The Astros*



* Cheated throughout the 2017 season including the World Series.

 

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Now that Astrogate is resolved can we PLEASE get a ruling on the KB grievance?!? 3 months? Seriously? Who's the indecisive hearing officer, Hank Kimball from Green Acres? Jeez, flip a coin already!

Earnest T. Bass I believe.

The Houston Astro-isks?

Well done! 👏  Astro-isks beats TrashCanGate in my mind.

Both piggy-backing off of CubbyBlue.  Or at least I was.

Yeah but that person figured out a way to make a profit off of it, so... hey WAIT!

...and now alex cora has been fired...or rather, "mutually parted ways" is the story they're going with.

this was over the top cheating.  houston deserves to lose those draft picks and people deserved to get fired.

the players were at fault, too, but i don't really care if they never pay a price for it aside from fan scorn.

If they cheated in a major why, why aren't they required to forfeit?

you're far from the only voice asking that one.  i haven't seen an official statement, myself...dunno if there will be one.

I'm most curious what happens with Beltran as new Mets managerial hire.

His punishment is having to manage the mets. 

The investigation says Astros cheating all through 2017 including the World Series. Then Cora managing Boston for '18. You've read that the deal from MLB with the other teams is "you're not allowed to say anything". God. Not a Dodger fan but that's one royal screwing. Plaschke at LATIMES says, "Seriously, why is it that Commissioner's Trophy still in their Houston offices? Why can't they at least have the decency to give it back? Better yet, the worthless thing should be tossed in a dugout trash can that the Dodgers can bang with a bat."
https://lat.ms/2u22bf2

carlos beltran "steps down" from the mets manager job

Q is in midseason form getting blasted in the first! Maybe the Yankees are desperate enough to take him off our hands. Could get us under the tax silliness too.

Unrelatedly, does it weird anyone else out to see SOUZA 21 on a jersey in RF?

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  • JustSayin' 5 hours 35 min ago (view)

    The organizations will cut rosters down, as if the full-season teams were breaking camp to start the season, THEN pay the remaining minor leaguers $400/week or whatever.  That's similar to what costs would have normally been but the "one last chance" players who got spring training invitations this year and didn't have an obvious roster spot won't be getting their last chance.

     

  • crunch 7 hours 7 min ago (view)

    "According to Jeff Passan of ESPN, all minor league players will be receiving $400 per week from MLB through at least May 31."

    so that's where that promise landed.  the scary thing is that's still more than some in the low minors make on a weekly basis.

     

  • crunch 2 days 23 hours ago (view)

    "Jeff Passan of ESPN writes that the players and league agreed that the 2020 season won't start until "there are no bans on mass gatherings that limit the ability to play in front of fans, there are no travel restrictions and medical experts determine games will not pose a risk to health of teams and fans." Passan does add that the two sides "will consider the feasibility of playing in empty stadiums" and also at neutral sites.

     

  • crunch 3 days 5 hours ago (view)

    i miss baseball.  it could happen in june...it may happen in late may...it might not happen either way.

    there's so many things getting messed up right now i would get lost making a list.  there's some college guys making a serious "okay, we need to look at that guy" push that's dead.  former cubs draft pick russell smith (2017, LHP highschool) took last season off for injury (TCU college) and returned with a low 90s fastball, impressive control, and a MLB-quality changeup.  his "comeback" was 4 games and done thanks to this current situation...

     

  • JustSayin' 3 days 7 hours ago (view)

    COVID 19 + a short draft + Manfred's obsessive drive to shrink the minor leagues will change baseball forever.  It WAS still America's grass roots sport.  Where I live, from June through August, you could see a quality live game any day of the week, within an hour's drive.  I believe that era is over.  What's going on will have ripple effects, contracting serious college ball, college summer leagues and independent pro ball just as much as the MiLB systems.  With those changes, some of the game's charm will also go.  I've seen a kid from Cape Cod play in the Ca

     

  • crunch 4 days 5 hours ago (view)

    fyi for anyone who bought MLB.tv

    for "some reason" getting a cancel+refund via phone is like pulling teeth, but if you contact them via a webpage contact request many people are getting a cancel+refund confirmation within an hour or 2...

     

  • bradsbeard 4 days 13 hours ago (view)

    I imagine because the new labor agreement freezes rosters as of whenever the agreement is approved by the owners and it might affect what those guys are paid under the agreement. 

     

  • Hagsag 4 days 14 hours ago (view)

    AZ Phil. what was the reason that a whole bunch of teams optioned or assigned players to the minor leagues yesterday on March 26 ? Thanks.

     

  • Arizona Phil 4 days 18 hours ago (view)

    jdrnym: Ordinarily, players on an MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) who are on Optional Assignment to the minors do not accrue MLB Service Time, are paid at the minor league rate rather than at the MLB rate if the player has a "split" contract, and if the player gets hurt or becomes sick after being optioned, he can be placed on a minor league IL instead of on an MLB IL (so that he cannot accrue MLB Service Time or be paid at the MLB rate while he is on the IL). Also, a player who is optioned to the minors for at least 20 days will burn an option year.   

     

  • jdrnym 5 days 7 hours ago (view)

    AZPhil, what are the technical ramifications of optioning/not optioning guys during this period of no baseball? Seems like some teams are more eager than others to trim their roster down.

     

  • crunch 6 days 10 hours ago (view)

    "Major League Baseball has agreed with the MLBPA to grant a full year of service time to players in 2020 regardless of how many games the schedule includes.

    Rosenthal adds, however, that the two sides have agreed to "table discussions" on how much service time the players would receive if the worst-case scenario plays out and the 2020 season has to be canceled entirely due to the coronavirus pandemic."

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  • bradsbeard 1 week 1 day ago (view)

    This one has me scratching my head too. Surely they knew Lakins would have a hard time clearing waivers. Hate to just lose Pereda like that. Feels like they gave up more for Lakins than for Sadler, and I'm guessing Sadler might have been slightly more likely to clear waivers since he's out of options. 

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 week 1 day ago (view)

    I think the most puzzling aspect to the Travis Lakins Caper is that the only plausible reason for the Cubs to have struck a pre-emptive trade with the Red Sox instead of waiting and hoping to win a waiver claim is that the Cubs believed that another club with a better waiver claim priority would almost certainly claim him. So to ensure that they would be able to acquire Lakins, the Cubs must have offered the Red Sox something more than the $50,000 waiver price, otherwise there would have been no point in the Red Sox agreeing to the deal. 

     

  • crunch 1 week 1 day ago (view)

    RedSox acquire catcher Jhonny Pereda from the #Cubs, completing the January 21 trade for RHP Travis Lakins

    ...cubs lost lakins on waivers to BAL, btw

     

  • erich081 1 week 1 day ago (view)

    I wore my Rick Wilkins #2 shirsey today and kept thinking real baseball was only a week away. And then I remembered this weird alternate reality we've seemed to have slipped into. Hope everyone stays healthy and safe.

     

  • Hagsag 1 week 2 days ago (view)

    I am installing a padded room to sit in until this hell is over.