Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
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| SP | *Ted Lilly | SP | *Paul Maholm |
| 10-6, 4.49, 124 K, 47 BB, 134.1 IP | |
7-6, 3.79, 96 K, 36 BB, 140 IP | |
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| LF | Alfonso Soriano | 2B | Luis Rivas |
| SS | Ryan Theriot | SS | Jack Wilson |
| 1B | Derrek Lee | CF | *Nate McLouth |
| 3B | Aramis Ramirez | C | #Ryan Doumit |
| CF | Reed Johnson | 3B | Andy LaRoche |
| RF | Mark DeRosa | RF | Stephen Pearce |
| C | Geovany Soto | LF | *Brandon Moss |
| 2B | Ronny Cedeno | 1B | Chris Gomez |
| P | *Ted Lilly | P | *Paul Maholm |
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Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 12:38pm Permalink
this lineup sucks -- I hope I'm not too late
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 2:28pm Permalink
Go Cubs Go!!! I hope I'm not too early (it is the Pirates, you know).
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 2:40pm Permalink
Following the game thru gameday. Nice job by Cedeno to get two runners home from the 8 spot in the lineup - with Lilly hitting behind him, definitely take the gidp to get that 2nd runner in. Not sure why the bucs didn't walk him in the 2nd inning with 2 outs ...
22 gidp's for Lee on the season now ... LouPa will need to get serious in starting either Fonzie or The Riot when they got on in front of him. Previous career high for gidp for Lee was 18 in 2001. Will he end up having more HR's than GDPs this year?
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 3:32pm Permalink
1) Biggest play was Cedeno's RBI single in the second inning. Russell gambled with first base open and two outs that Maholm could get Cedeno, and the gamble failed.
2) The Pirates had the leadoff man on in the sixth, seventh and eighth and didn't score in any of those innings.
3) Marmol's fastball the past two days was timed at 96 mph, as hard as he's thrown in weeks.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 3:52pm Permalink
Why no love for Johnson? Another find offensive outing for the sometime CF - man comes to play, could become even more important depending on Edmonds knee instability. And Marmol's definitely dialed in again - yay.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 6:16pm Permalink
Johnson's trash in 75% of the games. The ones where the pitchers don't throw from the wrong side.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 6:42pm Permalink
Well, don't know if you've noticed or anything, but that's kinda why you platoon him with a guy who has an 841 OPS against "the pitchers who don't throw from the wrong side".
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 6:59pm Permalink
Nailed it, Wes.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 8:37pm Permalink
I think "Rekes" point of contention is that Reed could be the savior if Edmonds is hurt. Because I think we saw what happens when he gets regular PT vs righties.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 9:21pm Permalink
That's fine.
264/314/393 isn't exactly great, which is Reed v. RHP in '08, but I'd take it if my choices were him, any of the likely candidates to be put on the waiver wire, or Pie. His numbers against right aren't even as good as Reed's are. 242/304/371.
I know we're splitting hairs about defining "trash", but I think Reed's righty numbers are fine for a 8th place hitter if he's going to play good defense.
All that is assuming you don't put Fukudome in center, play DeRosa in right, and put Fontenot at 2B. But, that's another discussion.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 5:45pm Permalink
Griffey, Jr out with leg cramps. Allegedly he played a fantastic CF today.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 8:34pm Permalink
I saw one diving catch on the highlights. I just assume it's a ball that anyone under 30 makes routinely out there.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 11:55pm Permalink
Prince Fielder is under 30.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 12:49am Permalink
Under 30 and under 300
Brewers win
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 8:37pm Permalink
Cardinals losing heading into the 9th, 2-1.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 9:23pm Permalink
Another arm for Sept? Angel Guzman has 2 inning start tonight @ Daytona
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 11:05pm Permalink
according to chicago sports.com mark cuban
is the first round leader with a bid
of 1.3 billion and with the support
of red sox ownership and nba commisioner
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 12:01am Permalink
Prince Fielder is under 30.
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just not his waistline
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 12:03am Permalink
Guzman looked sharp, allowing just one earned run in two innings pitched, contributing to an 13-5 Cubs win... Guzman pitched much better in the second inning, striking out catcher Christian Lopez and then getting two ground outs.
http://www.daytonacubs.com/cgi-bin/dist/news.cgi?id=1
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 12:11am Permalink
Nolasco with 13K's in 8 innings last night.
meh...
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 12:28am Permalink
so many day games.
only 1 night/evening game this week. bleh.
Re: meh...
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 7:37am Permalink
I love day games... gives me something to look forward to at work.
Re: meh...
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 9:29am Permalink
work \'wurk\ n.: a social construct in which Cub fans isolate themselves in an 8x8 room with a computer, performing menial tasks in exchange for local currency while waiting for Parachat gatherings.
Re: meh...
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 9:32am Permalink
Day games are vastly preferred. I can watch those live.
Re: meh...
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 9:51am Permalink
I prefer west coast night games. :-)
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 11:30am Permalink
Here's a note from America's favorite journalist, Paul Sullivan, this morning. This is being filed under "crunch is muttering to himself while he responds in anger":
Cubs record when the wind blows in:
2007 & 2008 (Under Lou): 48-23 .676
2003-2006 (Under Dusty): 83-91 .477
IT'S ALL DUSTY'S FAULT! LOU, GENERALLY SPEAKING, KNOWS MORE ABOUT METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS THAN DUSTY!
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 11:53am Permalink
I am no fan of Dusty, and would like to forget most of his time here, but given the overall better play, isn't it a given that the Cubs will have a better record under Lou than Dusty in any category?
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 12:39pm Permalink
Unfortunately, Sully can't put 2 and 2 together there.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 1:16pm Permalink
So now we are just going to absolve Michael Barrett of all blame? I'm not sure if I can live with that.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 12:52pm Permalink
well look at the facts.
it obviously is his fault.
i dont know why they bother spending all this loot on players when they can just go out and get injured.
i've always said what the cubs need is a 50-70 year old fat man to point and yell at people/places/things.
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Sun, 08/03/2008 - 11:50am Permalink
The seven keys to translating for Fukudome:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3511598
Re: Game 111 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (2 of 3)
on Mon, 08/04/2008 - 7:27pm Permalink
This whole not scoring any runs against Brian Moehler thing is really getting old.