Nationals @ Cubs: Roark vs Arrieta (NLDS Game 4)

WAS (1-2): RHP Tanner Roark (0-0, —)
CHC (2-1): RHP Jake Arrieta (0-0, —) 
First pitch: 3:00pmCST (TBS)

Arrieta left his last start early (Sept. 26 in St. Louis) with a strained hamstring. Let’s hope it holds up. He went 3 innings and gave up 3 runs and was tagged with the loss. 

He went 14-10 with a 3.53 for the season, including going 5-2 with a 2.90 at Wrigley. In 7 post-season starts, Arrieta has a 3.64 ERA. 

Jake gave up 5 ER in 4 innings and lost to the Nationals in DC in June. Overall, they are 32-134 (.239) against him. Rendon is 4-11; Murphy is 5-17. Lind and Werth have taken him deep.

Roark last pitched an inning of relief (Oct. 1) against the Pirates, in which he gave up 2 ER. He gave up 6 ER in 4.2 innings in Philly, for the loss. For the season, he went 13-11 with a 4.67. On the road, he went 7-5 with a 4.26.

He beat the Cubs at Wrigley in June (6.1 IP, 2 ER, 4 K, 3 BB). For their careers, they are 17-79 (.215) against him. Bryant is 5-11 with a HR. 

Hey, let’s close out the series at home—and on Trans’s birthday!

Go Cubs! 

Comments

Chance of rain today. Let's do our thing today. I don't want to look at that Strasberg guy again.

I brought my umbrella to work today, and it never rains when I do that.

How did that work?

Not great actually.

Cubs are due for a big offensive day. No nailbiters here, please.

What are the chances Lackey ends up pitching in this thing? Arrieta's recent hamstring injury and the impending rain do not bode well.

30m til gametime and it's officially in delay. supposedly it might get cancelled depending on what it looks like in 30m.

What a fucken scam. If they start the game at the normal day game time at Wrigley, 1:15, then they beat the rain no problem. But no, TBS, a fucken cable channel that NOBODY watches, gets to dictate the start time. And now the Nats get the advantage of pitching Strasburg on normal rest for game 4. Nice!

My jerk friends want to take me out to dinner to celebrate my 40th... right at the start of the Cubs game. The jerks!.  :)

In an absolute perfect world, this game gets delayed until maybe 9 central, and then the Cubs win.  In a next-to-perfect world, the game gets cancelled, but Dusty Baker decides to pitch Roark tomorrow anyway, and we win tomorrow.

Huh.  Tanner Roark and Jake Arrieta are the same pitcher.

This delay is wreaking havoc on planning when I should play hooky from work.

The answer to that is always right now. When you can frequently has a different answer.

Have to figure out when i need to arrive at my lucky sports bar, WS game 7, Dodger clincher last year, Friday and Monday of this series. I believe I am playoff undefeated at this place. Pure science. PS: i may be starting a Go Fund Me to cover my bar tab.

I'm hearing it is postponed until tomorrow at 3:08. I guess MLB wanted a 5 game series.

"Dusty Baker said he's not sure whether his team would go with Tanner Roark or Stephen Strasburg." Dusty should be fired if Strasburg doesn't pitch.

I guess Strasburg is feeling under the weather and will be held back until game five, if needed.

evidently there's some kind of "under the weather bug" going around the WAS clubhouse. germ warfare is the new moneysballs.

All part of The Plan part ][

So with the game postponed, should the Cubs go with Hendricks tomorrow? Couldn’t hurt to let Arrieta’s hammy get another day of rest. And if the Cubs can win this series without him, then he would be really well rested for the NLCS.

Maddon has said that Jake will start game four tomorrow.

This postponement is an epic benefit to the Nats. Guess Mother Nature is returning the favor for The Game 7 delay in WS.

Well, at least this way we get to use Strop and Davis tomorrow, who are really the only guys I'm comfortable with coming out of the pen. So unless Strasberg gets well and starts, I'm feeling pretty good about it. That is, of course, unless he comes out of the pen in the 4th to protect a 2 run lead till the 8th. That would really suck. So I think the easiest thing to do would be to score about 6 runs in the bottom of the 1st, before Dusty has time to warm anybody up.

My friend, the same thought crossed my mind yesterday: The rain giveth, the rain taketh away.

So, I asked my boss, "Can I leave a little early for the Cubs game this afternoon?" He said, with a grin, "As a salaried employee you are expected to to put in the work when needed. When things come up, you are a professional and we don't monitor that." Hopefully I can play that card tomorrow since I stayed today (and kept checking Jesse Roger's tweets for postponement). Wondering if there is any "momentum" lost - knowing that they have to face Stras again?

https://www.google.com/amp/mlb.nbcsports.com Dusty complained about: Hotel air conditioning making entire Nats team sick Nats changing hotels tonight, because they didn’t plan on staying in Chicago Wednesday Chicago mold making the entire Nats team sick including Strasburg

Dusty channeling his inner Craig Counsell. /smh

it's a bit more tame than it may seem. here's the video from the press conference... https://twitter.com/ABC7Erin/status/917890713...

This postponement really favors the Dodgers who don’t need any help as it is a already. Now the game 4 starters won’t be ready to go till game 3 of the NLCS. So I think it’s become even more important for the Cubs to clinch in game 4. Would be nice to have both Hendricks and Lester fresh for games 1 and 2 if they advance...

US eliminated from the World Cup. Wow. Just Wow.

I don't think enough Americans pay attention to sailing for us to ever win

Dude, the sailing race is the America's Cup. We always win that, it says so in the name. Plus, we invented boats.

all of this checks out as true. USA! USA! USA! USA!

I thought we only invented the canoe?

Speaking of canoes, I'm tired of seeing Michael Bradley paddling around midfield like a boy in a bathtub. Maybe we've seen him for the last time. The USMNT should follow the Cubs' example and clean house and go young. Way too many of these mediocre veterans play in the league of last resort, MLS.

Actually, we lost the last America's Cup event this summer to New Zealand. The event was held in Bermuda. Each win counted as a single point, 7 points were needed to win. NZ started at -1 for some reason and still outpointed Team Oracle by a 7-1 margin. The races I watched were not even close. Next event will be held in southern summer of 2021 off NZ somewhere. They use foiling catamarans (AC45) with a wing for a sail that can run at 40 knots. Impressive to watch.

Danged sabermetrics. I don't understand any of these newfangled statistics.

Only cups I care about are protective cups. Go baseballs.

+1 Ryno

I don't care.

mlb.com says Strasburg likely to start today

Hearing some noise that Strasburg will start, but I haven't seen it confirmed.

For a short time today, on Wikipedia, the owner, gm, and president of the Washington Nationals was listed as Anthony Rizzo. I hit refresh and it changed back to Mike Rizzo. I wish I would have gotten a screenshot.

I thought Anthony Rizzo owns the Nats.

im all for rizzo owning the nats today.

mlb.com says Strasburg is going to start today

the feed looks like there's a blur filter on every camera. woo rain.

the wind blowing in is cruel. russell hit the living hell out of a catch at the wall.

crunch, I got a bird's eye view from my seats in the Outfield Boxes Section 403 (the next section is a fire station), and the ball got to its highest point and you could just see the wind stop it and guide it down into the glove.

yeah, that was no cheapie hit. on a no-wind day that would probably be out of every park in MLB.

with trea turner + schwarb playing i decided to revisit that 2014 draft. i was hoping the cubs would snag aaron nola (best college pitcher not named carlos rodon), but it's hard to argue about snagging the best college power bat. 1st overall pick braidy aiken threw 132ip 134h 101bb 89k (yes, 101bb) in A ball. ow. 2nd overall pick tyler kolek (MIA) missed all of 2016 with TJ surgery he had in april 2016, but he didn't make it back til august 2017 where he totally crapped himself with a line of 3.2ip 4h 14bb 1k (yes, 14bb) in 5 appearances (4 starts) in rookie ball. ow. heavily cubs-linked alex jackson (6th overall) put up a "meh" season of .267/.328/.480 split between A+/AA, but he did it as a 21 year old playing a bit over his head.

Well, with Addy's error, Cubs have "blinked" first. Hopefully the guys can pick Addy up like they did for Schwarber a couple days ago. Could see Lackey possibly getting an appearance today given Jake's high early pitch count.

Monty warming up - definitely prefer him over Lackey

stop...sliding...into...first...base...

Strasburg 1, Chicago Mold 0

lester, eh? alright.

Cubs kicked in the nuts by that Strasburg changeup

Every time a Cub struck out, the board said "88 mph changeup." It was brutal. Ya gotta give the guy credit. And it also seemed that every time the bleacherites chanted "Stras-burg...Stras-burg" he kicked it up a notch.

Jon F'ing Lester....

.... .... ....fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

I presume you refer to the g**** s*** by the eighth-place hitter on a night in which several guys hit drives that would be out of the park on a neutral evening. The ballpark was silent, as everybody there "knew" the wind would knock it down. Happ went up, and when he didn't come down with the ball, there was a brief ballpark-wide WTF moment. Even the scoreboard hesitated. The guy next to me said, "You know, the wind died down for a few seconds just as that happened." I leave you all to your metaphysical/theological/existential reflection on that...

lame.

I remain amazingly calm. Not that I think the Cubs will win the series, but that I just don't care nearly as much so soon after last year. Bummer that the rain really changed the dynamic of the series though.

Especially if the Cubs lose tomorrow, there will be a zillion chin-puller essays (FanGraphs, go!) about Cub fans and the difference made after 2016. I have been a Cub fan for 52 years, so I need say no more. The championship was a miracle, a dispersal of demons, the elimination of a curse. So now what? I think, just speaking for myself, that I will remain a fanatical Cub fan, but what happens in the postseason won't be the kind of apocalyptic event that a failure in Game Seven in 2016 would have been. I still will acknowledge the magnitude of what has happened--Dear Lord, I have attended Cubs postseason games for three years--in a row!--but there will, for me, always be the detachment brought about by the fact that THEY WON THE WORLD SERIES!

theo needs to kick it oldschool...order KFC and make a phone call to Binny's Beverage Depot for a clubhouse liquor delivery.

I concur with my man Krausened. The era of consistent playoffs is -- incredibly! -- here. No matter what happens tonight, it has been a great three-year run, and most of the group will be back for several more years. Knocking out the Brewers and Cardinals at the end of the season was awesome. I am obviously hoping the season continues after tonight, but, if not, I will at peace with it. At least, eventually. Plus, there's no crying in baseball.

This is all my fault as I just secured tickets to game 1 in LA on Saturday.

Congrats to TBS -- they get exactly what they wanted -- Cubs in a prime-time Game 5. Good corporate decision not to move the game up and get it played yesterday at 1:00pm. Assholes.

Thank you.

I know I'm commenting more tonight than I have in all my years on TCR, but I was there and I'm working through the experience. (And just took my winter jacket out of the drier. Thank heaven for years of freezing at Wrigley.) I also know that this is completely a First World Problem, but I hate the way the TV networks jerk around the people who buy tickets for the Division Series. It's clear that we are literally window dressing for their broadcasts.

2003 type Cubbery there. Goodness

Hard to believe that all happened in the 8th inning, eh? Yeesh that inning has sucked all freaking year.

I was just about to say...Theo's primary job this off-season is to get the 8th inning eliminated next year. Kind of like a lot of high-rise elevators have no 13th floor. Get it done, Theo. In 4 games, Cubs have given up 9 runs in the 8th inning and 3 in all other innings combined. Not like we weren't aware of the issue, but, yikes.

Pretty amazing how often the 8th inning has devoured us. And how often Edwards Jr. is right in the middle of it.

I've posted this before, but this is why the Cubs got Justin Wilson. He was supposed to be the reliable 8th inning guy who can close when Wade Davis isn't available, and then be the Cubs closer in 2018 after Davis is gone. 

It's become clear to me that while Edwards may have the stuff to be a future closer, he doesn't have whatever that "thing" is that can't be measured by sabermetrics that separates great stuff from being a great closer. You could just see him get rattled and his control disappear.

I agree that Edwards seems perceptibly rattled at times. Not sure if you are saying he's not closer material right now or he's not the type of person to become a great closer, but I would point out that at Edwards's age, Davis was putting up mediocre numbers as a starting pitcher. I'm still hoping Edwards can grow into more confidence and consistency as he gets more experience.

You're right, its too early to say and I'm probably overreacting with recency bias. Maybe he can grow into it, hopefully, but the Cubs shouldn't go into next year counting on that growth. Initial indications are that he's not a natural ice in the veins type of dude.

I would have to throw my hat in there - he needs real mentorship by a closer he can relate to. Maybe that is Davis if Theo doesn't sign Bryce Harper.

What I think I see with Edwards is he's fine as long as he's good. I'm trying to remember him getting in trouble and then getting out of trouble. It must have happened over his 70 or so appearances, but it seems once he gets in trouble he stays in trouble.

WAS gets harper 1 more season. he would be an interesting compliment to G-rated, non-drinking, high-end young power hitting, also las vegas native kris bryant.

8th inning aside. Pretty much impossible to win a game with O runs, 3 hits and 14Ks

For those of you that weren't there tonight, you should know that there were times that drizzle "sheets" descended upon Wrigley. Very difficult playing conditions. I was hoping that they could keep it to one run, but fuck, pro hitter Murphy keeps their inning alive. I wanted Lester to finish the inning and didn't get my wish. But 12 Stras Ks, I don't know if they had much of a chance with that shit. Too bad for Addy, bad E-6.

You're right, E, that it was nasty. Maybe Addy's error was partly due to a wet ball, though he did kind of circle it; anyway, it was a boot. And you're also right that Strasburg's performance-- in spite of mold--would have been hard to overcome.

Could be worse -- we could be Indians fans. Brutal exit 2 years in a row -- up 3-1 in the WS last year, and lose 3 straight, including Games 6 and 7 at home. Up 2-0 in the ALDS this year, and lose 3 straight, including Game 5 at home. Ouch.

"Happiness at the misfortune of others." That IS German! Wrigley now resides at Clark, Addison, & Avenue Q.

I am so glad i bought a sports sync radio and do not have to listen to the idiots on TV.

Lots of very low Cubs batting averages this series -- that will happen when you face Strasberg and Scherzer 3 games out of 4.

Man, if the Cubs can pick off one win on a non-Scherz/Stras day, the story to this series will have to be how they outlasted the Nat's overpowering top of the rotation.

We need those bats to bust out big time today, and early!!

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  • bradsbeard 8 hours 57 min ago (view)

    Things won't get easier for him pitching outside of the former AT&T park, though Chase isn't the band box it was before they installed a humidor a couple years ago. 

     

  • crunch 9 hours 53 min ago (view)

    dbacks snag m.bumgarner for 5/85m (17m/yr).

    didn't realize he'd be coming that cheaply.  the longball stung him last year, but he was healthy and his stuff looked good when it wasn't flying over a fence.

     

  • crunch 1 day 11 hours ago (view)

    MLB is very much swinging their power over minor league teams around.

     

  • tim815 1 day 12 hours ago (view)

    Normally, it's because the minor fee they receive is of more value than they think they will be able to acquire later.

     

  • JustSayin' 1 day 13 hours ago (view)

    My, the negotiations for a new comprehensive agreement between MLB and MiLB are sounding nasty all of a sudden!  I'd be interested in other takes on this.  It's easy to see the risks on the MiLB side.  I wonder though, if MLB isn't playing with fire as far as the antitrust exemption goes?  In case Trump isn't president in January, 2021, the MLB owners lose a friend.  We've already heard from Sanders and Warren supporting MiLB on this -- which is pretty amazing, considering how many bigger problems this country has -- and one can guess where mayor Pete stands.

     

  • bradsbeard 1 day 19 hours ago (view)

    I'm also thinking they really didn't anticipate losing two players in the MLB portion of the Rule 5 and wanted to have more flexibility to pick guys, and they maybe figured Carrera had a better shot to go unpicked. It is a little surprising that the talent rich Rays are the ones who grabbed him. 

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 1 day 20 hours ago (view)

    It's just strange because they had space. maybe they thought no one would have wanted him?

     

  • bradsbeard 2 days 4 hours ago (view)

    Best I can think is that maybe he was going to be squeezed out of a starting role next year with 2019 draftees and other lower level pitching pushing up into A ball. Doesn't seem like a great reason, but the pitching in the system is getting more crowded each year.

     

  • crunch 2 days 12 hours ago (view)

    i truly wonder why f.carrera wasn't more of a priority.

    he throws straight up junk, but he's got great control and command over his pitchers.  he's young enough that he could find some more velocity, too.

    i mean, this is a management team that decided to trade for dan haren and kyle hendricks.  they don't have an aversion to slow-tossing starters.

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 2 days 13 hours ago (view)

    Has anyone else noticed James Norwood's picture on the Cubs top 30 prospects page is actually Brandon Kintzler?

     

  • Arizona Phil 2 days 15 hours ago (view)

    It's always interesting to see how many players each MLB club protects on its AAA affiliate's 38-man reserve list on 11/20.

    I'm not saying it absolutely and necessarily proves what a club thinks of its own prospects, but there are 38 slots available on a AAA reserve list, and if you leave 15 slots open, I think that does say something, especially when you don't lose anybody in either the MLB Phase or in the AAA Phase. (I'm looking at you, Seattle Mariners!) 

     

  • Arizona Phil 2 days 16 hours ago (view)

    HAGSAG: Instructs starts next month. The pitching lab operates year round, so guys are always coming & going. 

     

  • Hagsag 2 days 18 hours ago (view)

    Phil, when does the Instructional program begin? Are there pitchers in the pitching lab now?

     

  • cubbies.4ever 3 days 5 hours ago (view)

    Just to continue my conspiracy theory that Theo has a requirement you have TJS to pitch for the Cubs Trevor Megill had it in 2013.  The Cubs must have a support group for pitchers who have had TJS.

     

  • Arizona Phil 3 days 7 hours ago (view)

    After losing two players off the Iowa reserve list in the Major League Phase and selecting four players in the AAA Phase, the Iowa reserve list has one slot open, so now would be an excellent time to try and outright C. D. Pelham to AAA.

    Keep in mind that he can't elect free-agency if he's outrighted, and if he is outrighted, he won't be a minor league free-agent until post-2021.

    And if he gets claimed off waivers? No big deal.  

     

  • Arizona Phil 3 days 7 hours ago (view)

    LHSP Faustino Carrera and 2B Carlos Sepulveda were among the first players signed by the Cubs out of Mexico in 2014-15. The Cubs ended up signing more than two dozen more Mexican players over the next three years.