Angels Victory a Saturday in the Park

Trey Martin singled twice, walked, stole two bases, drove-in a run and scored another, Dong Yub Kim singled and doubled and knocked-in two runs, and Danny Lockhart and Justin Marra belted back-to-back RBI triples, but it wasn’t enough as the Angels scored five runs in the top of the 2nd inning and cruised to a 9-5 victory over the Cubs in Cactus League Extended Spring Training action this morning at Fitch Park Field #3 in Mesa, AZ.

20-year old South African RHP Tayler Scott (Cubs 2011 5th round pick out of Notre Dame Prep in Scottsdale, AZ) had his third rough outing in a row, allowing five runs on seven hits (including a double and a triple) and a walk without retiring a batter in the top of the 2nd inning, after a five-pitch 1-2-3 top of the 1st inning.

While the Cubs were playing the Angels on Field #3, RHPs Su-Min Jung (control issues), David Cales (2011 shoulder surgery rehab), and Arturo Maltos-Garcia (July 2011 TJS rehab) faced-off in a three-inning “sim” game on Field #2, with Cub position players who were not in the starting lineup on Field #3 providing the opposition.

Here is the box score from today’s game (Cubs players only):

CUBS LINEUP:
1. Trey Martin, CF: 2-3 (1B, 6-4 FC, 1B, BB, R, RBI, 2 SB)
2. Shawon Dunston Jr, LF: 1-4 (F-9, P-5, 1B, P-2)
3a. Gioskar Amaya, 2B: 0-1 (F-9)
3b. Danny Lockhart, 2B: 1-3 (2-3, 3B, K, R, RBI)
4a. Wilson Contreras, C: 1-2 (K-WP, 1B, SB)
4b. Justin Marra, C: 1-2 (3B, K, RBI)
5a. Rock Shoulders, 1B: 0-2 (F-7, K)
5b. Dan Vogelbach, 1B: 0-2 (K, F-8)
6. Marco Hernandez, SS: 1-4 (3-U, L-5, 1-3, 2B)
7. Jeimer Candelario, 3B: 0-4 (F-7, 4-3, P-6, F-8)
8. Xavier Batista, RF: 0-4 (K, 6-3, K, F-9)
9. Dustin Geiger, DH #1: 1-3 (BB, K, 2B, 6-3, R)
10a. Garrett Schlecht, DH #2: 0-1 (P-5, BB, R)
10b. SLOT WAS SKIPPED LAST TIME THRU BATTING ORDER
11a. SLOT WAS SKIPPED FIRST TIME THRU THE BATTING ORDER
11b. Dong-Yub Kim, DH #3: 2-2 (2B, 1B, R, 2 RBI)

CUBS PITCHERS:
1. Tayler Scott: 1.0 IP, 7 H, 5 R (5 ER), 1 BB, 0 K, 1 WP, 37 pitches (20 strikes), 1/2 GO/FO
NOTE: Top of the 2nd inning was stopped with bases loaded and no outs after Scott threw his 32nd pitch of the inning
2. Matt Spencer: 1.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 1 K, 45 pitches (21 strikes), 2/1 GO/FO
NOTE: Top of the 4th inning was stopped with one out and bases loaded after Spencer reached his max pitch limit
3. Alvido Jimenez: 3.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R (2 ER), 0 BB, 3 K, 35 pitches (24 strikes), 2/4 GO/FO
4. Bryce Shafer: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 2 R (1 ER), 1 BB, 2 K, 1 BALK, 28 pitches (16 strikes), 1/2 GO/FO

CUBS ERRORS: 1
P Bryce Shafer - E-1 (throwing error allowed batter to reach base safely - eventually scored unearned run)

CUBS CATCHERS DEFENSE
Justin Marra: 1 PO

ATTENDANCE: 17

WEATHER: Sunny and a bit breezy with temperatures 100+

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Phil - I posted this on another thread, but it may already be dead. If a college player who has no eligibility left fails to sign by the week before the next draft, does he become a total free agent, or is he subject to the new draft. And if so, does he ever become a free agent?

Sat, 06/02/2012 - 6:53pm — DavidP

Phil - I posted this on another thread. If a college player who has no eligibility left fails to sign by the week before the next draft, does he become a total free agent, or is he subject to the new draft. And if so, does he ever become a free agent?

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DAVID P: If a college player with no eligibility left is drafted but does not sign, the club that drafted him retains exclusive negotiating rights with the player (he remains on the club's "Negotiation List") until one week prior to the next MLB Rule 4 Draft. Then after a one-week period where he cannot sign with any MLB club, the player is once again eligible for selection in the MLB Rule 4 Draft.

The player cannot become an unrestricted free-agent unless and until he goes undrafted, so theoretically a player could get selected in the Rule 4 Draft and not sign (perhaps opting to play independent ball or in a foreign league instead) year after year after year (until he goes undrafted).

This has never been challenged in court, but I guess it could be.

With six more players having been sent back to the Cubs Dominican Academy from Extended Spring Training this week, only five "graduates" of the 2011 Dominican Summer League (DSL) remain at Fitch Park: RHP Jose Arias, 3B Jeimer Candelario, SS Carlos Penalver, OF-1B Xavier Batista, and OF Jeffry Baez.

X. Batista spent the 2010 season in the U. S. (EXST and AZL Cubs) before being sent back to the DSL in 2011, and Baez is rehabbing a broken wrist suffered when he dove for a ball in RF in an EXST game in April. I don't know if Baez will be remaining in the U. S. (at AZL Cubs) or if he will be going back to the Dominican Academy when he returns to the active list (which should be soon).

The DSL kids who remain at Extended Spring Training are certainly the "cream of the crop," but even so it appears that the Cubs are now taking a more conservative approach with promoting players from their two DSL teams to the AZL Cubs and Boise than in the past. We'll have to see how often players are moved up to the AZL Cubs and/or Boise from the DSL during the course of the 2012 season (DSL Opening Day was today).

Thanks for that update. I'm glad guys like Acosta and Malave aren't being pushed with the massive culture change/language/etc of being in a foreign country in their first pro season (well, Malave is from Venezuela but I bet the DR is easier to adjust to than the U.S.).

Sat, 06/02/2012 - 10:35pm — Raisin101

Thanks for that update. I'm glad guys like Acosta and Malave aren't being pushed with the massive culture change/language/etc of being in a foreign country in their first pro season (well, Malave is from Venezuela but I bet the DR is easier to adjust to than the U.S.).

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RAISIN: I know you know this, but others might not be aware of it...

11 Latin players who attended Minor League Camp and/or Extended Spring Training at Fitch Park this season (pitchers Daniel Adrian, Javier Castro, Augusto Colina, Jorge Diaz, and Loiger Padron, catchers Wilfredo Petit and Antonio Valerio, infielders Luis Acosta and Mark Malave, and outfielders Delbis Arcila and Kevin Encarnacion) have returned to the Dominican Academy and were assigned to one of the Cubs DSL squads.

In years past, Latin players who came up for Minor League Camp and/or Extended Spring Training at Fitch Park would normally remain in Arizona and play that season for the AZL Cubs (or Boise). Once the player was in Arizona, he usually would stay. And the players knew that, too, so just getting to Fitch Park might have become a kind of end-game goal to some of the players in the DSL.

But now it looks like the Cubs are looking at the Dominican Academy almost like a college program, where they don't think twice about a player remaining in the DSL for two or three, maybe even four seasons, without the player losing "prospect status." The player might come to Mesa for Minor League Camp or Extended Spring Training, or for AZ Instructs, but then he goes back to Boca Chica for the DSL season.

And I think there are several reasons why the Cubs are doing this:

1. They might feel that some of the Latin American prospects they have signed over the years were rushed and were not allowed to develop at their own pace;

2. It is now much easier for a foreign player to get a work visa than it used to be (there used to be a limit on the number of H2B visas each MLB organization could get in a given year), so coming up to Fitch Park just for Minor League Camp and/or Extended Spring Training (or AZ Instructs) and then returning to the DR is no hassle and no big deal;

3. The Cubs added a second DSL team in 2008 and now have two DSL teams (DSL Cubs #1 and DSL Cubs #2), and so they need twice as many players to stock the two teams as was the case when they had only one team in the DSL. (U. S. players cannot play in the DSL). Why two DSL squads? If the Cubs have two really good Latin shortstop prospects (for instance), they both can getting regular playing time at SS in the DSL instead of having to play one of them at another position or move one of them up to the AZL Cubs just to insure regular playing time for both at their natural position.

4. The Cubs are building a new state-of-the-art academy in the Dominican Republic that will open in 2013 that will be better (in many ways) than the facilities at Fitch Park, so why send a player to the AZL if he can receive good instruction in a first-class facility in the Dominican Republic while developing his skills playing in the DSL?

watching the highlights i noticed the 2nd (winning) run scored on yet another boring, yet-not-turned double play.

this is getting kinda stupid and i dunno wtf can be done about it besides demanding the infield charge more balls and having d.barney actually make some of those throws to 1st when the runner is coming in to knock him off balance.

Ah. The infamous finger-up-ass mechanical flaw. Always seems like it ought to be an easy fix.

yeah, i edited that part out...but yes, d.barney needs to get his finger out of his ass rather than tumbling ball-in-hand every DP opportunity that pops up.

sometimes it's not his fault, but meh...he topples without throwing a whole lot.

both castro and d.barney take a game of inches with turning the DP and do just enough to not get it done more often than they should. they got lots of positives with the D, but it seems they just f'n suck at turning a DP.

-and judging from the expression on his face last night, I'd say that Garza agrees with you.

looked like he was really yelling at Barney.

Garza shouldn't say shit to anyone about fielding until he fixes his own issues.

It was described in the Tribune that Huff took him out on a slide. Is that not what happened?

I'd definitely like to see us get Jacob Turner (or another front-line starter prospect) and 1 or 2 more good prospects for Garza. If Dempster continues consistent quality starts, I think we can get a little more than Bowden suggests. I'd love to be able to trade LaHair, but he needs to get hot again and show it wasn't just a great first 6 weeks.

If Theo can get Turner and Castellanos for Garza I'm not sure what's holding him back.

Edit: It seems like Turner might be hurt, but castellanos is currently raking. Of course a .491 is very sustainable.

"I'd love to be able to trade LaHair"

I don't think it's the new FO's MO to trade a guy making the ML minimum and under control for a few more years who represents their only lefty power bat above AAA.

Yea, it seems like LaHair is the kind of guy they want more of, not less of. The trade only makes sense if Theo is bearish on LaHair. And the trade doesn't make too much sense from the other side.

Other than that one, the rest of those trades seem like generally good ideas to me.

If the medicals on Turner aren't prohibitive, I would pull the trigger on that deal with Detroit now if this has any accuracy (big IF when tossing out trade rumors because you work for ESPN).

I agree....though I thought I read before the season that Turner would not be traded.

Az Phil -- Thank you for the update!

Did you have a chance to see the sim game? After seeing the scouting report on Maltos-Garcia, I think he is going to become one of our better pitching prospects (which isn't saying much) if he fully recovers. Also, I am a fan of David Cales (went to my high school, one of my best friends coached him there) and think he will be a strong set-up man when he gets back to form. As such, I wanted to know if you have had a chance to to AM-G or Cales yesterday or previously.

Thank you again for your summary and any insight!

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 10:28am — springs

Az Phil -- Thank you for the update!

Did you have a chance to see the sim game? After seeing the scouting report on Maltos-Garcia, I think he is going to become one of our better pitching prospects (which isn't saying much) if he fully recovers. Also, I am a fan of David Cales (went to my high school, one of my best friends coached him there) and think he will be a strong set-up man when he gets back to form. As such, I wanted to know if you have had a chance to to AM-G or Cales yesterday or previously.

Thank you again for your summary and any insight!

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SPRINGS: Yes, I did see both of them throw.

Cales is just getting back into game action, but he looked OK and (being a relief pitcher) if all goes well he could get assigned someplace fairly quickly. He was at AA when he got hurt last year, so I would think he would probably initially go to Daytona when he leaves Arizona.

AMG has been throwing in EXST games as well as in "sim" games, essentialy alternating every-other outing EXST-sim-EXST-sim, etc. He looks rusty and he needs to get command of his breaking ball before he will be effective, though, because he uses his fastball to set-up the breaking ball (his strikeout pitch). He was a starting pitcher in JUCO, but he probably projects as a reliever in pro ball.

soriano breaks up t.wood's no-hitter in the bottom 5th, 1 out.

right over his head for a double...very catchable (2 days in a row)...

he's pretty limited out there with his knee issues and recovers poorly from screw-ups.

...and of course the run scores. ...and you have to catch the ball before you apply a tag k.hill.

soriano is getting hard to watch...both for the missed plays and the fact he's obviously trooping through some pretty severe pain and still going out there almost every day.

...just missed another easy out for a healthy LF'r...thankfully this one landed foul. he didn't get close to it.

and speaking of k.hill...

Last Play: K. Hill struck out swinging, I. Stewart caught stealing

yeah, you gotta at least make contact on the hit-and-run, homie. sigh.

hey, i.stewart has 2 singles today so far...raised his BA 10 points back to .200+ land.

On the bright side, the Cubs are already out of contention and so it doesn't matter who plays LF. Sigh.

When Rizzo comes up could the move be Soriano to dl Lahair to left ?

The way LaHair has hit the last month he is danger of losing most of his playing time/being demoted.

June would be a good month for him to adjust and prove he can hit.

LaHair in May: .253/.343/.448 is in danger of losing his playing time?
Wow...for the league minimum...a month with 5 HR's and those numbers?

LaHair has proven to be very shitty at playing the expectations game.

LaHair last 28 days is hitting, .229/299/.343......oh yeah he is in danger of being benched/demoted/released.

He is 29 years old, he isn't some stud prospect with years of hitting in the majors under his belt, he needs to hit in June or he is finished. Rizzo will come up and permanently send LaHair to the bench.

Its really LaHair's choice of what kind of career he wants. Either adjust or perish.

Agreed he needs to adjust. 1 good month...1 bad month. Let's see how it goes going forward.

Keep him away from LH pitching, I want to see how this Jeff Baker kid does.

"shawn camp up for his daily workout in the pen." - len

hector sanchez (SF) is earning his pay today...and will promptly invest in a shin/foot guard after this game (fouled off painfully twice).

lulz...they're putting one on him now to finish his AB.

bob making a "closing the bar door after the horse has left" joke.

...and he flies out and the fans give him a hand for finishing the AB.

7ip 3h 1er 2bb 7k

awesome day for t.wood...too bad he's in line for the loss...russell in.

zito's pitching like he's he's in his early 20s again.

8.1ip 4h 0er 2bb 5k

romo for the save...and of course injures his fragile knee doing it.

hopefully for SF it's a minor tweak.

there is no hope for the cubs.

SF announcers all over Sori for throwing to 2nd.

-as are apparently some of his teamates.

Carrie Muskat‏@CarrieMuskat
‪#Cubs‬ RHP Marcos Mateo had Tommy John surgey on right elbow on Friday.

"I'm 36 years old, so, yeah, I would like to have the opportunity to ... if they want to trade me, I hope it is to a team that's a contender because it's about trying to go for that ring," Soriano said Sunday. "You want to feel good, feel like maybe you got a chance for that if we don't have a chance here. But like I said, it depends on them. I don't control the situation."

according to Jim Bowden tweet

Buxton, Correa, Gausman, Zimmer, Almora, Zunino, Fried will follow in some order

6. Chicago Cubs ($3.25M): Albert Almora, OF, Mater Academy (FL)
There's really no other names attached to the Cubs at this point. The presence of Correa could create a difficult decision, and there might be some interest in Fried, but they clearly prefer the high school position players.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php...

Scouting report on Almora:
http://baseballprospectnation.com/2012/05/11/...

Other prospects available there as well.

They want pitching, but their previous statements about this draft being generally deep in HS pitching leads me to think they want to get a position player early. Almora seems like someone who is being drafted much higher than he normally would in a normal year where there are a good number of quality hitters, but that is not true this year.

I still am hoping they roll the dice on Giolitto (sp?) and probably would also prefer his teammate Fried, but I would prefer Almora over Correa. If we can add Almora and, later this week, Soler, that would be a nice OF combo that, along with Kim (if his recent production is a sign of turning the corner) and Szcur would give us a good young pipeline of OF prospects.

Baseball America's mock this morning has them going with Almora too.

http://ht.ly/blw0B

Fun fact: pirates in 2nd place right now

Ben Badler‏@BenBadler
From a team reported to be in on Soler: "A lot of raw power…runs from breaking balls…flinches…runs around the OF like an 80-year-old man."

I'd be leaking quotes like that if I were in on him too.

My thoughts exactly...

@BenBadler Is that honesty or posturing?

Ben Badler‏@BenBadler
@ElMookador Honesty. Wouldn't pass it along if I thought it was anything else.

sounds like our man

Law now saying it's either Almora or Correa. Almora was previously the pick because Correa wasn't expected to be there.

Not that I'm sure the HS position players are gonna be great and all, but part of me is hoping this all a hope to drum up interest on them so that they're taken earlier and Gausman or Zimmer falls to them.

No Max Freid love, ROB G?

i'd never advocate grabbing a HS arm, at least not with a top 10 pick.

dylan bundy is disappoint.

though i agree with you unless the kid already has a developed (or damn near completely developed) offspeed pitch...that don't come up too often, though.

this year's crop of top college pitching is ZzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzz imo...appell and glausman.

the top HS-aged bats seem to be line drive "bit of all 5 tools" types rather than pure mashers.

i'm still a fan of the college catcher zioznoznionznzonio, but the cubs haven't been linked to him too much compared to others out there. there's nothing special about the guy...he's just seen as a "safe" pick who should move quickly through a system.

See if his arm doesn't fall apart first before we hand him a Cy Young for dominating Lo-A kids

if you're talking about d.bundy you're talking about a rarity, not just a kid.

he's part of that new gen of meddling parents that buy their kids custom vitamins and nutrition trainers at age 12...etc etc...

he had parents that weren't about to let their kid throw 150+ pitches in a game just to get his numbers up or make a coach look good.

plus, he's already got a developing curveball that he uses as a strikeout pitch along with the fastball. control over both is top notch. fastball, cutter, curve...control.

the "throws 100mph" stuff is hype, though he works mid-90s consistantly.

the guy projects to show up in the bigs in 2-3 years given where his development is...that's about the best you can hope for all but the most elite college pitchers.

I hope Samardzija wasn't expecting anymore runs.

Ben Badler‏@BenBadler
From a team reported to be in on Soler: "A lot of raw power…runs from breaking balls…flinches…runs around the OF like an 80-year-old man."
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Solar or You Know Who?

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_ex...

Another bullpen option...Chad Fox redux?:

The Cubs signed left-hander Hong-Chih Kuo to a minor league deal, Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune reports (on Twitter). Kuo signed a Major League deal with the Mariners in February and has been a free agent since Seattle released him in March.

Kuo struggled through 40 appearances in 2011, posting a 9.00 ERA with 12.0 K/9 and 7.7 BB/9 and missing time with an anxiety disorder. His results were much better before last year; he had a 3.19 career ERA with 10.5 K/9 and 3.5 BB/9 entering the 2011 season. The 30-year-old Octagon client underwent his fifth career elbow surgery in October of 2011 and the Dodgers non-tendered him two months later

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per Paul Sullivan via MLBTR
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/06/cubs-si...

he was still hitting 90+ after his last surgery.

wonder what he's got left in the arm.

Castro forgets how many outs, doesn't turn potential inning ending double play.

Steve rosenbloom article in 3...2...2

Kaplan having a Twitter coronary over it.

What other faux pas has Castro had this year? I honestly don't recall.

recently didn't slide on a blown hit and run, said he thought ball was fouled off.

He was out either way.

yeah, ive been harping on the DPs not turned, but i was leaving that one alone because no amount of practice/skill can make that kind of mental mistake better.

milton bradley approves.

Larry Walker, too.

Sveum trying to be tough:

Sveum's message for Starlin: “It’s the last straw. If he wants to play, he better start getting his head in the game. Period.”

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