How about this guy?

Faced with a glut of outfielders, the Giants designated Marquis Grissom for assignment yesterday. Normally, I'm all against signing aging players who are showing a considerable decline in their skills. BUT, over the last 3 years there is one thing that Grissom has done well and it's something we are in the need of. The boy's been mashing lefties... against lefties from 2002-2004: .325/.369/.616 against righties from 2002-2004: .272/.303/.414 It could very well be just a statistical anomaly as his career splits look like this... vs. lefites .285/.336/.467 vs. righties .266/.310/.393 Still, quite a measured difference in slugging. He has been rather horrible this season against all pitchers, but he's been injured as well, so his at-bats have been limited. The only reason to do this would be to get a respectable right handed bat to be used off the bench as we're very much lacking that. Right now the options for Baker are, Murton (on the days he doesn't start), Macias, Blanco or Barrett depending on who's starting that day, and soon to be Neifi/Garciaparra, once again, depending on who's starting. Since I can't tell you how much I dislike carrying 12 pitchers, all the more reason to find a guy who can fill a more needed and useful role. Of course, the more I think about it, the more I realize what a dangerous situation it would be. Dusty could very well fall in love with Marquis's veteran moxie and end up using him over Murton and Hairston, including a number of unnecessary starts. His defense is just about as bad, if not worse then Hairston's, so there's another knock against him. And what we really need is bullpen help (unless Wood/Williamson are the say the least I have my doubts) and preferably a more dependable starter to insert behind Prior/Zambrano. Anyway, just something I saw today and thought Hendry could look into.


I'd have no objections to picking up Grissom for the stretch run, provided he'd only be used to beef up the bench. He's got some pop, and he's been around the block. Could give us a much stronger bench, though I'd be happier if we could find a veteran hitter who can play 1B/3B competently instead.

Pick him up and Murton would get sent down. You really want that?

That would be a great pickup.

With Nomar back, you have Neifi move into the utility IF position, able to play 2b, SS, or 3B. Your OF of Burnitz, Hairston, Lawton, Grisson, and Murton is solid. Not great, but not terrible.

I thought I made it clear that it would be to replace an unneeded 12th pitcher, at least hypothetically. Hypothetically he would only be used as a bat off the bench, In reality, either Murton gets sent down or as mentioned, Grissom starts getting way too many at-bats versus righties and a few too many starts.

There's also a very real possibility that he's just completely lost it by this point in his career (I believe he's 38). As I said, just an idea and something Hendry could consider asking around about if he's really washed up or not.

Yes, and I'll tell you why. Murton isn't going to play enough -- he's buried beneath Lawton and Hollandsworth both now. So send him down to Iowa and let him rip the hell out of minor league pitching for another month, then bring him back up in September. He loses what, the six or seven big league starts he might have made in all of August?

I'd like to see Murton get some more at-bats, but obviously it isn't going to happen. So why not make a move for somebody Dusty might actually use?

of course, he could also replace Jose Macias, but so good a dead sea lamprey

I'm a lifelong Cubs fan, a transplanted Chicagoan living in San Francisco for the past five years.... believe me, you don't want Grissom, he's washed up, over the hill, done for, kaput, finis, 86'd, shot his last bolt, etc.


I agree with the notion of Murton in Des Moines. He needs to play, and Dusty ain't gonna give let him play for the Cubs. I am not so sure that giving playing time to Grissom is the right idea.

The main reason we would want him is for speed and range in the outfield. He has a bad hammy, and therefore we don't want him.

If Hendry's entertaining any notion of acquiring Marquis Grissom, he'd damned well better wait until September 1 to do it. Otherwise, he'd just be clogging up a space on the 25-man roster with a guy who should be restricted to one role: Right-handed pinch-hitting specialist. Since that commodity is much less valuable than a left-handed pinch-hitting specialist, and pinch-hitting specialists in general are iffy propositions in terms of roster space, there's no way that Grissom should be on the Cubs' 25-man roster at this point. In September, he becomes a luxury the team can afford.

Besides, as Rob said, the temptation might prove too great for Baker to refrain from using Grissom as an actual outfielder. Given that Baker used to manage him, and has a propensity for overvaluing veterans of his from his San Francisco days (Ramon Martinez, anyone? Calvin Murray?), I could see him using Grissom as the Cubs' CF. The meltdown on TCR would get pretty ugly.

Dusty never managed Grissom -- he's only been on the Giants since 2003. That doesn't mean he's not a perfect candidate to be one of Dusty's Guys, of course...

I'm another lifelong Cubs guy living in SF, and 4thandinches is right. I feel a bit bad saying it, because I love Marquis (gotta love a guy named after a car), but he's done. Dusty would love him.

You're right, Christian. Nice catch.

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