contract who is released prior to MLB Opening Day receives 30 days salary (paid at the minor league rate for players with split contracts) if the player is released more than 15 days prior to Opening Day, or 45 days salary (paid at the MLB rate for players signed to split contracts) if the player is released 15 or fewer days prior to Opening Day as termination pay. 

     
  • jdrnym 1 day 20 hours ago (view)

    If a player signs one of those deals that allows a split salary or incentives to be included, does that get treated like an arbitration salary in that it's only partially guaranteed until Opening Day?

     
  • bradsbeard 5 days 6 hours ago (view)

    Great info. Thanks! 

     
  • Arizona Phil 5 days 6 hours ago (view)

    BRADSBEARD: What happens on 12/2 is each club submits what's called a "Central Tender Letter" to the MLB LRD listing which unsigned players on the club's MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) are being tendered a contract and which unsigned players are not being tendered a contract. 

    The CTL is sufficient as far as providing proof of contract tender.  

    For players being tendered contracts, the CTL must list the club's MLB salary offer, a minor league split salary offer (if the club so chooses), and performance bonuses (if any) the club is offering to the player.

     
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