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Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

I don't know anything about this pitcher or the site, but it's being reported by Sports Hochi(?) that the Cubs are close to signing left-handed pitcher Ken Takahashi. A 40-year old pitcher (technically 39, he'll be 40 by next April) that had a 3.50 ERA last year in a 115.2 IP last year; the article mentions he could start or pitch out of the bullpen. NPB Tracker that picked up the story says that the Cubs were searching for some support for Kosuke Fukudome.

We tried this with our labrador when she was about two. She tore through everything in the house and outside while me and The Angel Fan Wife were both at work, so we decided to get her a buddy in the name of a dalmation that we affectionately named Wrigley. For the five years we had Wrigley before she passed away they had nothing to do with each other and co-existed like two roommates forced together in a rent-controlled apartment that neither one wants to give up. So my advice to the Cubs is to do your homework and make sure the breeds get along...and make sure they have their shots...don't leave any food out either...make sure at least one of them is fixed as well.


P.S. - If this is indeed a major league deal, the Cubs will need to drop someone off their 40-man roster before it's finalized.

P.P.S. - Some stats from Japanese Ballplayers.com and a more thorough scouting report from NPB Tracker back in late December that included a couple of videos.

P.P.P.S. - Cubs deny the report.

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#1 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

i sure hope mthis is not the pitcher hendry was looking for
if it is someone to keep fukadome company with in spring training
then ok, i would hope were looking at bigger names though

#2 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Bullpen lefty/spot starter--that's what MLB Trade Rumors speculates at least, and, believe me, they're pretty reliable.

#3 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

"make sure at least one of them is fixed as well"

Fuki needs to be a different kind of "fixed" by the time the regular season starts.

#4 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Takahashi: "It looks like teammate Hiroki Kuroda inspired this: ”I’m interested in seeing what American baseball is like. The image of Kuroda has had a big impact."
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...couldn't they just put a picture of Kuroda and Takahashi in Carp uniforms on Fukudome's locker, it'd be less expensive and he could still talk to it.

#5 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Hey, he's 39...So was Jack Benny.

#6 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Muskrat picks up the same story...

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090111&c...

#7 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Muskat did add this little tidbit...

Cubs have considered adding a Japanese batting coach to help Fukudome make the adjustment.

(Gerald Perry was seen downloading a new version of the Rosetta Stone software)

#31 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Hi, I'm Chicago Cubs hitting coach Gerald Perry. When we doubled the number of Japanese players on our team, I decided it was time to learn Japanese. I picked up a copy of Rosetta Stone at my local FYE store, and I've got to tell you, it works great.

EAT YOUR HEART OUT, MICHAEL PHELPS!

#8 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

I wouldn't have a problem with this idea if Hendry hadn't already wasted $1.1MM on Cotts. You want two lefties in the bullpen. So if Marshall is in the rotation, then fine. But by all accounts, Hendry still wants a veteran for that #5 rotation spot and keep Marshall as his utility pitcher. So hard to see where there's room for both Cotts and a play buddy for Fukkake.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since Cotts was re-signed, he cannot be traded until June 15, is that so?

#9 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Responding to my own post, sorry about that, but I wanted to add this for discussion. Assuming Hendry does yet trade for or sign a veteran #5 starter, isn't this how the bullpen shakes out as of now? I'm assuming a 7-man pen.

Closer/9th inning man: Marmol
Setup/8th inning man: Gregg
Pre-setup/7th inning man: Samardzija
Middle relief: Gaudin, competition between Hart, Guzman, Atkins and Wuertz
LOOGY: Cotts
Long relief/spot starter: Marshall

Question: is the Japanese guy a potential LOOGY specialist?

#10 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Samardzija has options, if he doesn't win the starting job, I'm guessing he gets sent down. I wouldn't be too surprised if this was the pitching that Hendry was looking to add.

#11 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

as for the current pitching w/o this Takahashi fella

http://www.thecubreporter.com/cubsdepthchart

Starters: Z, Harden, Dempster, Lilly, Marshall

Bullpen: Marmol, Gregg,  Vizcaino, Cotts, Gaudin, Wuertz, Guzman (the last 4 are all out of options)

#12 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Please tell me Hendry plans on dumping Vizcaino on some other team in a trade, even if he must eat some money to do so. This guy STINKS.

#13 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

lefties that throw in the mid 90s with a mid-80 secondary pitch you give 1.1m to. that's one that 30 out of 30 teams would do.

seems to me there's a needless stockpiling of pen arms and some might go in trade.

cotts would be one of those guys a lot of teams would want...wuertz, too.

#15 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Great handle, Jim! Besides Ernie Banks, Hickman was my favorite Cub back in the day. He won two games with walk off homers early in 1969, within a week of each other, and I was hooked. He was the only guy in the lineup who did anything worth a damn in September that year. Then that great 1970 season. It seemed like the next thing I knew, he was gone and Andre Thornton was at first.

#14 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Unless the other shoe falls in the form of some kind of trade, I'm not understanding these minor moves by Hendry. Gathright, Miles, now Takahashi all seem like inferior versions of what we already have.

#16 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Submitted by Jim Hickmans Bat on Mon, 01/12/2009 - 12:22am.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since Cotts was re-signed, he cannot be traded until June 15, is that so?

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JIM H: Only Article XX MLB free-agents who sign a Major League contract after the conclusion of the 15-day Free-Agency Filing Period get an automatic "no trade" through June 15th (and that's even if the player re-signs with his old club).

So Milton Bradley gets one, and so do Kerry Wood (with CLE) and Bob Howry (with SF), but Aaron Miles and Joey Gathright (who became free-agents after being non-tendered on 12/12) do not get one.

Likewise, if the Cubs sign a Japanese FA, he doesn't get an automatic "no trade," either.

#17 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Well, the Braves signed Fukudome's former teammate Kawakami. I wonder if he was seriously considered by Hendry. He was one of the elite Japanese pitchers, apparently.

Didn't the Cubs try the "buddy" thing last year when they brought in the former White Sox rag-arm/side arm pitcher?

#18 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Hendry almost has enough assets to make two deals, one for Peavy and another for Roberts.

(ducks)

#19 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

He should have pulled the trigger on the Peavy deal. The Cubs have a long, recent tradition of not getting anything productive from the farm system anyways.

Of course Soto comes to mind... but before that? Wood? And the guy responsible for Wood's success is long gone.

#22 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Our best reliever, or starting middle infield and our nominal ace are from said minor league system.

#63 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

True. Still, Marmol and ... umm... whoever you are talking about: "starting middle infield" could very easily be replaced with a few bucks.

#69 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

I think it would it would take more than a few bucks to replace Marmol's performance, like Kerry Wood's $10 million a year or so. Also, part of the value of the young players is that they are cheap--which theoretically allows the team to spend money elsewhere.

#20 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Soto
Zambrano
Marshall
Theriot
Fontenot-from Baltimore, still played in the Cubs organization for a couple seasons before sticking in MLB
Marmol
Samardzija
Cedeno

#23 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Just what the hell is Cedeno doing on that list? He can't even perform the reverse chalupa without fucking it up.

#21 Re: "I don't know anything about this pitcher"

Well, I put this story up last November...

... "'I got a call from my agent. I can say that more than one club has made me offers,' said Takahashi, who holds a 66-87 record with five saves and a 4.23 ERA in 14 seasons—all with the Hiroshima Carp. He was 8-5 with a 3.50 ERA in 21 games, including 20 starts, in 2008. According to baseball sources, the CHICAGO CUBS, San Diego Padres, Milwaukee Brewers and New York Mets are among the major league clubs that appear interested in acquiring Takahashi."

#24 Re: Jumbo

Jumbo, your well thought out criticism is appreciated.

Cedeno, brain cramps and all,has been a starter/backup the last 3 seasons, providing at least some value.

#25 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Hendry had suggested earlier this offseason that he would still be adding some "live arms" to the pitching staff.

At 39, Takahashi's arm may still be alive, but possibly on life support.

#26 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

What....Rick Honeycutt's agent didn't return a call?

#29 Re: Cubs Close to Signing Japanese Pitcher

Wait until terms come out.

NTC
Player option
Incentive clauses
Backloaded
Full Market price

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