Motor City Misery

11 Hits, 7 BB's for the Cubs offense....just 3 runs. One of those 11 hits was a solo home run by the somewhat rejuvenated Geovany Soto, meaning the Cubs needed 10 hits and 7 bb's to score the other 2 runs. The Yahoo box score says the Cubs left 13 on base as a team (seemed like 130), with Jake Fox and Micah Hoffpauir leading the way with 8 and 7 left on base each (some of those the same baserunners).  The offensive ineptitude and Rich Harden's gopher ball won't keep me from making fun of the bullpen though, who managed to walk in the two deciding runs.



Lilly tries to stave off the sweep tonight today.



Actually, the staving will take place this afternoon, weather gods permitting. And I'll be there! Actually, that was a decent lineup Lou put out there last night. I'd like to see more of the Micah and Fox show over this coming weekend.

Much of Detroit''s problems are of its own makings.
If you constantly elect and then support corrupt government; if you endorse a corrupt union that has done nothing but destroy the industry it depends on... then you have to be ready to accept those consequences that come along with them. One of the biggest issues that people have been making noise about has been same sex marriage, but in an obvious move to appease instead of pursue civil rights, the Obama Justice Department has committed to defending DOMA. DOMA, or the Defense Of Marriage Act, was a piece of legislation passed under President Clinton, which has been applauded by people that would give instant payday loans to have their fellow citizens under the heel of tyranny, and has been upheld.

My pullitiks are better than ur pullitiks!

This person just registered like an hour ago just to post this, and part of it is copied verbatim from a comment on another blog. Maybe Rob will delete this bit of retardation for us...

OOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKK, and now back to baseball...

1 for 29 with RISP in 3 games on the current road trip. How is it even possible to be that inept? I am more amazed at our suckiness with each passing day!!

CadeA, Go fuck yourself......That is all

I didn't see the entire game, but what I did see was an atrocious strike zone late. One strike call on Fox was terrible, and the last pitch of the game sure looked high.

I agree. Harden's strike zone was smaller than his counterpart's, as well. I was surprised that Lou didn't come out and argue a little at the end. I don't think they would have won, but Fukudome walked - no way that pitch was a strike.

Yeah, that was a horseshit call. Bradley got the benefit of the doubt on a pitch or two earlier.

I know this will probably do nothing but when a team underperforms this much I believe the Cubs should fire Lou.

Make Trammell or Brenly the manager what's the worse that could happen?

I don't agree that it's time for Lou to go. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

What can you make out of the highest paid team in the NL who lead the league in runs scored last year?

The Mets?

Ned Yost anyone?

Yes firing Lou can help.

I think zambrano should teach bradley the proper way to break a bat over your leg milton probally has a nice bruise,
not to mention his sore wrist i thought he did some serious
damage the way he was holding it after his failed dive for ball.
My guess is if he plays he will dh.

So who is the backup centerfielder? freel, miles

I hope some of you find this consoling,

On this date two years ago the Cubs were 36-39 and still won the division.

It's some consolation, but as I recall the Brewers were just starting their free fall, and the Astros were revving up. Not sure we will see a free fall from either of the two teams in front this season.

That IS very consoling, thank you.

I don't want to say I've written off this team and I know it's not even July yet, but this isn't a new season anymore and I don't believe good teams and division winners play like the Cub's played the past two months. It's not just the losses, it's the lack of energy.

Of course there are the teams like the '04 Astros who had a massive second-half after only being mediocre in the first half. If I remember correctly that happened after they fired their manager. (Not suggesting the Cub's should fire Lou or that was the reason for the Astro's success, I'm just pointing it out.)

Reason for Statistical Hope:

Current League BABip: .296
2008 NL BABip: .298

Cubs BABip, with RISP: .259

That's not just bad hitting, that's bad luck. If we were at just league average in this category, that would equal an additional 45 hits this year WITH RUNNERS IN SCORING POSITION (171 instead of 126). That right there is probably the margin between first and where we are now.

PS: We are over the league average in BABip in only one situation: Runner on First. With runners on 2nd and 3rd, our BABip is .172. That is almost impossible over a full season.

BABIP isn't just a measure of luck, it's also a measure of how well-hit the balls in play are hit.

Apparently Lou to bench Bradley until Saturday. Lou also was not happy with Gregg the other night and was complaining about this proclivity to give up home runs to the media:

In ex-Cub news, Marquis had a very Jason Marquis-esque game last night - 7 ER in 3.1 IP, ERA for the season now at 4.22. As expected.

I don't mind Lou or Gregg giving up HR's to the media.

We're benching Bradley in favor of Ryan Freel, or will it be Blanco or Miles? Yet another good idea from the think tank known as Lou Piniella.

Grammar police got me, damn. I should copy-edit my comments from now on.

Blanco has been one of the few guys producing, he's 7 for his last 21. Him being in the lineup doesn't bother me. Fontenot has been doing far worse.

Do you really think that Blanco is likely to outproduce Bradley in any given game?

Depends, you talking fantasy where only offensive numbers count or are you talking about real life where defense matters, too?

Either one. It doesn't really matter. Bradley is still much more likely to be productive.

Especially when you consider that Bradley's defensive replacement is Hoffpauir.

"In any given game?" What does that even mean? Do you think that Bradley has out-produced Blanco in every game they have played in during their careers? Bradley is more likely to outproduce Blanco over the long haul, yes. I never said anything to the contrary. But when Bradley is having a terrible year, is hitless in his last few games, has a sore wrist from a dive, likely a sore knee from smashing a bat on it, all while Blanco has been hot and coming up with clutch hits on a regular basis - I am ok with it for a couple of games.

Baseball isn't like blackjack where you play the percentages every time. If that were the case then the starters would play every single game because they are always more "likely" to have a good game than a bench player. But we are dealing with humans. When they are banged up, tired, sore, slumping, etc. they may actually do worse on a given day than someone with inferior ability who is well-rested and seeing the ball well.

Do you think that Bradley has out-produced Blanco in every game they have played in during their careers?

Huh? Where did I say that? I said that it was more likely that Bradley would out-produce Blanco in any game. It is pretty self explanatory. That doesn't mean that Bradley WILL always out-produce Blanco, but it does mean that he is more likely to do so.

Baseball isn't like blackjack where you play the percentages every time.

No... but you should put your best players on the field. A few games without a hit is not at all predictive of future success, whether we are talking about today's game or the "long haul."

Again, I am not disagreeing with you that Bradley is the better player or that he is more likely to play better in any randomly selected game. But that is not what filling out a lineup is. It is trying to figure out who is going to play best in THIS GAME only - which means looking at match-ups, thinking about injuries or personal issues the players might have, going with who is hot or cold, etc. It is easy to say that you "should put your best players on the field" but then no starter would ever sit out a game in his career - and that doesn't happen. Statistics, for example, don't take into account Dempster's baby, yet that bit of information that Lou knows would be key in helping him predict future success for Dempster - maybe he is really tired one night from traveling and Lou knows that he won't go long into the game.

But that is not what filling out a lineup is. It is trying to figure out who is going to play best in THIS GAME only - which means looking at match-ups, thinking about injuries or personal issues the players might have, going with who is hot or cold, etc.

I agree with you that you should factor some/most of those things in when filling out a lineup card.

I disagree with you that Blanco would ever be a better play than Bradley, unless Bradley needs a day off for some reason (rest, injury, etc.).

I have no problems with days off. I do have problems "benching" a player (if that is really what happened) for a lesser player, especially if it is done because of a ridiculously small sample size. BTW... even in Bradley's last three games with a hit? He still was on base five times due to walks for a .500 OBP.

He was actually being benched in favor of Miles, who hurt himself in batting practice, according to the Tigers' broadcasters.

Not sure if that makes it better or worse.

But again... if it is just a day off, I don't really have a problem with it. If it is a "benching," then I have some issues with it.

Agreed, I assume the Sun Times guy was being liberal with the term. It would take a lot for the Cubs' starting, $10 million RF to get benched. Most likely, Lou said he was going to be on the bench until Saturday to rest up and clear his head and the guy just heard "bench" and ran with it.

i love how that tweet says he was talking up Marmol...

Hahaha, it's funny because Marmol ought to kill himself over his bad performance.

Oh, wait, no, that's not funny in the slightest.

Should have gone with the Samurai tailor...

Soriano, Theriot, Lee (1B), Hoffpauir (RF), Fox (DH), Fontenot (3B), Fukudome, Hill, Blanco


Granderson, Santiago, Cabrera, Thames, Raburn, Inge, Ordonez, Ryan, Everett

Lilly(3.04 ERA) vs. Galarraga(5.62 ERA)

Blanco it is! That will get this offense jump started. I hope that nonsense about Bradley having the weekend off was just Lou blowing off steam or blowing smoke up the reporter's asses.

or he hurt his wrist and what's his face is stirring up controversy....

20 more games and his contract is guaranteed. Ugh.

or his leg from trying to break it after a K.

Oh Jake Fox... homers are for pussies.

Soriano looked SLOW on DLee's double play flyball. Is he hurt again? He seriously looked like he was jogging back to first.

I seriously believe at first he thought he only had to make it back to second on that play.

We need to face it. He's dumb as a stump.

That is the normal level of effort you get from Soriano, unfortunately... he would rather trot than run full speed.

And the misery continues....

What is Fontenot hitting sixth for? Every swing of his is defensive, particularly with guys on base. He's been awful.

Fontenot is a backup at best.

Need a laugh? Check out Kevin Hart's gameday photo. It's almost as silly as Aardsma's "crazy eyes" Y! Sports photo several years ago.

Cubs catcher Geovany Soto tested positive for marijuana use during the 2009 World Baseball Classic, and is ineligible to compete in international play for two years. The positive test does not affect his playing time in Major League Baseball with the Cubs.

That's very disappointing.

and is ineligible to compete in international play for two years.

Isn't the WBC every 4 years?

The positive test does not affect his playing time in Major League Baseball with the Cubs.

That's unfortunate.

He must have smoked a garbage bag full of weed with the weight he put on during the WBC.

Dear world,

Curtis Granderson can not hit Sean Marshall.

In two games: 6 pitches, 2 K.

At least we got a hit today with runners in scoring position: Fox's homer. That's 1 for our last 34 (1 for 6 today). The Tigers today? 5 for 10 with RISP.


That happened during a streak where we lost by 2,1,1 and 1, correct?

wasn't Fontenot on 2nd when Fukudome tripled? If so I believe we were 2/34 with 1 RBI with RISP in the series.

He was on first following a FC.

Misery loves company...

K-Rod walks Pujols, Ludwig before getting the third out. NYM 3, Stl 2.

that sucking sound is not just the cubs but the entire division

Lol - I love the photo of Marmol. He can't even hold the gun straight to blow his head off!!

The way we are going this year, he'd fuck that up too!

What, exactly, has Lou done to deserve being fired?

I wonder if there's ever been a manager who won two division titles and then was fired the next season because the team can't hit with RISP.

He does stupid things like resolving not to use Marmol, then thinking 'Oh, I guess I will use Marmol anyway, now that we're in a situation where his control problems will be even more problematic'.

What exactly did Perry do to get fired?

At least we scored some runs in the series.

Heh... someone on WGN Radio just called in and said, "[Lou] is worse than Dusty ever was!"

All managers do things that self-proclaimed experts don't think are correct.

You fire a hitting coach before you fire a manager. You think Greg Walker will outlast Ozzie Guillen?

On the bandwagon for firing Lou. Brenly has a hard time staying in his seat from all the puzzlement on the field:

Bradley needs a manager who will kick him in the pants and then cheer him when he hits.
Soriano needs a manager who will kick him in the pants and then cheer him on when he runs.
Micah needs a manager who will find a way for him to play to keep him sharp.
Font needs a manager who can get him to hit even out of position.
Soto needs to lay off the maryjane and bench him until he proves himself again.

And pitching...!!???!??? Lou: "CHeese, I'm in a new stadium, just like the playoffs 0-3"

Has there been 1 player who says, "Lou pulls us all together to go out there and win..." ??

Ask the Angels about their manager, the Cards about Tony (even tho I loath TLR).

Like the Blackhawks, do it now rather than later, so that when Ramirez (I know, he's not the savior), gets back somebody is making the moves to make this into 1st class team SO WE CAN CELEBRATE THE DEMISE OF THE TRIBUNE AS OWNERS. I'm mad as h_ _ _ _ and not going to take it anymore! There, I vented. I feel better already. Thanks for being there for me, TCR. Resume normal programming.

Soto has raised his OPS by nearly 100 points in the last 10 games and has thrown out 8 of the last 12 SB attempts. He's coming around I'm not too worried about him. No manager is going to change Soriano. Always was a diva, always will be a diva. If he's going to jake it with Frank Robinson what is Lou Piniella going to do that an old school no-nonsense guy who hit 586 HRs didn't? The only thing you can do to him is bench him and with the lack of depth in the OF that will only hurt the team, not to mention the $18m dollar factor. The Hawks didn't handle the Savard firing well either. Coach Q was already in the fold so they should have let Savey go before the season even started. That situation was a joke and not handled well at all for a guy who was a franchise player, HOFer, and total class act. McDonough was too busy lobbying EA Sports to get Kane on the cover of NHL10 among sending out a myriad of other unnecessary press releases.

"Font needs a manager who can get him to hit even out of position."

How does a manager do that? Lou has stuck with Fontenot despite the fact that he apparently has lost the ability to hit.

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  • Do you start him Sunday or not?

    @jonmorosi Pitchers w/ sub-2.00 ERA in year of 185+ IP this century: Pedro ’00, Clemens ’05, Kershaw ’13/’14, Arrieta ’15, Greinke ’15, Hendricks ’16.

    Rob G. 9 min 35 sec ago view
  • Yeah -- that would be rough for him. But, Monty is getting people out, he's a lefty and he has experience working out of the bullpen. Hammel? None of the above.

    billybucks 1 hour 4 min ago view
  • even if he's not starting, abandoning hammel would be a bit of a 'screw you.' i think it might be -monty +hammel, but it's speculation.

    either way, someone's gonna be disappointed.

    crunch 2 hours 5 min ago view
  • Joe said he is leaning towards 11 pitchers and 14 position players.

    - 4 starters, Chapman, Rondon, Strop, CJ, Wood, Grimm, Monty. No dice for Cahill or Smith.
    - 3 catchers, Rizz, Zo, Addy, KB, Javy, Heyward, Fowler, Soler, Coghlan, TLS and then Sczcur over Almora?

    billybucks 2 hours 16 min ago view
  • Cubs 3B Jason Vosler made two really bad throws on consecutive AB in the 8th. Fortunately the game was no longer in doubt at the time  

    The first one was a one-hop lob that allowed the batter to reach base on an infield single, and the second was air-mailed so far over the first-baseman's head that it went over the fence and landed in Field #4.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 51 min ago view
  • E-MAN: Despite the HR, Donnie Dewees is really more of a slash hitter (the HR was an opposite-field line-drive) who can accumulate lots of doubles & triples. He's also a good bunter and can get on base that way, too. Although he was thrown out trying to steal in the game, he's actually a good base-stealer and baserunner.

    Defensively he has plus-range and tracks fly balls OK, so he can play CF, but he has a rag arm that requires the middle infielders to go out further into CF to make relays.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 52 min ago view
  • I don't know how many of you remember Bobby Knoop, who played 2B for the Angels, White Sox, and Royals back in the day, but he is a coach-emeritus for the Angels, and works with the infielders at Minor League Camp, Extended Spring Training, and Instructs. He's pretty spry for a 77-year old, and he really knows his shit.

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 20 min ago view
  • With a big lead, Chapman was throwing sliders and changeups, something he's reluctant to do in a save situation. (Len and Jim covered this.)

    VirginiaPhil 3 hours 28 min ago view
  • Maybe they have a bad owner, I don't know, but they still have players and fans and a franchise, all devastated by this loss of life. Plus, everybody who follows baseball is a fan of a guy like this. It's why I used the word tragedy, which other people throw around but I try to be careful with.

    I'm at an age where I remember old incidents better than recent ones, but I have to go back to Herb Score for something as disturbing.

    VirginiaPhil 3 hours 44 min ago view
  • That was Dee Gordon's only HR this year. Wow.

    billybucks 3 hours 46 min ago view
  • Thank you PHIL.

    Glad you avoided temps in the 100s.

    I remember you mentioning Dewees needng plenty of work in th IF. How are his OF instincts?

    Also, did see much of Satchel McElroy? Only Satchel I have heard about other than the "orignal" and one of Woody Allen's kids.

    The E-Man 6 hours 32 min ago view
  • Hate to give the Mets credit, but they did everything right tonight in what had to be a very tough game for them to play. As Hollandsworth said on the Cubs post-game -- if you watched the game, you saw Mets players consoling Marlins players who were in tears during the game. Between that and the way Molina handled the Ross farewell -- maybe the Mets and Cardinal players aren't pure evil. Just the fans.

    billybucks 14 hours 3 min ago view
  • New York Mets @Mets
    Dee Gordon lead-off home run. #AintEvenMad #BiggerThanBaseball 1-0 Miami.
    7:25 PM - 26 Sep 2016

    crunch 14 hours 40 min ago view
  • Amazing effort by Gordon -- truly remarkable.

    billybucks 15 hours 1 min ago view
  • Cubs get 100, KB gets 100, Hendricks gets below 2.00, Cards get absolutely destroyed by the Reds -- all good, other than some Rondon concern. Hopefully, he can get a few outings in this week and find his groove. Also, I guess Soler is still struggling with his right side. Hmmmm. Too bad Joe didn't let Addy bat with the bases loaded in the 7th -- great RBI opportunity.

    I assume all the relievers are on a set schedule this week, but it seems strange Chapman pitched back-to-back.

    billybucks 15 hours 3 min ago view
  • Barry Rozner article interviewing Greg Maddux (with comments on Kyle Hendricks).

    "I like watching him pitch," Maddux said of Hendricks. "I like guys that rely on movement and location. I can relate to him. That's what I had to do. "I'd rather watch him pitch than some lefty throwing 95 mph."

    Cubster 15 hours 25 min ago view