Cubs vs. Brewers: Series Thread (Games 16-19)

The Cubs start a 4-game home series with the second most wins and the best winning percentage in baseball. These 4 games give them a chance to add to their substantial early season lead in the division and to continue to beat up on their division rival, the Brewers.

Game 16, Thursday, Aug. 13

CHC: RHP Yu Darvish (2-1, 2.12 ERA)

MIL: LHP Brett Anderson (0-1, 5.40 ERA)

Yu Darvish was awesome in game one of the series and helped the Cubs to a 13-3 record. He earned his third win.

Game 17, Friday, Aug. 14

CHC: RHP Tyler Chatwood (2-1, 5.40 ERA)

MIL: RHP Brandon Woodruff (1-1, 2.53 ERA)

After two very strong starts to open the season, Chatwood did not have his good stuff in the third. He allowed 8 earned runs in only 2.1 innings to Kansas City. The good news was that he did not walk anybody. The bad news was that he allowed 11 hits including 2 homeruns.

Woodruff has allowed no more than 2 earned runs in each of his 4 starts so far, including a loss to the Cubs on July 24.

Game 18, Saturday, Aug. 15

CHC: RHP Alec Mills (2-0, 1.38 ERA)

MIL: RHP  Adrian Houser (1-1, 2.65 ERA)

Mills missed his last opportunity to pitch due to the Cardinals layoff. He'll be pitching for the first time in 11 days. He has kept run scoring to a minimum in his first two stats by mixing speeds and inducing weak contact. His performance filling in for Quintana is a big part of the tremendous start to 2020.

After two sterling performances to start the season, Houser lost his last start to Minnesota. He allowed 4 earned runs in 5 innings on 6 hits including a homerun.

Game 19, Sunday, Aug. 16

CHC: LHP Jon Lester (2-0, 1.06 ERA)

MIL: RHP Josh Linblom (1-0, 5.68 ERA)

Lester continued a streak of solid performances to start the season by holding Cleveland to one run in six innings. All three of his starts have approached masterful, lacking only duration to break into that next level. His strikeout rate has been low so far this year, but he has held opponents to only 7 hits in 17 innings.

Remember Josh Lindblom? He's back after two seasons in the KBO, now preparing for his 118th MLB appearance and 10th MLB start. So far this season he has struck out 20 batters but managed only 12.2 innings in three starts. He's also sported a 1.58 WHIP in that time and allowed 4 homeruns.

Following the series, the Cubs plan to continue the home stand with games against the Cardinals.


Brewers Game 1: KB (LF), Rizzo, Javy, Willson (DH), Happ, Bote (3B), Souza (RF), Nico, Caratini, Darvish

bryant was supposedly gonna be in the lineup but he has left ring finger and wrist hurties.

Well, shoot.

Here we go again: Nico, Rizzo, Javy, Willson, Schwarber (LF), Happ, Bote, Souza, Caratini

Not thrilled with Nico leading off when the greatest leadoff hitter in baseball history was available but whatever 

Don't get too giddy but...

One Quarter of the schedule is complete.

Pace is for a 48-12 record which when extrapolated to 162 games is about 130 win season.

Is it all downhill from here?

Cardinals at White Sox game tomorrow is possibly canceled per Sun-Times reporting that Bob Nightengale of USA Today and Joel Sherman of the New York Post reported the postponement.

I really think they could play .500 from here and would take the division.

But leave room for at least a week long slump due to bullpen implosion.

Wait.  The bullpen can get worse?  That's unpossible.

Updated Bullpen tiers:

Tier 1 (Closer/Firemen)

Wick and Jeffress (interchangeable)

Tier 2 (Preferred Setup roles)

Tepera, Sadler, Rea (!)

Tier 3 (Face lefties exclusively if possible)

Ryan (has to get that fastball out of mid-80s or head to South Bend)


Tier 4 (Long man innings eater)


Tier 10 (reserved for use when either up or down by 10+ runs)


I think that covers it?

I agree with all of this except maybe Tepera. I'd put him firmly in ??? territory. I feel like he's looked better than his results but it's hard to say given small sample size.

It's been fantastic how little use the pen has had (relatively) thanks to the starters going for six-seven innings. Hopefully Chatwood keeps the line moving tonight. 

"Not thrilled" if on cue, Nico leads off with a double and a later Schwarbsbomb.

Ha! Hope Nico goes on a heater!

Cubs to play double headers Monday and Wednesday against the Cardinals.


...well, it is true that's the plan...but...umm..."allegedly"

39 pitch inning by Burnes.

this team is amazing.  i want more than 60 games of this.  darvish since mid-season last year has been great stuff.

also, wick got to close.  kimbrel hasn't worked in quite a while.

David Ross might be worthy of a little credit, especially sorting out the bullpen issues.

Managerial change making a difference I think. Hopefully the changes to the amateur scouting department also bears fruit

"Chicago Cubs  @Cubs
Our Aug. 7-9 series at St. Louis has been rescheduled as three 7-inning doubleheaders at Wrigley Field.

#Cubs will be home team for Game 1. Cardinals home team for Game 2."

Jeebuz. 14 innings per day for 3 days straight? Am I reading that right?

Why not just postpone them until it's clear they matter?


Brewers Game 2: Happ, Rizzo, Javy, Schwarber, Willson, JHey, Bote, Kipnis (DH), Nico, Chatwood 

Yet again another change to the starting lineup as Chatwood has been pulled due to mid-back tightnes. Mills to start instead - no word on who will start tomorrow 

Not the best timing with the five game series in three days coming up with the Cards - perhaps Quintana will be ready to roll by then. 

can't say im unhappy chatwood is sitting...

he's looking way better this spring and most of this year, but it's still so damn erratic.

Ugh Quintana. I know we don't really have a better option (maybe Rea?).

rea it is.

it might be a "bullpen" game, though.  dunno if he'll get more than 1-2 innings.

On the one hand I bet he'd prefer to start so it's nice he's getting the chance. On the other, he didn't look all that impressive in spring training 1.0 stretched out to start and has looked much more like a big leaguer in the small sample we've seen of him out of the bullpen.

I do wonder who we are going to call up to eat innings for our "save the Cardinals" series. I'm thinking Alzolay, maybe Cotton?

Alec MIlls says hi, am I chopped liver?

Hoerner and Happ both walk in the 5th (entire inning has had deep counts), a sequence of beauty (if you are into RBI walks). Then Rizzo unloads (I kid, a bloop single for another run). Woodruff gone after no-hitter thru 4.

this got good and bad real quick.

only down by 1...good amount of game left to play.

starlin castro (WAS) broke his wrist diving for a ball @2nd.  he's in the 1st year of a 2 year deal for them.

i low key want the dude to get 3000 hits so the HOF voters can be confused as hell about whether they should let an average-D, low ob%, low-WAR, slap hitting guy who has 3000 hits in or not...1634 currently...long shot given his skill set and expected natural decline.

seems like he's been around forever (2010), but he only turned 30 this year.

Didn't see Kimbrel's inning but the line score is encouraging 

it was nice.  sharp "rise" action on his fastball that was hard for hitters to do anything with and his command/control about where it's at when he's doing well.  he regained it when he lost it.

Very good and thanks - high rising fastballs certainly beat middle-middle ones that we've seen far too many of. Read an article where the Cubs were "suggesting" to Kimbrel that he stop throwing a change up that he's been tinkering with (but not actually using in games) - that it was screwing up his deliveries for his bread and butter pitches.  Maybe they're getting somewhere with this. 

Another Cincy Red player has tested positive for cv per Ken Rosenthal. Pirates-Reds game today is probably going to be canceled.

The Cubs don't play the Reds again until 8-28.

Poor Pirates didn't play a series earlier this week with the Cardinals because of COVID - sucks. 

Rizzo has the homer but Schwarber worked a great at bat drawing a walk with two outs which set up what could have been a big inning - at least Happ got the run scoring double.

Quality outing by Rea - had not been stretched out and got into fourth inning, responsible for two runs allowed with one man still on base when he left. 

They were definitely asking too much for the second time through the order.

that was a head scratcher even with a low(ish) pitch count relative to 3 innings.  he didn't look at all ready for a 4th.

Death, taxes and Ryan Braun rakes at Wrigley

Looks like Underwood will be pitching in this game. Saddler needs to get his 💩 in order stat

Hello 2019, Cubs! I was hoping you were in the rear view mirror! 😂

Man our bullpen is trash. Even our "better" guys aren't very good. Sadler, Tepera, Ryan, etc

Also, Orlando Arcia I feel has become a Cub killer. Its a shame because Orlando Arcia is a pretty crappy player except when he plays the Cubs.

Well, I guess if you steal second base with two outs in the bottom of the 8th you're looking pretty smart. Or not


2 games of huge tease with losses.

It helps very little that I went in expecting them to lose both.

hours later mark grace is still trending up/down on twitter because of his ex-wife/dingbat story.

i don't think they fully understand that relationship, but here we are.

Chatwood to IL, Jason Adam selected, Cotton DFA.

The Cotton DFA is a little bit surprising, given we're going to need innings this week. Shortens our SP depth even further, too.

DJL: Especiaslly since the Cubs could have just transferred Norwood or Wieck to the 45-day IL. 

That part didn't even occur to me! Makes it even stranger.

el mago indeed...

if it wasn't for slo-mo replay he would have had a wtf safe call sliding into 1st...almost got it...

also, this entire series has been torture.

Counsell/Brewers have had the Cubs number for a few years now.

The silver lining from this series? Craig freaking Kimbrel

They really have. They've very easily become the team I hate the most next to St Louis 

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  • Cubster 4 hours 15 sec ago (view)

    The Jared Porter story gets worse and does involve the Cubs...

    "The Jared Porter situation is equally a Cubs and a Mets problem. The Mets need a new GM. The Cubs need to reevaluate themselves as an organization.


  • Cubster 6 hours 49 min ago (view)

    and they are including amusement tax, healthcare costs (Doc Adams doesn't come cheap!), social security and political donations to the City and the Governor of Nebraska. 


  • bradsbeard 7 hours 14 min ago (view)

    It all depends what you count as "payroll." If you include the $11M in Lester and Descalso's buyouts plus the $3M sent in the Darvish trade you get to somewhere like $145M. If you include the $15M in estimated share of player benefits, you get to $160M. I think that last year, including player benefits, they were slated to be up around $205M for MLB payroll before the pandemic. 


  • crunch 16 hours 58 min ago (view)

    not sure, but i think it's around 130-135m right now even with bryant/baez/contreras still on board...including the 3m to set darvish free and other random $$ expenses on the roster.

    tack on another 3-4m for happ when that gets other odds/ends that have a chance to make the roster (s.miller, a.morgan, j.holder, etc) and other pre-arbitration guys...

    cubs still need someone to back up contreras (if he sticks around, which i wouldn't be surprised to see him stick around)...not sure if taylor gushue is gonna be that guy and m.amaya is too young.


  • George Altman 17 hours 47 min ago (view)

    Seriously, what's the 2021 payroll number? Currently at approximately $165M and after they trade Bryant, Baez, & Contreras  - $130M. Is that it, $135-140M.


  • crunch 17 hours 51 min ago (view)

    Q to the angels...supposedly 1/8m


  • crunch 1 day 2 hours ago (view)

    pete ricketts (the governor of Nebraska ricketts) is a key part of an anti-gambling Nebraska group called "Gambling With The Good Life" that actively lobbied their open legislature...including a speech by keep gambling illegal in Nebraska.

    he last spoke for the group to the state government in-session 3 months ago.'s also worth mentioning all of this is separate from the Draft Kings/Wrigley Field deal that flew under the radar toward the end of the season that will put a sportsbook directly in wrigley field, itself.


  • Charlie 1 day 3 hours ago (view)

    Of all the things, why does this most make me want to punch


  • Cubster 1 day 9 hours ago (view)

    I thought the Cubs had lost a rising star in Porter, seems the just got lucky with him leaving the organization. 


  • crunch 1 day 16 hours ago (view)

    jared porter...damn dude...mets gm, ex cubs director of scouting...


  • crunch 1 day 20 hours ago (view)

    cubs freeing up that chatwood + lester loot sure did help...wait...sigh.


  • Cubster 1 day 20 hours ago (view)

    Plus Chatwood signing w Bluejays is done.


  • crunch 1 day 21 hours ago (view)

    ...and done.  1 year deal with a mutual option.


  • Cubster 1 day 22 hours ago (view)

    Dolorous in discussions with the Washington Schwarbs.


  • crunch 1 day 22 hours ago (view)

    that's where i'd put my money.  he gave up an alarming amount of HR last season, giving pause.  still, he's shown he's better than a 5 slot guy...


  • Cubster 1 day 22 hours ago (view)

    God knows, the pitching staff needs more Garlick but the offense needs to ward off those strikeout demons.