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    Author: Dusty Baylor
    37 min 33 sec ago
  • Good points all VaPhil! I'd point out that Alcantara had a lot more success in AAA than Patterson did.
    Still can't believe how they rushed him through..seemed like Patterson could've used a full season at AAA.
    Oh well...

    Author: Dusty Baylor
    37 min 57 sec ago
  • I agree with you about the unprecedented depth of the talent pool today, but let's not forget that Wilken also drafted Donaldson, Cashner, Samardzija, Baez and Vogelbach, while Fleita's side of the house signed Castro and Alcantara.

    It might be interesting to contrast Alcantara and Corey Patterson, smallish prospects with similar toolsets that included speed, power and defensive ability. I might give Alcantara a slight edge in toolsiness for his infield skills and for hitting from both sides of the plate. Patterson was a big deal when he was rising in the minors, where Alcantara was mostly under the radar until this year, and he is still excluded from groupings like the Core Four and the Fab Five. The bar has obviously been set much higher in the Epstein era.

    [Rob, I haven't been able to log in fully to TCR for several days, at least using Chrome. This morning I thwarted your attempt to silence me by switching to IE!]

    Author: VirginiaPhil
    1 hour 14 min ago
  • WISCGRAD: Yes. That's true. Concepcion was WAY before his time, but he certainly would know about Vizquel.

    Author: Arizona Phil
    1 hour 25 min ago
  • Given his age and who he was following growing up, he might take #13 but not be a Concepcion guy but rather a Vizquel guy--another Venezuelan and perhaps even a better fielder than the others.

    Author: WISCGRAD
    1 hour 35 min ago
  • E-MAN: It looks like C. J. Edwards has put on some weight, but he's still tall & lanky and probably always will be. I really don't think being Satchel Paige or Oil Can Boyd Redux would necessarily be the worst thing. Some of the best Marathon runners in the world have that body type, and they don't have stamina issues. I'm more concerned about the shoulder inflamation, but it looks like that problem has been resolved (at least for now). 

    Gleyber Torres is a magician with the glove. He has a plus-arm, soft hands, and good footwork turning the DP. Sometimes he gets a bit cocky and tries to show-off or do too much and that results in an error, but it's not for lack of tools.

    I have never seen Torres play any position other than SS (even in infield drills), and I doubt that the Cubs will move him to another position. He's the "real deal" at SS.  I would be surprised if he doesn't start the 2015 season at Kane County.

    BTW, Torres is another in the long-line of shortstops from Venezuela going back to Chico Carrasquel and Luis Aparicio in the 1950's, then Dave Concepcion and Ozzie Guillen in later years. it's always interesting to see if the Venezuelan kid SS is an Aparicio/Guillen guy (wears #11) or a Concepcion guy (wears #13). Torres wears #13. 

    Author: Arizona Phil
    1 hour 57 min ago
  • HAGSAG: Gleyber Torres is a better pure hitter and has better hands & footwork at SS. Carlos Penalver is faster and a bit more polished. Torres definitely has the higher upside. In fact, I would rate Torres among the Cubs Top 10 Prospects right now (probably #10, right behind Schwarber and Vogelbach).

    It's hard to believe that Torres just turned 17 in December. 

    Author: Arizona Phil
    2 hours 40 min ago
  • Phil, will you compare Torres to Penalver?

    Author: Hagsag
    3 hours 33 min ago
  • I was just reading the same thing - and I actually agree with the cubs. If they are gonna start pushing forward next year those two guys are my choice to hang around because 1.) they are outfielders a which we'll need, and 2.) they've been through the ups and downs of success and failure personally - especially Caghlan which is a nice perspective to have with a lot of kids coming up.

    Obviously if it's a decent prospect you trade them, but they are good guys to have around and young enough too.

    Author: Carlito
    5 hours 42 min ago
  • I believe the Madlock trade was related to salary demands [And he was a black guy] and some discrimination on the part of PK Wrigley who died in April 1977 only 2 months after the Madlock [who was black] trade. PK wasn't used to feisty [and black] players like Madlock [who was also African American] (think Billy Williams and Ernie Banks). To add to the context, this was still fresh on the heels of the Curt Flood reserve clause challenges [also black] (1971) and the Seitz decision (Dec 1975). Finally, there was the new 1976 MLBPA agreement permitting free agency after 6 years of service.[but really, being feisty and black outweighed batting titles]

    Author: The E-Man
    5 hours 47 min ago
  • Thanks PHIL!

    It sounds as if CJ is making progress from your report.

    Is he still looking like a "string bean"? Do you think he can project out to a MLB starter someday in the near future?

    Re Torres - are the coaches having him practice various positions up the middle? Or, are they focusing on his SS play? How's the kid's arm, anyway?

    Author: The E-Man
    5 hours 54 min ago
  • "CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reports that the Cubs have "rebuffed inquiries" from the Yankees and others for Justin Ruggiano.

    Heyman says the Cubs plan to hang on to both Ruggiano and Chris Coghlan, as they value their bats next year more than the second-tier prospect that they'd receive in return."

    rotoworld

    Author: crunch
    15 hours 7 min ago
  • I'm picturing him as literally on fire, which is NBA-Jam-esque.

    Author: The Joe
    17 hours 31 min ago
  • I believe the Madlock trade was related to salary demands and some discrimination on the part of PK Wrigley who died in April 1977 only 2 months after the Madlock trade. PK wasn't used to feisty players like Madlock (think Billy Williams and Ernie Banks). To add to the context, this was still fresh on the heels of the Curt Flood reserve clause challenges (1971) and the Seitz decision (Dec 1975). Finally, there was the new 1976 MLBPA agreement permitting free agency after 6 years of service.

    Personally, I was always dumbfounded by that trade, as Murcer was the embodiment of the failed hype as the next Mickey Mantle with warning track power (and the aggressiveness of a sea slug. Also known for his locker room rocking chair.

    and the Cubs, who had found their replacement for Ron Santo would once again continue that search until ARam (excluding a brief visit by Ron Cey).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seitz_decision

    and although I hate citing BCB, here is their writeup on Madlock:

    Old Phil Wrigley stated his case succinctly in 1977, when the Cubs decided to trade Madlock to San Fransisco, saying, "When these players are impossible to deal with, I'd rather let somebody else have them."

    http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2006/12/24/52252/776

    Author: Cubster
    17 hours 35 min ago
  • Maddux scouting reports through the years-

    first one typical Cubs scout at the time

    http://deadspin.com/the-scouting-reports-said-greg...

    Author: jacos
    17 hours 45 min ago
  • Top three or four picks, I'll always want a position player over a pitcher.

    Author: Old and Blue
    18 hours 47 min ago
  • He's on fire.

    Author: Carlito
    18 hours 50 min ago
  • I think Wrigley was just pissed that Madlock put the nail in the coffin of the Carmen Fanzone era.

    Author: Old and Blue
    18 hours 51 min ago
  • Hooton came in with a lot of hype, sort of Mark Priorish at the time if I remember right. I never did figure out why they traded him. Thanks for all of those recaps!

    Author: Old and Blue
    18 hours 55 min ago
  • You just bet a nut that Hanley Ramirez is going to be healthy the rest of the season.

    Author: John Beasley
    18 hours 55 min ago
  • mark appel (HOU) called up to AA a couple days ago.

    9.74era/1.92whip in 12 outings (44.1 ip) in high-A.

    neat.

    Author: crunch
    19 hours 36 min ago
  • seeing boni lead off again (which it seems "speed leads" is in play at this point) had me wondering about this season's production out of the leadoff slot.

    .248/.294/.350

    also...the 5/6/7/8/9/1 slots are all playing out sub-.300 ob% on the season.

    ouch.

    Author: crunch
    20 hours 14 min ago
  • Also I'm willing to bet 10 bucks and my left nut, Barney does not make play off roster.

    /Hi Ryan!!

    Author: jacos
    20 hours 45 min ago
  • Only Hair Line Creations benefited with the arrival of Steve Ontiveros.

    Author: jacos
    21 hours 37 min ago
  • To compound that, they made a bunch of bad trades in the '70s. In some cases, they gave up young talent for older players.

    November 2, 1972: Billy North to A's for Bob Locker. North, 24 at the time of the trade, became the starting center fielder for the A's, who won the world series in each of the first two years after the trade. Locker, 34 at the time of the trade, had a good year for the Cubs in 1973, going 10-6, with 18 saves and a 2.54 ERA over 106 innings pitched, and was then involved in two subsequent Cubs-A's trades (i) November 3, 1973, traded by the Cubs to the A's for Horacio Pina and (ii) October 23, 1974, traded by the A's with Darold Knowles and Manny Trillo to the Cubs for Billy Williams. Locker did not pitch in 1974 and posted a 4.96 ERA for the Cubs in 1975 before getting released in June of that year.

    May 2, 1975: Burt Hooton to Dodgers for Geoff Zahn and Eddie Solomon. Solomon pitched 6-2/3 innings for the Cubs in 1975, and was traded prior to the start of the 1976 season to the Cardinals for Ken Crosby, who posted an ERA of 8.41 over parts of two seasons for the Cubs. Zahn pitched 62-2/3 innings over the rest of 1975 for the Cubs, with a record of 2-7 and an ERA of 4.45, then got hurt the following year. The Cubs released Zahn in January 1977. Hooton, 25 at the time of the trade, went 18-7 for the Dodgers over the rest of 1975, and was a mainstay of the Dodger rotation for the next 6 years, winning 70 games over such period, finishing second in NL Cy Young voting in 1978 and pitching in three world series.

    May 17, 1976: Andre Thornton to the Montreal Expos for Steve Renko and Larry Biittner. At the time of the trade, Thornton was 26, Renko 32 and Biitner 30. Biitner's career OPS+ was 88. Renko went 8-11 for the Cubs in 1976 with an ERA of 3.86. Renko was traded in August 1977 to the White Sox for Larry Anderson and cash. Thornton had a career OPS+ of 122 and hit over 200 home runs in the ten plus years he spent in the majors after leaving the Cubs.

    February 11, 1977: Bill Madlock and Rob Sperring to Giants for Bobby Murcer, Andy Muhlstock (minors) and Steve Ontiveros. At the time of the trade, Madlock was 25 and had just won his second consecutive batting title (in three full major league seasons), with OPS+ numbers of 123, 141 and 150 during his 3 years with the Cubs. Madlock played 11 more years, finishing with a career batting average of .305 and a career OPS+ of 123 and winning two additional batting titles in 1981 and 1983. Murcer was 30 at the time of the trade and his latest three seasons (at the time of the trade) in terms of OPS+ were 107, 127 and 123. Murcer played 2 full years for the Cubs, going 27HR 89RBI .265 in 1977 and 9HR 64RBI .281 in 1978. Murcer was traded to the Yankees in June 1979 for Paul Semall, a minor leaguer. Ontiveros, 25 at the time of the trade, became the Cubs' starting 3rd baseman and had a decent year in 1977, hitting 10HR 68RBI .299 with an OPS+ of 109. He fell off significantly after that and cut by the Cubs in 1980. His career OPS+ was 95 and he was below that number in each of his last three years with the Cubs. He may have been injured for the better part of 1978 and 1980.

    Author: dcf
    22 hours 2 min ago
  • No hits. Struck out looking to end the game with the tying run on third.

    He's a big man, tall for a catcher, maybe 6'4" or so. Seemed to move reasonably well behind the plate. I did not have a chance to see much from him defensively.

    Author: dcf
    22 hours 35 min ago
  • Norm Cash was traded in a 3 way deal to Detroit from the Whitesox. The WSux re-acquired Minnie Minoso.

    12-06-1959 Traded by Chicago White Sox with John Romano and Bubba Phillips to Cleveland Indians in exchange for Minnie Minoso, Dick Brown, Don Ferrarese and Jake Striker (December 6, 1959).

    Cash in 1959, hmmm. Technically that's old money.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_money

    Author: Cubster
    22 hours 51 min ago
  • Moolahnado's best days are behind him. I'd still like to see if there is some way they could get the Tigers involved and get Norm Cash.

    Author: The E-Man
    23 hours 7 min ago
  • How did Brockmeyer look? He had a couple hits the day I was out there.

    Author: The E-Man
    23 hours 9 min ago
  • "If Dunston is a corner outfielder, he will need to develop some power"

    It will be with another organization

    Author: jacos
    23 hours 21 min ago
  • Dinero Navarro, Norm Cash, or Candy Moolahnado? Sweet ... I'll take the one who's still a baseball player, thank you.

    Author: John Beasley
    23 hours 21 min ago
  • I went to see Kane County yesterday. For those of you in the Chicago area, I recommend the experience. The ballpark is a nice modern facility and it is a nice family atmosphere.

    Skulina started and was relieved by Concepcion. Each gave up a solo homer and the Cougars lost 2-1 to West Michigan, a Tigers affiliate. Skulina pitched decently, with 7K and 1 BB in 7 IP; his fastball seemed to top out at 91-92.

    Dunston hit 3 balls pretty hard and had two nice singles. The rest of the team only had 2 hits, a double by Candelario (which frankly should have been a single if the outfielder could throw) and a double by Penalver. The starting lineup: Dunston lf, Pelalver ss, Candelario 3b, Rogers 1b, Brockmeyer c, Brown dh, Young 2b, Baez rf, Martin cf.

    If Dunston is a corner outfielder, he will need to develop some power.

    Author: dcf
    23 hours 23 min ago
  • The Fabulous Moolah?
    /wwf

    Author: jacos
    1 day 2 min ago
  • the list of players Cubs will have to choose from:

    Dinero, Cash or Moolah

     

    Author: Rob G.
    1 day 5 min ago
  • Sweet.

    Author: Rob Richardson
    1 day 8 min ago
  • Barney to the Dodgers according to Levine
    Ptbnl for cubs

    Author: jacos
    1 day 13 min ago
  • Boston Globe Nick Cafardo (praying he's not gone insane):

    The Cubs would love to keep trading off and it wouldn’t be surprising to see the struggling Edwin Jackson depart.

    TCR collective: "Oh, Yes it Would."

    Author: Cubster
    1 day 23 min ago
  • Shawon Dunston, OF, Cubs (Low-A Kane County)
    An 11th-round pick in the 2011 draft, Dunston was clearly selected to be a slow burn. His first couple of seasons brought moderate success in short-season ball, but the jump to full-season wasn't so kind. He'd been playing sporadically and didn't look comfortable at the plate, finding it hard to get in a groove. After the All Star break, however, especially in the wake of Jacob Hannemann's promotion to Daytona, Dunston has found himself getting everyday reps and the results have followed. In July, he's hitting .410/.426/.525, and it hasn't just been BABIP luck: In the last two games, Dunston has stung the ball five or six times. As the son of a major leaguer, it's no surprise that Dunston is a good athlete, running times around 4.2 seconds to first. He doesn't feature his father's 80 arm; it's average or a tick below. Overall, Dunston does not have an impact profile, but he has put himself firmly on the prospect radar. Even though there isn't much power potential, as the hit tool manifests, there's the possibility he becomes a solid extra outfielder. —Jordan Gorosh

    Author: Cubster
    1 day 1 hour ago
  • Duane Underwood, RHP, Cubs (Low-A Kane County)
    Underwood works with a simple step-back delivery and a 3/4 arm slot. The arm whip is fast and crisp, though he does create an inverted W with his upper body. Underwood worked in the 92-95 mph range with his fastball. It had two-seam action lower in the velocity band, but he had trouble locating it all night. The curveball had some sharp bite beneath the strike zone but he was unable to locate it effectively for strikes. Underwood showed a few changeups, including a few backdoor changes that flashed plus fade, but overall it looked like a show-me pitch that will require work. The raw ingredients are there for Underwood to succeed but he’s going to have to work on fastball command first and foremost; everything else will play up if he can locate his fastball effectively. The curve command will have to come along as well, as he will have to learn how to throw the pitch for effective strikes. At present, it’s just a chase pitch and the higher levels will lay off. Underwood is intriguing, but he’ll need refinement. —Mauricio Rubio

    Author: Cubster
    1 day 1 hour ago
  • BP writeup on 3 of the Cub farmhands not in the core:

    Marco Hernandez, SS, Cubs (High-A Daytona)
    There is no system in baseball with more shortstop depth than the Cubs', which is unfortunate for Marco Hernandez, who is as blocked as any minor leaguer in the game. Hernandez will never be Chicago's starting shortstop, but he probably won't be anyone else's starting shortstop either because he doesn't profile to have any impact with the bat. He's a slap hitter from the left side who makes no effort to drive the ball, understanding his role as a speed-based player. He puts the ball on the ground repeatedly but he will never have better than an average hit tool with no power. Where Hernandez makes his name is in the field. He's a plus-plus shortstop who can be a true asset both with his glove and his arm. Smooth and fluid on routine ground balls, he also features plus range to either side and natural creativity on tough plays, regularly flipping the ball behind his back or between his legs on double play turns when necessary. Hernandez won't hit enough to play regularly on a good team and is about the fifth best option for the Cubs at the position, but his glove should be enough to carry him to the majors and allow him to carve out a Freddy Galvis–like role. —Jeff Moore

    Author: Cubster
    1 day 1 hour ago
  • Pat Bourque. There's a name from the past that gives me the heebie jeebies. How about another like Gene Hiser (Cubs' 1st round pick in 1970)? They REALLY didn't know how to draft and develop position players back then.

    Author: JoePepitone
    1 day 1 hour ago
  • Dan Vogelbach is hitting 317/378/561 over his last ten games at Daytona, and he has gone 31 consecutive Plate Appearances without striking out and has struck out just once in his last 38 PA.

    Author: Arizona Phil
    1 day 4 hours ago
  • Look at the list, http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/news/prospects/ind...

    More talent in that group of 20 than all of the Hendry years combined. The really sad part is when Hendry left, Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters were the crown jewel of his farm system.

    I think we can finally see what it means to invest in scouts, have a GM that knows how to evaluate talent, and have the coaches in place to work with talent. All of that was missing under Hendry, and Theo has done a damn fine job so far into making it a real minor league system. Instead of just a couple jokes (Jackson and Vitters) and a whole lot of nothing behind it.

    Kind of the lost in the shuffle are guys like Schwarber, and McKinney who I think could be just as good as the names we all know.

    Author: MikeC
    1 day 4 hours ago
  • Definitely a first in my lifetime, this minor league thing.

    I remember reading the Sporting News long ago and every year looking to see how their ONE good prospect was doing. Then he'd come up to the majors, back in the day when there was no Internet, and you'd see a huge hitch in his swing, ala Pat Bourque. No warnings from forum posters, nothing. Just this awful hitch, and you knew, right then, that the guy you'd been watching in the minor league stats sheets was going to bomb badly.

    Today, the Cubs almost have too many prospects - not that there really can be such a thing. But it won't be long until we see the team competitive and then some prospects like Villanueva and Vogelbomb get traded for a veteran pitcher, and they'll go on to great things. It's probably inevitable that a lower level prospect or two gets traded and TheoCorp will take some heat for it, but it's also unavoidable because they will eventually have to package some for starting pitching. I see this as a good thing.

    Author: Old and Blue
    1 day 6 hours ago
  • Bring 'em up!!!

    Author: Old and Blue
    1 day 7 hours ago
  • Soler homers.

    Author: Craig A.
    1 day 12 hours ago
  • http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140726&content_id=86410954&not...

    says he's being sent down to get a bit of a rest, won't report to Iowa immediately, Renteria thinks he'll be back in 10 days. We'll see...

    Says Schlitter and Grimm may get the same treatment.

    Author: Rob G.
    2 days 17 hours ago
  • Russell and Baez both HR. Soler seems like he's a man on a mission.

    Author: Carlito
    2 days 17 hours ago
  • ...and then the 7th inning happened and this game sucks again.

    Author: crunch
    2 days 20 hours ago
  • these past 2 days of games vs STL has been great...tie game in the 6th

    pinch hit HR by sureholds...first PH homer of the season for the cubs.

    Author: crunch
    2 days 21 hours ago
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