Running a Yellow Light
Will Carroll, BP's staff writer focusing on team health had this very interesting recent quote, from his "Cubs Team Health Report":
Age is a poor predictor of injuries. Younger players get hurt more, but they heal more quickly. Older players get hurt less, a variant of the survivor effect, but heal more slowly.
The media that follows baseball does it's best to understand and decipher sports injuries. It's a tough job for them and much gets lost in translation of medical terminology. Injured athletes often don't understand what they are being told about an injury or they are just afraid to fess up that their ache might be a significant problem until it goes on for weeks or longer. Trainers and medical staff are often reluctant to discuss information on the grounds of patient-physician confidentiality and some teams are just less open to giving what information they have to the media. The information is important to us fans, since key players dealing with even minor injuries and not performing to their best ability can drastically affect how a team plays. In 2009, Alphonso Soriano apparently had a knee injury that he tried to work through until it was so obvious that he couldn't run, leading to his arthroscopic knee surgery in September. An injury that flies under the radar screen of the medical staff, as in Soriano's case was costly and not in a way you can put the usual "days lost" analysis to.
It's one thing for a player to communicate his symptoms and another for the teams medical staff to recommend diagnostic workup and treatment. No matter how you "slice" it (c'mon...it's an "Under the Knife" pun), it's still a stretch to predict the impact of injury, past and present, on the future performance of a team.
Baseball Prospectus' staff writer Will Carroll has taken on the mantle of analysis of baseball players health and attemps to put projections to the impact of a player's medical status. His regular "Under the Knife" column discusses weekly injury updates and for the last 8 years he has written spring training evaluations and projections for each club, "Team Health Reports".
The team health reports are broken down into three categories, Red (high injury risk), Yellow (moderate) and Green (low injury risk).
He also figures the injury days lost, which is a variant on what companies use to analyze their employees regarding sick days taken.
The Facts
Days Lost: 687
Dollars Lost: $19,627,956.52
Injury Cost: $15,614,027.78
Although Carroll's club by club team analysis will contnue through the spring, so far one other club that made the playoffs in 2009 had worse numbers. The Angels had 873 days lost and the injury cost reported was $21.9M. On the low end for NL competitors against the Cubs, the Phillies (who's medical staff was given Carroll's "Best Medical Staff Award" last November) had 546 days lost at $8.9M cost and the Cardinals also did well, having 530 days lost at $12.2M. The Mets were clearly 2009's most injured team with 1451 days lost at a cost of $51.8M.
Carroll also presents his annual "Dick Martin" Award, given to the Best Medical staff. 2009's season award went to the Phillies. This recognition was started by Carroll in 2003 and is named after the long time Twins trainer that "helped set the standards that today's athletic trainers and doctors aspire to."
Carroll has provided a spreadsheet (downloadable link at bottom of his article), that gives in full color his red, yellow and green analysis of each team. He's only looking at the starting 8 position players (9 in the AL), 5 starters, 1 closer and 1 "key reliever".
For the Cubs the red lights are ARam, Soriano, Lilly, Guzman and Marmol. The first four are obvious inclusions on this list. Aramis' shoulder dislocaton, Soriano's knee surgery, Lilly's shoulder surgery and Guzman's perennial shoulder problems plus his Jaunary knee scope clearly warrant Red Light status. Marmol's Red is most likely based on mechanics as he doesn't have an injury history and if he sticks as closer he will probably have fewer two inning outings.
The yellow lights seem to be given because of DL time last season with the expectations that their injury problems have resolved. This group includes: Soto, Zambrano, DLee and Dempster. He mumbles something about pitchers who were converted catchers breaking down regarding Randy Wells, so this might be a part of his giving Marmol a red light too. Marlon Byrd gets a yellow for being old and not handling a starters load well in the past.
...by the way, Kerry Wood is now a Yellow light! Woo. Carlos Silva (not rated), if he was rated would get a red light. I read a comment on TCR that said if Silva ever needed surgery, he would bleed gravy.
The green lights go to Fontenot, Theriot, Fukudome and Gorzellany. Heaven help them.
Carroll's summary on the Cubs future health and a comment on why the Cubs medical staff has been hard to analyze:
The Cubs took on players with known problems or extended players that were already risky. That makes it nearly impossible to tell how good the medical staff might be. If nothing else, they've stabilized things since the problems of the last decade and kept things nearer average than I'd have expected over the last three years. The next three years will be a bigger challenge.
Looking at the NL, the "healthiest" projected teams are the Brewers (1 red- Rickie Weeks) and the Phillies (1 red-Jamie Moyer). Carroll still tags the Mets health as the most in question with 7 Red Lights (Hank White, Luis Castillo, Reyes, Beltran, Maine, Niese and K-Rod). Next in line are the Dodgers and Reds with 6 Red Light players.
On the Green side, the Angels lead the majors with 11 and the Phillies and Brewers lead the NL with 8. The team with the fewest Greens, the Astros with 3.
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Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 12:22pm Permalink
C Muskat tweets:
Angel Guzman threw 25-30 pitches from 45 feet to test his right shoulder and said he felt good. He'll throw again Monday
http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/978519...
Blinking red light?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 1:17pm Permalink
Nice article, Doc. Thanks!
WSox and Peavy want A. Gonzalez
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 2:07pm Permalink
http://new.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12985283/w...
I'm sure Williams is thrilled that Peavy is throwing names out there.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 4:37pm Permalink
AGonz would probably hit 30 HRs in 81 games a year at the Cell, but how could they trade Beckham for a guy who's about to break the bank?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 8:35pm Permalink
Did Chad Fox have a red light?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 8:43pm Permalink
and why hasn't he been signed yet?
it's like the cubs aren't even trying anymore.
Heh
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 9:31pm Permalink
http://chicago-tough.com/2010/02/17/male-cubs...
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 10:40pm Permalink
You would come here in the late 80’s and people would be talking about Andy McGaffigan’s change-up and sh–. Some dude actually wondered aloud if ERA was a poor gauge of a pitcher’s value. Who gives a f*&@, dude. I’m trying to mack on some chick, and you’re talkin’ math? This isn’t school, bro. Shut up.
That one produced an honest-to-God chuckle.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 9:41pm Permalink
Vegas for work tomorrow, then to Az for spring training on Thursday.
I'll hopefully have something to report next Sunday.
See ya!
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 9:45am Permalink
It's March, bitches!
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:45pm Permalink
Speaking of spring in AZ, I've got a couple extra tickets to Sunday's home game (the 7th) that I'll sell at cost (face+handling) to a TCR reader if anyone needs some. Send a message to my TCR email.
Howard for Vitters
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 8:24am Permalink
If DLee walks, would you trade Vitters and others for one year of Ryan Howard after the 2010 season?
http://crashburnalley.com/2010/02/25/why-a-ry...
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 9:31am Permalink
No.
Just give Hoffpauir a chance, play Colvin or Soriano at 1B, or pick up someone lower profile.
Re:
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 9:47am Permalink
Right, because Hoffpauir and Colvin are almost as good as Howard. Let's just say I respectfully disagree.
Anyways, to answer JBeasley, if all it took was Vitters and some other minor league scrub to rake Howard, hell yea. He's not my first choice but I certainly wouldn't mind 35+ homers every year.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 9:55am Permalink
They could re-sign Ramirez and move him to first to keep him healthy and let Vitters get a shot at 3rd.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:30pm Permalink
Let me clarify then--I didn't mean to imply that any of them could approximate the on-field value of Howard:
IF the Cubs have a particularly competitive pitching rotation going into 2011.
IF the Cubs can still pass Soriano off as an outfielder.
IF Aramis is still with the team and is still playing 3B
IF Soto returns to form.
Then, yes, I trade Vitters and some other prospects for Howard. He might be a difference maker in that situation.
However, if those things are not true, I don't see him as a big enough positive impact to save a struggling club that already needs to jettison/suffer through some bad contracts (Soriano, Silva, Fukudome, Byrd). If the Cubs don't think that Howard would push them over the top for 2011, they should take on a bargain player and keep their prospects.
You all may still disagree with that, but it's not the same as saying any of those guys are just as good.
Playing Colvin at 1B would probably be a worst-case scenario if the Cubs look really awful in 2011. It would just be a way to save money and get a young guy playing time.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 9:58am Permalink
Colvin at 1B is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. There are legitimate questions as to whether he can hit enough to play CF.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 9:44am Permalink
Not for Ryan Howard, but I would make Vitters available for a potential trade. I disagree with Charlie that the Cubs should just give Hoffpauir a chance. High payroll, consistent playoff teams don't do that. They don't fill starting spots and give at-bats to mediocre players (my apologies if I missed the sarcasm).
With a $140 million payroll, the Cubs should have several perennial all-stars in their line-up. How many do they have now? The Cubs need to change the way they build their roster if they want to be a true year-in and year-out contender.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 9:57am Permalink
Well....that's a good point Lou. But...I've been a Cub fan for 30 years....and I've been saying that for the last 17...since I was old enough to know any better. Why start now?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 10:01am Permalink
It has become an established tradition with the Cubs, but I think it's time to break that tradition.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 10:16am Permalink
Agreed. At least it looks like they've stopped drafting by picking the guy who looks best in a uniform.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 10:21am Permalink
Luckily we should be able to be perennial contenders with better management. 140 million dollar payrolls should always keep us right in the thick of it.
More player development and less NY Mets Jr. going forward.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 10:52am Permalink
What makes you think the Rickett's are going to maintain those payroll levels??? They went on record in the last few days saying they're not going to spend money on free agents anymore.
Face it, the Ricketts= the Wrigleys
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 11:04am Permalink
Ricketts said he wanted to spend less on free agents. Since when is payroll solely about free agency?
Re:
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 11:51am Permalink
It could also be pointed out that we've signed free agents since they took over.
A productive farm system is the key to being competitivie without having a $250 million payroll, and they've said that they're going to invest into that.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:13pm Permalink
Explain to everyone how the Cubs payroll will maintain at $140 mil if they stop signing free agents and rely on the farm system instead.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 1:22pm Permalink
Ryan Theriot's $40MM extension, of course. : )
But seriously, let's not freak out until they actually, I don't know, lower payroll.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:24pm Permalink
Navigator, Jeter has never been a free agent and makes like $20 million per year.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 11:26am Permalink
Navigator, you are right about the Ricketts. It's a shame Cuban got sunk. I expect a whole lotta mediocrity from here on out. dang
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 11:31am Permalink
I'm not so sure, guys. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I still hold out hope that Ricketts can change the entire culture of the Cubs. So far, it doesn't look really good, but it's still very early. Once he replaces Hendry, then I think we can better judge what Ricketts has in mind.
Re: Ricketts=Wrigley
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:34pm Permalink
As tWittenmyer reported this weekend,
Spend more money on scouting and player development....what a joke. It's like he hasn't heard that Wilken and Fleita have been working together with a fat wallet (see Samardzija) for four years already.
Ricketts has only two years left of prime time from the core of this team as assembled. He should be spending the bank to fill in the remaining holes in an effort to win now.
But that's just one long-suffering, humble, and probably pathetic Cubs fan's opinion.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:43pm Permalink
thanks for the quote...
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 1:18pm Permalink
"Ricketts has only two years left of prime time from the core of this team as assembled."
What core?
Everybody in the starting lineup is easily replaceable except Lee and Ramirez. Lee can play first base, an easy position, four or five more years. Ramirez is thirty-one and a half. If his days at third are numbered, I'm sure he could play left as well as Carlos Lee, Ryan Braun and the current Cub LF.
Ryan Dempster is 32 (nearing 33). Lilly is getting up into his mid-thirties. Like Lee and Soriano, he will be league-age 35 in 2011.
Lee and Lilly--that's not much of a core. A bad contract is not the same problem as a core player getting old, so I assume you're not talking about Soriano and Fukudome.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 1:51pm Permalink
I think what was meant, is that if you look at the Cubs team at the end of this season:
1B- DLee 35 yrs old
2B- Fontenot 30 yrs old
SS- Theriot 31 yrs old(december, but still)
3B-ARam 32 yrs old
LF-Soriano 34 years old
CF-Byrd 33 yrs old
RF-Fukudome 33 years old
C- Soto 27 yrs old
This is not a team with a bunch of players entering thir prime. Replacing a player or 2 is one thing, but Lee, Soriano, Fukudome, Byrd, ARam, are all entering the late stages of their careers. Dempster will be 33, Lilly is 34..it's not like these are guys hitting their stride.
As for Lee playing 4 or 5 more years? Without HGH or steroids, really? How many 1B are playing well at age 36-39? Not too many..
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 1:19am Permalink
Not too many, Dusty, but here are a few that I came up with.
Lee is league-age 34 this year, so four years takes him through league-age 38.
Delgado had a big year at 37. Since then, two hip surgeries.
Chipper Jones still going strong at 37 last year. Mark Grace had his last solid year at 37.
McGriff had a big year for the Cubs at 38. Thome had decent numbers last year at 38.
Galarraga had 28 HR, 100 RBI for Atlanta at 39.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 8:30am Permalink
Thome is a DH.
Jones was hurt last season, hit 18 HR and 71 RBI.
It can happen, but it doesn't mean I'd bank on it.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 11:18am Permalink
Lee's Pecota forecast has him at:
2010 21 HR 80 RBI
'11 17 & 68
'12 19 & 65
'13 12 & 41
'14 6 & 24
Top comps are Jack Fournier, George Scott and Carlos Delgado.
Re: Payroll
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:18pm Permalink
what was the quote about not spending on free agents exactly?
they also said they wanted to model the Red Sox, so I'm sure they'll spend if necessary.
if they run the company as a family rather than a corporation, they should be able to take any savings from one year and pump it into another season, which is fine by me. It's not hard to tell when you a good FA class is coming up or when a hole in the team or system is going to be approaching. The Trib saves anything on payroll one season and it had to go to their stockholders.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 4:29pm Permalink
Nav,
I have serious doubts that the Ricketts would come in here and undermine their investment by going "Cheap".
The lack of movement this offseason were likely more of Sailor Hendry's past corner painting spending, and less an effort to pinch penny's.
Even if payroll drops to 120ish, as long as we spend an extra 10 on Minor league development/draft/latin signings. Then I will consider them an upgrade from Tribco.
Hell, Tribco was notoriously cheap until all the empty seats in August/September of 2006.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 4:30pm Permalink
Hell, Tribco was notoriously cheap until all the empty seats in August/September of 2006.
one of the beat writers recently claimed that Hendry was under a mandate to spend after 2006 fwiw. Can't remember the link or author though. I want to say Levine, but could be wrong.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 11:51am Permalink
if DLee walks, you can find a decent 1b on the FA market if needed or just move Ramirez or Soriano...
Re:
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:37pm Permalink
I could get behind this too.
I am perhaps being overly pessimistic about the hypothetical 2011 Cubs. A good season from Samardzija and more progress from Jay Jackson could easily have me being unreasonably optimistic again.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 4:42am Permalink
http://www.thefightins.com/meechone/beard/
This link is in the linked articled above. Pretty funny, even if you're not a Phillies fan. I'm a Werth fan, as he was on my fantasy team last year
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 12:33pm Permalink
that beard still don't hide the hardcore asshole. keep growing it, dude...
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 6:10pm Permalink
Why is he an asshole? I really don't know anything about him as a person, just a stat-producing monkey for my 3rd place team (or was it 2nd place?)
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 7:33pm Permalink
he's got a reputation as being a bit of a pompous dick...
http://jeffpearlman.com/?p=1817
the article is kind of dumb, but comments 33 and 38 are pretty dickish moves by Werth and I've seen other things on the web
maybe crunch has his own actual story or encounter to relate to us...
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 7:46pm Permalink
what rob said...and he's got one of those stereotypical 80s movie jerk-jock reputations that goes beyond sportswriters.
he's not hurting anyone unless words hurt you, though. no one's getting pushed into a mud puddle that i know of.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Wed, 03/03/2010 - 6:04pm Permalink
Take the five worst things you've ever done, and write them down. Don't dress it up or explain anything, just write them down.
Who's the asshole now?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Wed, 03/03/2010 - 6:17pm Permalink
jason werth.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 10:02am Permalink
So I guess Pinella is now calling Fukudome "The Fook"?
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/st...
As in, what The Fook is wrong with him?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 11:45am Permalink
nevermind
Soriano to bat 6th
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 11:55am Permalink
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball...
as expected, unless he does "exceedingly" well in camp
Wells, Marshall, Mathes, Parisi and Caridad to pitch Thursday
Marshall vs. Gorzelanny for one rotation spot
Samardzija, Silva and Parisi for the other rotation spot...
No 2b platoon
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 11:58am Permalink
http://foxsports.foxnews.com/mlb/story/106563...
at least for now, Lou says it's an open competition in spring with maybe a slight favor to Fontenot for being left-handed.
Re:
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:38pm Permalink
That's very, very dumb. But I don't think he'll stick to that for more than a week if either of them struggles against opposite-handed pitching.
Ellsbury and his defense
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:04pm Permalink
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/theo...
and
pretty good article w/ a lot more passages worth highlighting imo
Re:
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:29pm Permalink
I think the level variation is what is in dispute, not the chance that players have good or bad seasons.
If UZR is perfect, or as close to perfect as they like to imply, then why do teams hire people to make their own defensive stats?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 3:01pm Permalink
well I certainly don't think it's perfect or close to it, let's make that clear before we go any further.
Cardinals did hire Lichtman for awhile and I think they did well defensively during those times (probably a coincidence) and defensive stats are new enough that I'm sure teams think they can do better or improve upon it.
but put UZR, maybe +/-, and BP's stats together with a some scouting reports and I think you have a good idea of a player...and you should definitely look at least at 3 years worth though if trying to assess their talent.
if somebody tries to tell me Bobby Abreu or Dye can play right field passably, I'll laugh at them, but a guy with one bad year of UZR scores (or whatever your preferred defensive metric), I'll hold off final judgement.
No doubt that UZR has been accepted a little too freely for what it can actually do.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 4:11pm Permalink
I'm pretty much in agreement with you there. UZR definetly gets a pass because the math and logic are so convoluted you'd think it 'must be right'.
I like the +/- in that it can't really be "gamed" like UZR can, but as we've talked about before, it seems to have a lot of objectivity in it, for whatever reason.
I've been thinking about trying to quantify how Lee's throw catching ability improves his teams overall defense, but when I look at FRAA rates, I didn't really see much correlation between, say 2005 and 2007 versus 2006.
I think we can all see that Theriot makes a lot of throws that he shouldn't, because he knows Lee will catch them, but teasing that out of readily available fielding data is going to be a bit hard.
Fantasy angle on Soto
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 12:14pm Permalink
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/fl...
Theriot looks fat
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 1:52pm Permalink
http://www.boysofspring.com/journal/438852821...
allegedly he put on a bunch of muscle this offseason
Re:
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:33pm Permalink
The real story is that Theriot and Solo appeared on this TV show during the off-season.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/supersize-...
Re:
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:40pm Permalink
Hey Rob, now look. Lou did tell him to pull the ball once last year. And we all know that range doesn't matter at SS. And speed doesn't matter if you're hitting at the top of the order.
Plus, his lady likes biceps and Marlon Byrd is moving into the neighborhood.
Cactus league rotation
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 2:25pm Permalink
to add to comment #30
http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/983923...
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 3:11pm Permalink
Bruce Miles has a brief rundown of the last four #1 picks in camp.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=362735&s...
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 3:17pm Permalink
Colvin went on the Sammy Sosa offseason diet plan...
I'm all for keeping him now :)
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 4:32pm Permalink
You and Chad both.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 4:35pm Permalink
he's still pretty young, so I guess guys can fill out, but 25 lbs of muscle (if that's true) isn't an easy or particularly natural thing to do.
Anyone check his cap size?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 4:39pm Permalink
Colvin is trying his best to be Ryan Harvey. Cubs sure love shot-putters in baseball uniforms.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 9:28pm Permalink
I'd bet that 25 pounds is an exaggeration. But even 20 is a lot of weight to put on in a few months. 15 would be impressive. I'm not sure how much hitting power really comes from doing tons of weight training, though. Experts?
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 10:15pm Permalink
That's an awful lot of weight to put on. For years and years the conventional wisdom was that putting on weight like that would ruin your hitting stroke, first Lance Parrish and later guys like Canseco, Bonds and Sosa put that theory to rest, but still it's hard to think you won't sacrifice a little athletic ability by throwing that much weight on. Colvin's frame is one that always looked like it could easily support an extra 15 to 20 lbs, I thought.
BP Pecota Player Cards for Hitters
on Mon, 03/01/2010 - 10:55pm Permalink
They're out and it's great news for Starlin Castro fans. His #1 comparable player: Cesar Izturis.
There is some better news, though, with JJ. Hardy being his #2 comp (and trending upwards) along with Elvis Andrus checking in at #5.
The news is less cheerful for other tops cubs hitting prospects.
Brett Jackson: Tracey Ealy
Tyler Colvin: Adam Johnson
HJ Lee: Tito Navarro
Andre Blanco: Casey Candaele
and Sam Fuld: Raul Gonzalez
Just for kicks, Jake Fox: Jeff Liefer with other guys like Bob Hamelin, Brant Brown, J.T. Snow and Andy Tracy in there.
Re: Running a Yellow Light
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 12:12am Permalink
where are you finding them? I still get 2009 forecasts and no Castro when I do a search.
Re:
on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 11:19am Permalink
They're still in 'beta'
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota.beta/