Sunday Funnies: What ARE they going to do at this year's Winter Meetings?

While not alot of the activity involved our favorite team, I'm dizzy from all the signings and trades that have already happened this winter.
So, just wondering what all the general managers could possibly talk about at the Winter Meetings in Orlando tomorrow...

(Usually, I can give credit for an illustration's idea to someone's comment here, and while that's what happened I couldn't find it. So anyway, whoever did make that comment wondering if the gms would have anything to talk about...thanks!)

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I LOL'd and I thank you for that, sir, because it's snowy as shit where I am and I have been working straight through the past 10 days.

Hi Charlie, it's just starting to come down in Chicago too. Yuck. And thank you.

Hagahah

well-played Tim.

per a completely untrustworthy twitter souce..A's/Cubs have a meeting set-up for tonight

Some talk of Brett Anderson and A's have had prior interest in Schierholtz and Barney...

normally I don't bother with those, but it actually makes some sense, other pieces would certainly be involved, but sounds like a good starting point for talks.

b.anderson for a bench OF (cespedes/crisp/reddick/c.gentry already in the OF) and a possible e.sogard replacement that's not a sure-thing would be interesting.

Why would A's give up Anderson for spare parts?

to be clear, A's at some point in the past may have asked about Schierholtz and Barney, doesn't mean they are asking now

I think Gentry possibly filled any OF depth issues, Barney may have some use to them and Anderson is certainly someone they'd deal to get out of his contract (they are the A's afterall), but no one knows exactly what they're looking for now. But they always have an eye on this season and the following seasons, so I'm sure there's some options out there.

they could probably use starting pitch depth, maybe a swingman like Villanueva or maybe a player that has more option years left than Anderson. Maybe they don't match up at all...

Orioles executive vice president of baseball operations Dan Duquette indicated Sunday that they are comfortable with Ryan Flaherty as the team's second baseman.

comfortable with Ryan Flaherty as the team's second baseman. --- Brian Roberts is available?

yeah, and the O's are trying to bring him back. the O's have a thing for r.flaherty. he actually took over the job on a daily basis for a while last year, but he didn't step up and lost the role. the guy can field 2nd adequately (as well as 3rd) and he's got 20HR power. consistent quality contact is his only knock.

I had a thought on Tanaka vis a vis FA spending. Theo appears willing to spend 'FA' money on players like Rizzo, Castro and 25-yr old T-O-R SP like Tanaka. My guess would be to see similar money spent on Baez, Almora, & Bryant as they enter their arbitration years. Until the Cubs are coming off an 88-90 win season, we won't see Ellsbury/Granderson contracts thrown out let alone Cano deals (which was just assinine).

The Cubs are nearing a tipping point with Samardzija, who remains under club control for two more seasons at a time when the franchise is ramping up for 2016 and beyond. Samardzija’s camp confirmed nothing has really changed since last winter, when talks about a long-term extension gained no momentum. After years of shifting between the bullpen and the rotation and commuting from Triple-A Iowa to Chicago, Samardzija simply wants to let this play out and establish himself as a No. 1 starter before signing a new deal.... The two sides have different definitions of market value. The skyrocketing price of pitching could force a Samardzija trade. http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cubs-focusing-...

I would like Spellcheck to establish himself, as a consistent #3 starter.....a #1? Lol....He's not near that yet.

sorry if 3/44, but Levine in this podcast said Cubs could be in on Choo


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/?podcast_url=http...

TIM: Funny, funny shit! Again - L. Berry would love this with a sick Cubs twist!

She's from Wisco. Probably a Brewer fan.

 

Roy Halladay to retire.

Domonic Brown for Samardzija sounds perfect :)

Brown for Schierholtz/Samardzija would make some sense as a starting point, obviously Phillies would need to add some prospects of which they have few, not sure if they'd deal Jesse Biddle.

Brown's not due for free agency until after 2017 season.

Can the Phillies Match Up with the Cubs on Samardzija? http://www.mlbprospectwatch.com/mlb_prospect_...

Biddle + Brown for Samardzija would be a helluva deal for Cubs imo, also probably a pipedream.

some folks seem to be freaking about Brown fading in the second half, but at age 25, no reason to freak out too much. #4 prospect in baseball heading into 2011, the path isn't always linear.  BB rate over 10% in the minors, just under 9% in minors and with Bryant and Soler, he'd probably eventually move to left field.

Still a lot of potential in there, major league ready and 4 years of service time and Cubs could use some left-handed power.

Joel Sherman‏@Joelsherman1 Outside execs say Brown's defense enough of a problem, hole in swing that might not get kind SP #Phillies want

Outside execs say (that totally aren't associated with another NL East team)

way to kill my buzz...although as I said, think you'd have to throw in Biddle to make the deal and not sure he's available.

that being said, a pretty consistent 18.4% career K rate isn't indicitive of a huge hole in his swing and seems like he's played long enough that they'd figure it out by now.

d.brown's swing can get sloppy and long...he loves going for outside stuff, especially high. he couldn't make up his mind whether he was a pull hitter or a reacher in a kinda erratic fashion last season. when he hit a lot of homers up and in the outer part of the zone last may, he spent a few months going back/forth biting at stuff outside the zone trying to replicate may. his K rate doesn't mean much...quality of contact is in play.

d.brown hit 12 HR in may...and 12 HR in june/july/aug/sept. his D is rather average. if they give up even just ninja for brown it's a blown move, imo...i see it more of a brown + others for ninja before a ninja + others for brown.

torre/cox/larussa to HOF via veteran's/expansion committee. btw, torre was a hell of a player before his managing career.

Bruce Levine‏@MLBBruceLevine Source :The Rays and Dodgers may be matching up on David Price. Bruce & Ned are buds...

kershaw, greinke, ryu, beckett, haren...billingsley yeah, okay. i guess if they happen to shift beckett it could work...seems overkill as hell to add another lefty to the mix, even if it's a good one, though.

this is one hell of a boring 1st day of winter meetings...

tweet there from Witty says Cubs exploring reliever trade market, Storen and Clippard mentioned

Joel Sherman‏@Joelsherman1 Outside execs say Wittenmyer's writing has its problems, hole in head that might not get kind rumors #Cubsfans want.

It would be awesome if there were some rumors of the Cubs looking for something other than RPs.

Another pitcher on the market. FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that the Indians are listening to trade offers for Justin Masterson. The Indians are aiming to contend in 2014 and Masterson is their ace, but Rosenthal says the thinking in dealing him would be to explore "longer-term options." Masterson is entering his walk year, and the Tribe must not feel good about their chances of locking him up to a long-term extension. Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported earlier this offseason that Masterson was looking for an extension in the five-year, $75 million range.

And this morning... Buster Olney‏@Buster_ESPN The Phillies have indicated to other teams they are ready and willing to talk about Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels in trades.

Baseball America Rule 5 Preview has lots of Cubs in it. http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/rule-5-...

That's a few weeks old btw, think it was posted on here when it first came out...not necessarily reflective of what may happen this week. It also has Ha as a left-handed hitter.

Pretty epic animation, Tim. That was almost feature-film length (slight exaggeration).

Skaggs about to be off the table...3-way trade nearing completion.

DBacks: Trumbo & 2 prospects

White Sox: A. Eaton

Angels: Skaggs & H. Santiago

maybe DBacks getting 2 really good prospects to ship for Samardzija, but I doubt it.

Sox got pants'd

unless the sox are giving up the prospects i'd rather than a.eaton over h.santiago... bats should be big this offseason. next year's FA market is pitching-heavy (pending extensions) and very bats-bare (and should get worse with extensions in the coming season). the OF market is really bare. hanley ramirez, chase headley, and pablo sandavol are the batting "stars" of the 2015 FA market who aren't going to be 35+ years old...and it's expected that h.ramirez will be off the table pretty soon...and the 35+ year old crowd doesn't contain anyone to be too excited about. tons of pitching, though.

see what the final deal is, but Santiago's walk rates are pretty worrisome, Eaton looks like a legit lead-off type.

h.kendrick to Sox supposedly in play in this trade...that changes the "who's giving up the prospects" part up a bit.

done deal, kendrick NOT involved. prospects probably not named until after the rule 5. wsox getting another player besides eaton.

r.renteria up next after the commercial break on MLB Network live if anyone's close to a TV.

blah blah blah...tremendous challenge...blah blah blah... renteria has sent a "text" out notifying the kids that they should be willing to sacrifice things outside the game to make their game better...focus, desire, etc...come together and become a family... has spoken to s.castro...great kid...must continue to have conversations...understands he has to do well... almora/soler/bryant excites him...organization as a whole excites... likes the foundation of the rotation...talked about how the bullpen needs building... d.barney is "a solid baseball player" who's "capable of turning it around"..."he needs to know we believe in him." ---- on whole it seems like renteria's main focus is baby sitting kids making sure they know they're there to play the game and expected to be ready and able to perform at the best of their ability.

deal was as I mentioned

DBacks get Trumbo, and 2 PTBNL's...one each from Angels and White Sox to be finalized after Rule 5, one may be A.J Schugel from Angels

White Sox get Eaton

Angels get Skaggs and Santiago

rockies get b.anderson for d.pomeranz and c.jensen

poor Anderson going to Mile High. Damn I wanted him in Cub Blue . . .

Brett Anderson and cash to Rockies for Drew Pomeranz and Chris Jensen.

"FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reports that the Cubs, Pirates, Royals and Braves have showed interest in Jason Hammel." good stuff, poor results (so far)...he's one of those guys that should be doing better than he is given the velocity + variety of pitches that comes out of his arm. he's already 31 (as of a few months ago), though, and people have been waiting for that turn-around for a while.

"two unidentified NL teams" in on Kemp trade talks. wp.me/p2reWi-3NT Prediction: Mets are one, obviously. I just can't imagine who the other one is if not the Cubs. The only other team that makes sense from need and financials is San Francisco, but I simply do not think that can happen.

i can't imagine the cubs would be in on it...unless for some reason the LAD want ninja...which makes as little sense as all the other SP they've been rumored to be looking at because they have a full house of pitching already (kershaw, greinke, ryu, beckett, haren). vogelbomb will probably be a trade chip for the cubs eventually and would be attractive to almost any team out there who doesn't have a long-term 1st/DH solution. he will probably come in handy one day in a trade, if not this offseason. the cubs can also play fast/loose with some of their 3rd base prospects since they're flush with them, though bryant is almost assuredly going no where out of that group. kemp's interesting...can play all 3 OF positions so he's got flexibility. he's had an injured shoulder nagging him for years, but it's his non-throwing arm. he's got a good enough arm to play RF should a situation dictate him playing there rather than CF (aka, almora). that said...i dunno if the cubs have what it takes to get it done...or what the dodgers would even want. it's hard to guage what kemp's worth, especially without knowing how much (if any) money the LAD is willing to chip in to lower his contract value and get something done.

"CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Cubs' brass will have a meeting with Jeff Samardzija's agents on Wednesday. Heyman says an offer "isn't necessarily expected," and an extension is "unlikely anyway.""

Sahadev Sharma‏@sahadevsharma One source tells me Samardzija will get moved soon. Another says nothing doing. Cubs official, "Yeah, both those sound about right."

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  • Hagsag 3 hours 54 min ago (view)

    I think we all are ready for some action.

     

  • crunch 4 hours 28 min ago (view)

    winter meetings start tomorrow...guys got into town friday/today.

    the cubs are supposedly looking to tap the trade market for their major moves.  this is the place where it gets done or seeds get planted.

    also, the modern day HOF class will be announced.  marvin miller will most likely get in.  lou whitaker and ted simmons should have some heat, too.

     

  • crunch 18 hours 10 min ago (view)

    semi-interesting winter league note...

    trey mcnutt (yes, that guy) is having a hell of a winter league in mexico (one of the less talented winter leagues) so far as a closer.  15.2ip 8h 4bb 24k, 0.57 era.

    giants signed him to a minor league deal a couple weeks ago.  he never went anywhere.  he's been consistently playing ball in the minors and indie league ball since he was last a noteworthy player.  last season he played in the OAK minor league system.  30 years old now...

     

  • jdrnym 1 day 1 hour ago (view)

    Brad Brach signs with the Mets for $850K but the Cubs are paying $500K, per Ken Rosenthal. Wasn't his 2020 club only supposed to be on the hook for league minimum?

     

  • crunch 1 day 1 hour ago (view)

    when he got to the mets he suddenly learned how to throw with control (small sample size etc).  last year was not a fun bullpen year...

     

  • crunch 1 day 4 hours ago (view)

    Yeah, I've made myself familiar with a lot of the changes, but AZP's posts have both added more information and cleared up stuff I didn't fully grasp.  I appreciate the hell out of it.  Thanks Phil, thanks TCR.

     

  • bradsbeard 1 day 5 hours ago (view)

    Looks like Savant has his breaking pitch classified as a curve while Fangraphs calls it a slider. Suppose by ST he could have made everything over in the pitching lab, so who knows!

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 5 hours ago (view)

    Again, none of these rules (including the one that requires a pitcher to face a minimum of three batters or else record the final out of the inning) have been officially approved.  

    I think one possible caveat that might be added to the three-batter minimum rule would be that the pitcher can be replaced prior to facing three batters or recording the final out of the inning if the other team puts up a pinch-hitter. 

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 6 hours ago (view)

    Ptchers would also be treated differently under the new rules as far as the Injured list and Optional Assignment to the minors is concerned, with pitchers having to spend at least 15 days (up from 10 days) on the Injured List before being eligible to be reinstated and at least 15 days (up from 10 days) on Optional Assignment before being eligible to be recalled (inless the pitcher is being recalled to replace a pitcher on the 26-man roster who has been placed on an MLB inactive list).  

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 6 hours ago (view)

    SONICWIND: As the rule is proposed, prior to the start of each MLB regular season a club must designate all players on its Opening Day 26-man roster as either a "pitcher" or a "position player." A maximum of 13 can be designated as pitchers (14 pitchers max when rosters expand from 26 to 28 beginning on 9/1). 

    For players who come up during the season, the club must designate the player as either a pitcher or a position player when the player is placed on the MLB active list roster. 

     

  • Arizona Phil 1 day 6 hours ago (view)

    BRADSBEARD: Fangraphs shows the CT as his primary pitch in 2018 with the SL & FB (and an occasional CH) as his secondary pitches, with no CV at all. I guess I'll find out for sure in Spring Training. 

     

  • Sonicwind75 1 day 7 hours ago (view)

    AZ Phil, thank you as always for the detailed information.  How is the "cannot be a pitcher" part of the rule to be enforced?  With a few two way players and the increasing amount of mop up innings being handled by position players it seems like there could be a gray area there.  What is preventing a team from stashing an athletic relief pitcher as a "5th outfielder" that could be a pinch runner and play a passable OF when needed but could also provide them with extra relief pitcher.  Anytime I hear of a new rule I always think of how Bill Billichek would circumvent it t

     

  • bradsbeard 1 day 7 hours ago (view)

    AZ Phil, looking around Baseball Savant, it looks like Winkler now primarily throws a low 90s cutter, a 4-seamer that he throws a little harder (but is less effective), a curve and a sinker. The slider and change haven't been a major part of his repertoir the last two years. The cutter has been really effective the last two years but it looks like he lost command/effectiveness of his 4-seemer and curve last year For whatever reason  

     

  • bradsbeard 1 day 10 hours ago (view)

    They just signed this guy:

    https://twitter.com/mlbastian/status/1202973097223237632

     

  • Hagsag 1 day 12 hours ago (view)

    There seems to be a lot of player movement so far. Too bad the Cubs aren't involved.

     

  • Arizona Phil 2 days 4 hours ago (view)

    Beginning in 2019, a club must wait a minimum of seven days before it can place a player who was claimed off Outtright Assignment Waivers during the off-season back onto waivers, so because he was claimed off waivers on Wednesday 11/27, yesterday (Wednesday 12/4) was the first day the Cubs could place LHRP C. D. Pelham back onto Outright Assignment Waivers, and so tomorrow (Friday 12/6) is the first day the Cubs can send Pelham outright to the minors (if he was placed back onto waivers yesterday).