Cubs Post-2019 Draft-Excluded Players

So with the Cubs selecting the contract of LHRP Danny Hultzen from AAA Iowa today, Hultzen becomes the Cubs first 2019 Draft-Excluded Player.  

In addition to being a Draft-Excluded Player (which limits what the Cubs can do with him in the off-season, especially after the conclusion of the Rule 5 Draft), Hultzen is also out of minor league options (so he can't be optioned to Iowa if he doesn't make the Cubs 2020 Opening Day 25-man roster), and he can elect free-agency if he is outrighted (because he has been outrighted previously in his career).


MLB RULE 6: DRAFT -EXCLUDED PLAYER

A "Draft-Excluded Player" is any minor league player who has accrued less than three years of MLB Service Time and who is eligible for selection in the MLB Rule 5 Draft, whose contract is selected, and who is added to an MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) between August 15th and the Rule 5 Draft.

1. A Draft-Excluded Player can be non-tendered on 12/2, released, or traded at any time, but he cannot be sent to the minors by Optional Assignment beginning with the conclusion of the MLB regular season up until 20 days prior to MLB Opening Day.

2. A Draft-Excluded Player can be sent outright to the minors only if Outright Assignment Waivers are requested no later than 2 PM (Eastern) on the 5th day following the final game of the World Series, and if a Draft-Excluded Player is not outrighted to the minors prior to the Rule 5 Draft, the player cannot be Designated for Assignment or sent outright to the minors any earlier than 20 days prior to the start of the MLB regular season.

CUBS PLAYERS WITH POST-2019 RULE 6 DRAFT-EXCLUDED STATUS: (last updated 9-7-2019)
Danny Hultzen, LHP  

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OF Mark Zagunis made it through waivers and he has been sent outright to AAA Iowa; 

Two good things about outrighting Zagunis are that he cannot elect free-agency if outrighted - AND - he is not eligible to be a minor leaue 6YFA until post-2020, so the Cubs will have him under control through next season (presuming he isn't selected in the Rule 5 Draft).

However, it is unlikely that Zagunis will get selected in the Rule 5 Draft in December since he wasn't claimed off waivers in September. ($100K Rule 5 Draft price vs $50K waiver claim price). 

Machado’s injury most unfortunate - he hurt it legging out an IF hit in the 1st inning AFTER the I-Cubs clinched their division last weeken. If he’d been enjoying a day off as other regs were that day he’d b in line for his just reward for a fine season - he’s a smooth ss & a patient hitter w/ some pop...

MIKE W: Yes, Dixon Machado would have been an ideal MLB SS replacement, now especially with the injury to Baez. Zack Short has MLB upside (especially defensively), but he lacks the experience of Machado. 

Nico Hoerner will be playing for the Mesa Solar Sox in the AFL starting in about a week, so if he lights it up there he conceivably could get called-up to MLB in the post-season.

Note that if Hoerner were to be called-up this season (either in September or during the post-season), he would get - FOUR - minor league options (2020-23) instead of the normal three, which would make a 2019 Hoerner call-up a bit less problematic for the Cubs.   

Russell hit in head by fastball to start 3rd. Looked ugly But replay shows glancing off some of helmet. Nosebleed but seems alert.  They let him stay in game. We shall see...then steals 2nd base!

and we’re tied on a Bote single then bad throw by Yelich. Then Lester doubles, 2-1 Lead! Zobrist doubles, 3-1.

Not only are we letting Milwaukee have life again, we’re letting the shitbirds extend the near insurmountable lead.

Gonna have to go at least 5-2 in last 7 vs StL.

Looks like Nico Hoerner might be heading to the big leagues: https://www.cubsinsider.com/2019/09/09/report-cubs... Need to make room for him on the 40-man & 25-man rosters. What impact will this have on his team control going forward Arizona Phil? Since it's late in the year, does he qualify for a 4th option?

I think 4th option is based on how many years since first entering professional baseball. I defer to AZP on that of course.

Excited to see what Hoerner can do, but I think this def costs someone who may have been protected from upcoming rule 5 draft their 40 man spot this November, as Hoerner wasn’t yet eligible for draft in that yet. Desperate times, though...

My guess would be Zack Short, because they could’ve called him up but brought up Hoerner instead.

He’d be my guess too. Him or Giambrone.

Presuming Nico Hoerner is added to the 40 this year, he will be eligible for a 4th minor league option in 2023.

It's somewhat similar to when the Cubs added Kris Bryant to the 40 in April 2015 or Ian Happ to the 40 in May 2017, in both cases two years before they were Rule 5 Draft eligible. Both had four minor league options available when they were added to the 40, but the projected 4th minor league option went away once Bryant and Happ spent a season on the 40 without being optioned. 

So Hoerner's 4th minor leaue option is only available in 2023 - IF - he uses three minor league options 2020-22.  

As for how this will impact the 40-man roster right now, the Cubs could just recall LHSP Justin Steele from his Optional Assignment and place him on the 60-day IL. (He has been out since June with an oblique or lat strain). With only three weeks left in the season, adding Steele would cost the Cubs about $60K in additional MLB payroll -- the difference between the MLB minimum salary ($3,000 per day) and Steele's first-year minor league split salary (about $250 per day) over 21 days. Steele would also accrue about 21 days of MLB Service Time (no big deal at this point), but accruing MLB Service Time in 2019 would mean that the Cubs would not be able to outright Steele to the minors during the off-season or during Spring Training if he were to suffer a major injury (again, probably not that big of a deal in the big picture).  

Or LHRP Randy Rosario (who has seemingly been supplanted on the Cubs MLB roster by Brad Wieck and Danny Hultzen and at AAA Iowa by Wyatt Short and Jordan Minch) could get DFA'd, especially since he will be out of minor league options in 2020 and thus will have no value as a Des Moines - Chicago shuttle-rider.  

As for how adding Hoerner to the 40 will impact who the Cubs add (or don't added) to the 40 on 11/20  (pre-Rule 5 Draft), it probably means either SS Zack Short or INF-OF Trent Giambrone will not be added to the 40 (both were 50/50 to get added). 

Calling up Nico Hoerner now probably means that either Zack Short or Aramis Ademan will get Hoerner's slot in the AFL. Both would benefit from playing in the AFL (it would help the Cubs make a 40-man roster decision on Z. Short more easily because they can watch him hit against upper-level pitching for six weeks and Ademan just needs more reps against more-advanced pitchers so that he will be more-ready to advance to AA in 2020). 

Upon further review, I would call up both Nico Hoerner - AND - Zack Short, so that you can pinch-hit for one and still have the other one available to play SS (both are legit shortstops). 

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  • crunch 21 hours 13 min ago (view)

    nice.

    it's not like i think he's something special, but if he had 5mph more on his stuff he'd probably be a top prospect in the system combined with his command/control.  he's got highly repeatable junk and he's still young enough there might be a little more velocity to discover.

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 27 min ago (view)

    CRUNCH: As long as Carrera is placed on the AAA Iowa reserve list on 11/20 he should be safe from selection, and I would say he is in fact close to a lock to be placed on the Iowa roster.

    Presuming he is on the Iowa reserve list going into the Rule 5 Draft, I doubt very much that he would get selected in the Major League Phase because he hasn't pitched above Lo-A. 

     

  • crunch 1 day 38 min ago (view)

    nice info...

    i'm low-key keeping an eye on faustino carrera if he's not protected...which he may not be protected.

    he throws junk, but he throws it well, and with great control.

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 56 min ago (view)

    I've talked to Player Development people over the past many years about the Rule 5 Draft and how an organization goes about deciding whether to protect or not protect a player from selection. 

    STEP 1: How many of your Rule 5 Draft-eligible players are actually legit candidates to get selected in the Major League Phase?. Usually there a dozen or more who could conceivably/realisticaly get selected. You need to identify them and then carefully evaluate them. 
    EXAMPLES: See my lists above. 

     

  • crunch 1 day 3 hours ago (view)

    "There are no untouchables," Epstein said.

    In truth, the Cubs boss has said the same every year, but it certainly sounds like he means it this time. "We're in the 'information collecting' stages of the process," one general manager put it on Tuesday.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28066390/there...

     

  • Dolorous Jon Lester 2 days 5 hours ago (view)

    I think, in relation to the higher profile guys like Javy or Contreras, they're trying to put some pressure on to sign extensions.

    That said I do think they're listening on everyone with the only name I haven't seen being Rizzo.

     

  • crunch 2 days 22 hours ago (view)

    i wonder where the cubs will go with things.

    there's a lot pointing to the cubs being expected to listen to offers on almost anyone.  as it is, on paper, the cubs could roll right into 2020 with no changes whatsoever and still field a very competitive team.  the whole "shakeup" thing seems to be a very hot topic from a variety of sources, though.

    bryant, contreras, schwarber have all been linked to "cubs may be listening" rumors...probably listening to anything on happ, bote, almora, russell, too...

     

  • Hagsag 2 days 22 hours ago (view)

    Even the Cubs should be able to out bid the Marlins!

     

  • crunch 2 days 22 hours ago (view)

    "According to Joe Frisaro of MLB.com, the Marlins are "believed" to have interest in free agent outfielder Nicholas Castellanos."

    by interest, i assume they mean they'd like to have some baseball rookie cards or his or maybe a hug from him.  i can't imagine they actually want to spend money on someone they could use to make their team better because that makes no sense.

     

  • Arizona Phil 3 days 15 hours ago (view)

    Prior to joining the Cubs in 2012 Scott Harris was Director of Baseball Operations in the MLB office, which means he received, reviewed, and approved all major league and minor league contracts and transactions, as well as providing MLB clubs with schedules, rules updates, and draft information. 

     

  • Cubster 3 days 23 hours ago (view)

    Giants hire Scott Harris, from Cubs front office,  as GM

     

  • Charlie 5 days 1 hour ago (view)

    For anyone else who immediately wonders but is not invested enough to look it up, this is not Chris (Ryan) Young, former Padres starter and fisticuffs partner of Derrek Lee, but rather the two-years younger Chris Matthew Young.

     

  • crunch 5 days 12 hours ago (view)

    rev up those off-season rumor fryers...

    Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
    Multiple teams in search of catching help believe Cubs catcher Willson Contreras will be available this winter. The Cubs will get creative this winter, and with a deep catching free agent market, they could trade Contreras and begin retooling under new manager David Ross.

     

  • crunch 5 days 17 hours ago (view)

    former padres manager andy green is gonna be ross's bench coach.

    green was c.rea's manager in SD, btw.

     

  • Arizona Phil 5 days 23 hours ago (view)

    Last year the Cubs signed four free-agents to minor league contracts prior to the Rule 5 Draft: LHP Alberto Baldonado, OF Wynton Bernard, RHP Corey Black, and RHP Jose Rosario. All four were members of the Cubs organization in 2018 but declined to sign a 2019 minor league successor contract prior to being declared a free-agent, but then came back to the Cubs after briefly testing the free-agent waters. 

     

  • crunch 6 days 4 hours ago (view)

    chris young to be named new bullpen coach (former phillies pitching coach)

    mixed messages on whether lester strode will have a new cubs role or leaving the cubs...