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SP Ben Sheets SP *Cliff Lee
  10-3, 2.85, 108 K, 28 BB, 123 IP
12-2, 2.31 ERA, 106 K, 20 BB, 124 IP
SS Hanley Ramirez (FLA) RF *Ichiro Suzuki (SEA)
2B *Chase Utley (PHI) SS Derek Jeter (NYY)
1B #Lance Berkman (HOU) CF *Josh Hamilton (TEX)
DH Albert Pujols (STL) 3B Alex Rodriguez (NYY)
3B #Chipper Jones (ATL) LF Manny Ramirez (BOS)
RF Matt Holliday (COL) DH #Milton Bradley (TEX)
LF Ryan Braun (MIL) 1B Kevin Youkilis (BOS)
CF *Kosuke Fukudome (CUBS) C *Joe Mauer (MIN)
C Geovany Soto (CUBS) 2B Dustin Pedroia (BOS)













The ASG comes to The House That Enrique Wilson Built for the fourth and final time as the National League tries to win the damn thing for the first time since 1996. Our man Fukudome and young Geo bring up the bottom of the NL order.

Come gametime, join all the cool kids in Parachat. I hear they're just going to be hanging out, drinking beer, and shooting off fireworks.


I'll be the first to say it:

This lineup sucks.

Beer and Fireworks? I'm sooooo there....

man for man, i like the NL lineup better.

All but maybe that 6 spot. Milton is having a monster season.

I'm not even going to say it.

"All but maybe that 6 spot. Milton is having a monster season."

Is this a Milton the Monster Show (an obscure mid-60's Saturday a.m. cartoon TV program) reference?

I was told there'd be beer. I'm in parachat now -- no beer. What gives?

great. manny being manny. leaving bats lying around for Geo to slip on.

stupid all star game.

Z... that was brilliant!!!

Loved the playful toss at Manny... and then the pickoff of Parker Brothers. Rock on.

Dear NL all stars, please win this game for once because the cubbies need the home field advantage. thanks!

Dear Clint Hurdle,
You're a retard for taking out a guy who just struck out two batters to bring in Billy Effing Wagner.

Great article on Harden's first start, thought I would share:

Fuck you, Billy Wagner.

Dempster was just filthy. That was fun to watch.

I honestly didn't know Dempster could hit 96.

Anybody else notice Rammy's shoes? Tip of the cap to A Rod?

Some good stuff about the history of white shoes in the ASG at the end of this article.

Wow, if we need a new goat to come to Wrigley to break the curse we might as well just get Dan Uggla.

Inning-ending GIDP with a runner on third followed by back-to-back errors. You fucking bum.


Followed by taking his sweet ass time on the throw to home on what should have been a double play. God I hate this guy.

--2nd edit--
Holy shit, Old Man Tejada saves Butt PlUggla with a great defensive play. Let's hope Marmol doesn't need to come anywhere near the mound tonight.

My god, that had to have been the single worst performance in All Star game history. Possibly in any game's history. He had the chance to redeem himself, and struck out with the bases loaded and one out. Then ANOTHER ERROR!!!! Buck tried to bail him out saying it was a bad bounce, but he's a fucking major leaguer. The ball hit him in the glove - he should make that play.

Dan Uggla is the new Barrett.

Dan "Laces Out" Uggla.

Sweet. Uggla single handedly ruined the NL's chances at this one. GIDP, E4, E4. Sweet.

Holy Crap.

I can't believe Cook got out of that.

And a helluva' play by Tejada.

OK, I eat my words. That was some gutsy pitching by Cook, and I love the Tejada play to end the 10th.

Its so weird to root for these guys. I was excited about Pujols going burnses...

Someone explain to me why you don't walk the next two guys w/ Guillen on third? Load the bases, a run wins it, so it doesn't matter. Set up the force at any base?

Uggla really really doesn't want the Cubs to have home field advantage. Really.

Props to Tejada, Martin, McLouth and most of the NL pitchers. Great outings by Z, Demp and Zeus.

Pity for Uggla.

Great game, but I hated the outcome. NL should've won this. Seriously.

Great All-Star Game strategy once again. Let's make absolutely certain that Puhols and Berkman have no chance to bat with the game on the line. Either this is about winning, or it's about getting all the whiny kids a chance to play in a real live al-star game. Every damn year, they can't seem to figure out which it should be. Guys like Puhols and Berkman should play the entire game. Period. Why the heck am I forced to watch Ryan Ludwick and Christian Guzman? Is this what the fans are clamoring for? More playing time for the second string? Screw you, Hurdle.

You really cant blame Hurdle for doing what everyone does. He actually held his starters in a bit longer than most managers have done in recent years. The only bad thing he did was not taking out Uggla after the 9th. He could have easily played McCann at C, Martin at 3rd and Guzman at 2nd. All of the non-Cub starters played into the 6th. Also was it just me or when TBS did the Selection Show didnt they say Valverde was on the team?

Yes I sure can blame Hurdle for doing what everyone does. Becuase now that the game actually means something, it's pretty clear that what everyone always does is pretty stupid.

I think if they're going to keep this stupid home field advantage rule, then the manager of each team should be the manager of the team with the best record in each league at the break. Clint Hurdle has absolutely no incentive to win the game because his team isn't going to sniff the postseason. Lou may have managed the game much differently because he's got a serious vested interest in winning.

Maybe the manager of the team with best record as of 7/1 or something, just to make sure they know a little ahead of time who is going to manage.

I totally agree. If the game has to mean something, then the very best players should play until they are injured or pulled for a legitimate baseball reason, not just to get a Pirate an at-bat. And the fans choices of starters should only be a suggestion, not a rule. I like seeing everyone get their chance to play and seeing all the teams represented, but I like winning a whole lot more. If this stupid game continues to have a meaningful result, I think the fans will understand if their favorite player doesn't get in the game.

I dont think losing homefield tonight is that much of a deathblow to our chances to win the World Series. I'll take our chances of Z and Harden splitting the first 2 games and then sweeping the home games. All this really means is that I dont want want to see the Angels in the WS. There probably a better road then home team.

That's the spirit! It means that Demp will pitch at home. Isn't that where we want him to pitch anyway?

Well... I don't really think it matters.

Once you look beyond the gaudy win-loss record at home, he hasn't pitched much worse on the road. He has had two bad games on the road, which have blown up his road ERA a bit, but he has been pretty damn good both at home AND on the road.

I think the idea of having a U. S. versus "World" format might be the better way to play the All-Star game in the 21st Century, like they do with the Futures Game. Just make it an exhibition or pagent or celebration or whatever and don't make it mean anything.

And then compare the interleague records of the two World Series teams to decide home field advantage.

I'm pretty sure the US would get destroyed every year if that were the case. I like the concept though. Maybe North America versus the World. That might skew it the other way, but at least we'd get to cheer for a winner for a change.

Hmm... I think the US wins big. Or... they at least have the better team.

Chase Utley (PHI)
Derek Jeter (NYY)
Lance Berkman (HOU)
Josh Hamilton (TEX)
Alex Rodriguez (NYY) ??
Chipper Jones (ATL)
Matt Holliday (COL)
Milton Bradley (TEX)
Ryan Braun (MIL)
Kevin Youkilis (BOS)
Matt Holliday (COL)
Joe Mauer (MIN)
Dustin Pedroia (BOS)
Justin Duchscherer, OAK
Roy Halladay, TOR
Scott Kazmir, TB
Cliff Lee, CLE
Joe Nathan, MIN
Jonathan Papelbon, BOS
Joe Saunders, LAA
George Sherrill, BAL
Jason Varitek, BOS
Justin Morneau, MIN
Ian Kinsler, TEX
Michael Young, TEX
Joe Crede, CWS
Evan Longoria, TB
J.D. Drew, BOS
Grady Sizemore, CLE
Milton Bradley, TEX
Kerry Wood, CHC
Brandon Webb, ARI
Brian Wilson, SF
Dan Haren, ARI
Brad Lidge, PHI
Tim Lincecum, SF
Aaron Cook, COL
Ben Sheets, MIL
Billy Wagner, NYM
Russell Martin, LA
Corey Hart, MIL
Brian McCann, ATL
Nate McLouth, PIT
David Wrightª, NYM
Dan Uggla, FLA
Ryan Ludwick, STL

Ichiro Suzuki (SEA)
Hanley Ramirez (FLA)
Albert Pujols (STL)
Manny Ramirez (BOS)
Kosuke Fukudome (CUBS)
Geovany Soto (CUBS)
Mariano Rivera, NYY
Francisco Rodriguez, LAA
Ervin Santana, LAA
Joakim Soria, KC
Dioner Navarro, TB
Carlos Guillen, DET
Carlos Quentin, CWS
Carlos Marmol, CHC
Edinson Volquez, CIN
Carlos Zambrano, CHC
Ryan Dempster, CHC
Miguel Tejada, HOU
Adrian Gonzalez, SD
Aramis Ramirez, CHC
Cristian Guzman, WAS

Apparently I was too lazy to do the research. It just seems like there's a disproportionately high number of Latin Americans in MLB. Guess not.

Russell Martin and Justin Morneau are Canadian, and Carlos Quentin is from San Diego. 


Well - too late to edit my comment.

Close enough though... the US team is still better.

After thinking about it a bit more, I think the World team would have better pitching and the US team would have better hitting. You also have to factor in guys who didn't make the All Star team.

- Harden
- Sabathia
- J Santana
- Matsuzaka
- F Hernandez

Yeah I thought the US team would win the World Baseball Classic too and they got handled, even by teams full of non major leaguers. Now I think being in mid-season form would help the US team a lot, but still, only about 15 of those guys on the US list would get in the game. So while the depth is perhaps better, a strong starting 9 and a few solid pitchers would make it a battle.

Dempster is also Canadian

Which is why I had him on the World team.

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