2012 Trade Deadline Free-for-All

3:16 PM: Nevermind, looks like 3B Christian Villanueva and RHP Kyle Hendricks. Villanueva was #100 on BA's top 100 prospects in baseball list before the season. He was #7 on Goldstein's top 11 list:

Year in Review: After impressing last year in the complex leagues, Villanueva was a Sally League All-Star in his full-season debut.
The Good: Villanueva has outstanding bat speed and impressive power for his size, projecting to hit for average with 15-20home runs annually. He's an impressive athlete with average to slightly-above-average speed; he has improved his defense at third base, and has good hands with a strong arm.
The Bad: Other than the bat, Villanueva is not exceptionally toolsy. His approach could use improvement. He's filling out and getting stocky, and will likely lose some of his speed down the road.
Ephemera: Villanueva was used in six different spots of the Hickory batting order in 2011, but had the most success in the six-hole, hitting .357/.410/.629 in 20 games.
Perfect World Projection: Above-average third baseman.
Fantasy Impact: A good batting average with some power and more speed than your average third baseman.
Path to the Big Leagues: Villanueva is buried in Texas at the hot corner, and the Rangers have experimented with him at other positions. He'll begin the 2012 season at High-A Myrtle Beach.
ETA: 2015


Not finding much on Hendricks.

3:14 PM: Heh, on that note, one dude is hearing that it's Odor and Roman Mendez. Don't take that too seriously yet.

3:12 PM: Pure speculation on my part, but Rougned Odor (that's a terribly unfortunate name) is a Class A position player in that top 20 list.

3:06 PM: Rosenthal says a Class A pitcher and a Class A position player are headed to the Cubs.

3:03 PM: Here's a Rangers top 20 prospect list to start speculating upon. It won't be Profar or Olt.

3:00 PM: And fin. I'll try and get the prospects for Dempster up before I take off here.

2:58 PM: Scott Miller of CBS saying Rangers as well for Dempster...and so is Buster Olney.

2:57 PM: Whomever Ken Gurnick is, he's dropping the Rangers as the destination for Dempster. I believe he's the Dodgers beat writer for mlb.com

2:50 PM: Bowden saying Yanks "may have" acquired Dempster.

2:49 PM: Dodgers beat writer for the L.A. Times Dylan Hernandez says Dodgers are out on Dempster and they're done making deals today.

2:41 PM: The NL Central has been busy, Pirates get Gaby Sanchez and Travis Snider (that happened last night). Cardinals get reliever Ed Mujica and Reds get Jonathon Broxton.

2:15 PM: Nightengale saying that Soriano likely staying put, but of course he'll easily clear waivers, so an August deal is always possible.

2:06 PM: Kaplan says Tigers and Cubs are hard at work trying to complete a deal for Soriano.

2:03 PM: Dempster has allegedly said he'd waive his NTC for the Yankees, Rangers and Dodgers.

1:25 PM: Heyman tweet claim Dempster has already told Cubs he'd agree to a trade with Yankees...sure. Rothschild and Hendry are over there, so it does make some sense.

1:09 PM: Some Dempster to the Yankees or Diamondbacks rumors floating.

12:33 PM: Olney saying that Diamondbacks are working on something big and then teases a Justin Upton for Matt Garza deal as making sense. Of course the Cubs are on Justin Upton's no-trade list.

12:20 PM: The actual deal with the Texas Rangers for Geovany Soto is Soto and cash to the Rangers for Brigham and either a player to be named later or cash considerations heading to the Cubs.

12:18 PM: Another Goldstein tweet saying the Cubs really want to get Allan Webster out of the Dodgers and are trying to include parts to make that happen.

11:51 AM: By the way, Coleman, W. Castillo and Cardenas on their way up from Iowa for tonight's game.

George Ofman says multiple players involved in potential Dempster deal and Goldstein tweets that James Russell could be one of those players.

(You can usually find the tweets or links in the twitter box btw).

Jim Bowden claims they're just crossing the i's an t's on a deal to send Dempster to his beloved Dodgers.

Earlier the Dodgers gave up Lindblom and Ethan Martin for Shane Victorino.

The Giants are apparently getting Hunter Pence from the Phillies without including Gary Brown or Brandon Belt.

It seems Rangers, Reds and Blue Jays are the 3 teams still in on Garza.

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Comments

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:39am

Apparently Tommy Joseph Is the one going to Phil's for Pence, deal not quite finalized.

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:41am

Dempster/Dodgers: Hoping for Webster, expecting Garret Gould . . . :0

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:45am

hope he's not on twitter getting his news, he may get blindsided

A small part of me dies knowing Dempster's temper tantrum got him his way.

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:45am

agreed

Submitted by Rob Richardson
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:47am

His 10/5 rights got him his way.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:17pm

and the temper tantrum...

in the end, seems to have worked out for him...hopefully for the Cubs in some way as well.

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:21pm

You have kids, you know what a real tempter tantrum is.

:emoticon:

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:55am

Yeah, that unprofessionl jerk using his 10/5 rights to go where he wanted. The nerve.

I'm just glad Carlito got his way. (Get it?)

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:56am

yes the movie!!!! nice and appropriate. I'll get my way if we get webster or lee. otherwise, Carlito's Whine!

Submitted by WISCGRAD
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:04pm

Broken record.

So I'll repeat the flip side of the album: no one is upset with him exercising his 10/5 rights, they are upset with the unprofessional way in which he did so.

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:12pm

Yeah, broken record on the Dempster bashing, too.

Kaplan wrote today:

"Dempster has made it clear to Cubs management that he would like to play in Los Angeles but he also understands that Epstein and Hoyer have a job to do and he will not stand in their way if it means that the best deal is somewhere else," a source with knowledge of the discussions told me this morning. "He never told them he would only go to LA, he only said that he wanted time to make the best decision for him and his family and that is his right as a 10/5 [10 years in the majors, the last five with your current team] man. Ryan is serious about wanting to win a World Series and he will approve a deal if it gives him that chance. People who have been critical of him about the Atlanta deal don't have all of the facts."

That is not being unprofessional.

Signed,
Dempster's Apologist

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:16pm

Press Release:

People who are critical of Dempster don't have all the facts.

People who are supportive have all the facts.

That is all.

Submitted by johann
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:17pm

And then there are people like me who aren't critical or supportive because I don't have all the facts. Isn't forming opinions better when they're actually supported by something tangible? At the very least, don't let unsupported opinions get you all angry.

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:24pm

Johann, I really was offended by the actual behavior of his tweets, his angry demeanor since then in interviews, and almost all of his quotes and logic. I am not trying to be argumentative.

The only fact that would change my mind (given that I am basing my opinion on observed behavior and words that don't match my personal taste for mature bahavior) would be if there was, say, someone with a death laser pointed at his head while he tweeted, or if he had his feet in a unsecured rat trap while he conducted interviews etc. it was his observed combative unprofessional behavior, not his decision.

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:24pm

In no way was I attempting to say that I had facts that no one else has. If it came off that way, part of that is on the people thinking it.

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:31pm

Actually wasn't commenting on you at all. I just think its a funny thing to say in a press statement - if you really think about it. "People who disagree with me don't have all the facts". Cracks me up...

Submitted by The Joe
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:35pm

I don't know who you are or where you come from, but I like the cut of your triangular sails.

Submitted by WISCGRAD
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:17pm

"...no one knows exactly what happened except the parties involved"

Heed your own advice. You then don't know that he wasn't being unprofessional, yet you keep asserting it as a fact that he was being professional and just using his 10/5 rights.

So which is it? Do we not know all of the facts, in which case you are just as in the wrong as we are by talking about this like you know for sure what happened, or are you sure that he was being professional and simply using the "we don't know wall of the facts" as part of some sort of weak argument?

I don't get your unrelenting broken record defense of him that acts as if he has been 100% right and 0% wrong in everything that has happened over the past week no matter what new evidence comes to light your story has never changed. You've been pre-determined to support him since minute 1.

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:22pm

nobody knows nuthin'

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:37pm

Based on what I've read, I do not view him as unprofessional. I view him as someone who is taking his time to make a decision, which is his right. That's all I've been attempting to say "unrelentingly." You are correct, I don't have all the facts. Other people are acting like they do.

Feel free to skip my posts. It would be my pleasure to not read responses from you.

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:22pm

RHSP Ethan Martin and RHRP Josh Lindblom (traded to PHI for for Shane Victorino) sounds a lot like what the Dodgers were probably offering the Cubs for Ryan Dempster a week ago.

Likewise, RHSP Jacob Turner and two lesser prospects (traded to MIA for Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante a couple of weeks ago) could be what the Cubs were offered for Matt Garza and Darwin Barney.

And now OF Nate Schierholtz, RHRP Seth Rosin, and C Tommy Joseph to PHI for Hunter Pence could be what the Cubs would have gotten from SF yesterday if Soriano had waived his NTC (with the Cubs paying most of Soriano's remaining salary).

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:43am

Espn 1000 Dempster trade is awaiting "approval"

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:44am

oooooooooohhhhhhh! what will he do? what if the fucker stays. He's like the dinner guest / relative who won't go home . . .

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:08pm

haha! lol, Jeff. Lol. (from a Curb episode)

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:13pm

~Suzy leaves after reaming Larry and Jeff~

Larry- "You know what people say about you when you leave the room?"

Jeff-"No, what?"

Larry- "That poor bastard."

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:51am

lots of speculation of bigger deal, Webster to Cubs possible, JAMES RUSSELL mentioned going to LA too. Appears to be multi player deal.

Submitted by Jumbo
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:14pm

Where'd you hear this?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:21pm

mentioned in the post and check the twitter box.

Submitted by Jumbo
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:10pm

Rotoworld reporting that Soto trade is for Brigham and PTBNL/cash considerations. So maybe we get one more Ranger prospect.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/4288/geov...

Submitted by John Beasley
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:31pm

@BNightengale Alfonso Soriano has informed the #Cubs which teams he would be traded to but no offer yet

Giants not on list, doesn't say who is

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:33pm

Rob G: What is with this Dodgers spending spree?? Did the Magic Group come in with billions? They really aren't competing with the Halos are they?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:36pm

sure.

allegedly they told Ned to just make the team better regardless of the money.

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:40pm

Their TV contract is up after this year.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:25pm

Is there any way the Cubs can find a way to get in on the new Dodgers TV contract?

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:35pm

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
Diamondbacks working hard on something big, and a Garza/Upton framework makes sense for both Cubs and Diamondbacks.

Um, yes please.

Submitted by John Beasley
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:56pm

Hard to believe Upton is still 24 for a few more weeks. Last year's power might have been a fluke. But even if so, we're talking about a 20-HR and .350-.370 OBP skills, 20 SBs, and above-average, consistent UZRs in right field.

Salaries remaining on contract (Cots): 12:$6.75M, 13:$9.75M, 14:$14.25M, 15:$14.5M

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:03pm

Guess who has no Cubs on his trade list?

According to Onley.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:09pm

No surprise there.

Cubbery 3

Theo 1

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:28pm

As far as we knew, the Braves were okay for Dempster, and look what happened there, oh ye of little faith.

Submitted by Stevens
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:40pm

Saw somewhere it's Cubs, RSox, Yanks & Indians on his no-trade. Status quo for something I recently read where players block big-market teams for hopes of negotiating extensions if a trade happens. Doesn't apply to the Tribe of course.

Submitted by The Joe
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:13pm

That's the old "Big Market/Keep Me Outta Cleveland" contract clause.

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:59pm

it would be fun if the Cubs get Ted Lilly back from LA as a throw in as long as they send cash to cover his remaining contract.

(and the Ted Lilly Supercomputer has to be included in the package)

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:08pm

Have to get the fan club jackets back from the cleaners.

Submitted by The Joe
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:13pm

THAT would be awesome, considering word is that Dempster just wants to pitch with his buddy.

Submitted by Newport
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:42pm

I'm pretty sure Dempster is the catcher in that relationship.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:20pm

RE: Yankees in twit box: "Teams not talking seriously - yet."

Umm, they have how many hours to talk seriously?

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:24pm

All Theo keeps hearing about is Ken Phelps, Ken Phelps.

Submitted by tem99
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:37pm

Are you telling me there's not one condo available in all of Del Boca Vista?

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:39pm

I find tinsel distracting

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:35pm

One post and 6 updates later...

How's that vacation going, Rob?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:05pm

a bit of a window before I go see Dark Knight Rises presented itself.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:42pm

Some alert on my phone.

Damn you, Bryan LaHair!

Cubbery 4 TheoCorp 1

Submitted by springs
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:44pm

What did LaHair do?

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:49pm

His hitting line sank to the bottom of Lake Michigan.

Submitted by springs
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:08pm

LaHero to LaHitless

Submitted by Brick
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:12pm

"I'm goin' legit."

"Le-what?"

"Legit."

"Le-why?"

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:44pm

Dempster includes tx as ok to be traded to according to Levine

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:45pm

Sure was fucking nice of him to give us a little time. Thanks Demp! You da man . . .

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:57pm

According to WScr theo and cashman have been on the phone

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:18pm

That's a first!

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:05pm

Speaking of Kaplan, every tweet is he has heard from "solid/impeccable/great" source. Isn't that the assumption? Would anyone think he was speaking to shitty sources?

Then he pats himself on the back when he gets something right.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:14pm

it's his new thing

the dudes at Cubs Den have started doing the same thing, guaranteeing that I'll never link to them.

although, writing like you know something rather than just here's some information I came across and here's what I think of it makes you sound like more of an authority figure and the masses buy into it pretty easily. Probably good for traffic.

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:15pm

True. But I would think "Sources tells me" would be enough. Not for the Kapman.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:17pm

oh I agree, it annoys me quite a bit.

Submitted by The Joe
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:25pm

You're all right, and I dislike sportwriters quite a bit, but I imagine in the modern internet rumor world where "sources tell me" was used indiscriminately (I'm looking at you early MLBTradeRumors), people are finding the need for superlatives to distinguish 'real' rumors.

As I tell my daughter: "No, you're not starving, you're hungry"...but hungry no longer has meaning in our world.

Or as my Korean friend/student once told me: "It's cold as a buttfucker".

Submitted by Newport
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:45pm

Or as I tell my daughter. "DON'T PUT THAT FISH STICK IN YOUR EYE!"

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:14pm

I predict Dempster, sori& garza do not get traded today

Submitted by Ryno
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:20pm

Outside chance Dempster may still get dealt, but otherwise I agree.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:21pm

After all of this, you may be spot on, Jacos.

Submitted by The Joe
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:37pm

Question from me: If Soriano isn't traded now but has to go through the waiver thing, is he ineligible for the postseason? Would he still be interested in a trade, if not (directed at the mind-readers out there)?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:40pm

as long as he's traded before August 31st, he'd still be eligible for the postseason.

Submitted by The Joe
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:41pm

Gotcha, thanks.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:47pm

From the Kapman:

"David Kaplan @thekapman
Source tells me: "the final half hour or so will be very interesting for Theo/Jed. Dominoes have to fall right for major things to happen."
28 minutes ago."

Submitted by Rob Richardson
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:49pm

"Jim Bowden claims they're just crossing the i's an t's on a deal to send Dempster to his beloved Dodgers."

This must not mean what I thought it meant.

Submitted by Carlito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:51pm

Maybe he meant they are crossing out all the words on the offer sheet.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:52pm

That guy is such a tool.

Submitted by springs
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:52pm

Inconceivable!

Submitted by Rob G.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:52pm

heh.

latest is that Dodgers are out and Yanks "may have" acquired Dempster.

Submitted by Craig A.
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:00pm

It's like being preapproved for a loan or almost pregnant.

Submitted by The Joe
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:51pm

Sources asks me: "he needs a source to tell him that?"

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:53pm

These Tweets are all like Magic 8-Ball quotes.

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:59pm

Dempster to Texas

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:59pm

Olt?

Submitted by John Beasley
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:59pm

Scott Miller, Buster Olney, Carrie Muskat all get it at the same time.

Submitted by Ryno
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:00pm

Weird. Better wait for confirmation.

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:00pm

Former Cub Josh Hamilton????!?!?!?

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 2:59pm

The future is cloudy. Try again.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:01pm

Hahaha! That's what I'm talkin about!

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:00pm

Mult tweets say Dempster to Rangers

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:01pm

Magic 8 Ball, Is it a good Prospect?

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:03pm

Be interesting to see the names. I wonder if the Rangers popping up at the last minute means they overpaid at all.

And the haters can be happy that he's not going to L.A.!

:emoticon:

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:04pm

I more so hate Coletti. Good if true that Theo shoved it up his ass.

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:02pm

Dear Cub Fans,

Dempster has been traded.

Will let you know.

Signed,

Epstein's Mother.

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:04pm

Bowden might want to get out of the Twitter business.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:06pm

I think he probably meant Rangers. Its easy to confuse as last four letters of the name is the same.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:04pm

I'll only believe Dempster has gone to the Rangers if Kaplan's impeccable sources say he has.

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:04pm

@ESPNChiCubs: RT @BNightengale: The Cubs get two minor leaguers back in return

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:06pm

One pitcher, one position player

Both Class A

according to Rosenthal

Submitted by Tito
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:17pm

Rosenthal: One pitcher, one position player, both in A ball.

Trade deadline 3/44

Evan Grant ‏@Evan_P_Grant
Sources: Rangers send 3B Christian Villanueva and RHP Kyle Hendricks to Cubs for Dempster.

Retweeted by Ken Rosenthal

Submitted by Ryno
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:05pm

Why am I joyed at the news of Dempster being traded yet I have absolutely no idea what the Cubs receive in return? Dempster was a good pitcher.

Submitted by Rob Richardson
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:22pm

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8218905/sou...

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/daily...

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:25pm

i knew the rangers would eventually get dumpster ;p

seriously, though...surprised it's not the dodgers, but not surprised TEX stepped up.

Submitted by The Joe
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:31pm

Don't know these guys either, but it's over, so I'm happy.

[edit] By either, I mean I also didn't know the Atlanta guys...

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:33pm

out of the TEX kids i've only heard of villa, myself...and not much.

glad it's over, too.

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:31pm

Video of Christian Villanueva

I saw Villanueva play for the AZL Rangers a couple of years ago, and he is an outstanding defensive 3B with plus bat speed, and he runs OK, too.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:36pm

Thanks PHIL. As we all know, 3B is the Cubs Black Hole. And, we can ascertain that Vitters is not a Slam Dunk there.

Submitted by billybucks
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:32pm

Going to tonight's game -- looking foward to seeing the starting battery of Dempster and Soto.

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:39pm

k.hendricks innerweb stuffs...

September 26 2011 - Hearing good things about Rangers 8th rd pick Kyle Hendricks so far. Dartmouth product throws strikes w/ 90-94 mph fastball and plus change.

also...this dude really likes him...July 2012

http://joelmlblogs.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/k...

steve phillips on MLB Network just called hendricks a "solid #4 starter" type projection talent...

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:40pm

and phillips would know back of the rotation talent.

Am I right fellas??

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:48pm

I doubt Phillips has seen him pitch down there.

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:54pm

same...but he's got more instant connections for info than anyone on the MLB staff, except maybe p.gammons...maybe.

it could have just been an off the cuff prediction, though. he didn't detail anything except the info we already know about him.

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:23pm

joking about Phillips affair with less then attractive intern back at ESPN.

~have to explain....~

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 1:24am

I totally got it jacos.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:46pm

" Hendricks is only 3-7"

That's really f'in short.

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:46pm

Christian Villanueva signed with the Rangers in August 2008, so he is eligible for selection in the December 2012 Rule 5 Draft and the Cubs will need to add him to their 40-man roster by November 20th.

Kyle Hendricks won't be Rule 5 eligible until post-2014 (he was drafted last year).

Jess Chen interview with Kyle Hendricks

He played college ball at Dartmouth, just like ex-Cub Mike Remlinger.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:53pm

If his career is as successful as Yale's Ron Darling, I'll be really pleased.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:54pm

0.81 walks per nine innings this year according to the wordress guy's blog above. I like that much for sure.

Submitted by Jim Hickmans Bat
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:13pm

K/BB ratio over 7, that is something I definitely like. But to be honest, I'm happiest that (a) Dempster is gone, and (b) Theo successfully told the Dodgers in essence to go fuck themselves. Theo +1

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:21pm

Yes, I'll have to adjust the Cubbery vs. TheoCorp score soon. I'll wait to see if any other news goes down that hasn't leaked yet.

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:12pm

also...how the hell did s.victorino become so damn valuable?

i mean, if he had another year of club control or a cheap 2013 contract i could understand...but he's a FA...

dodgers gave up a hell of a package for a 2 month vic rental.

also, also...PHI fans are pissed about the house cleaning and what was gained in the pence trade.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:19pm

The best scenario is for the following:

1. The Giants win the Division
2. The Angels win theirs.
3. The Dodgers actually go into a tailspin and finish 3rd.
4. Dodgers fans roast Coletti, again, for his shitty signings.
5. Coletti gets fired. Goes to work as an Assistant Scout under Hendry.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:22pm

Wasn't Coletti in charge of, like concessions or something like that for the Cubs once?

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:27pm

Haha. Iirc, he was in Marketing.

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:33pm

Interesting BA blog post about & interview with Kyle Hendricks from a few days ago.

If nothing else, he seems like a very bright bulb.

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:34pm

dartmouth isn't exactly ASU.

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:38pm

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:34pm — crunch

dartmouth isn't exactly ASU.

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CRUNCH: Correct.

But ASU is the MIT of the West, the Princeton of the Desert, if you will, the Vanderbilt of the Valley of the Sun...

Conversely, U. of A is Nogales Community College.

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:43pm

i almost went to college there, myself (ASU)...too much $$ to do out-of-state, though.

they have an awesome urban horticulture program with great facilities.

UofA has an awesome program, too, but it's more geared toward "lab tech" horticulture.

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 4:45pm

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:42pm — crunch

i almost went to college there, myself (ASU)...too much $$ to do out-of-state, though.

they have an awesome horticulture program with great facilities.

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CRUNCH: Back when I was at ASU, out-of-state tuition at Arizona colleges was the second-lowest in the U. S. (Mississippi was the lowest), so everybody was from someplace else.

It was like going to Mars and meeting a bunch of the guys from the old neighorhood... Plus CUBS SPRING TRAINING!

I got out of there with my degree just in time before they jacked-up the rates.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 5:03pm

When I was in college I had a little fling with a rather flexible young swimmer from the ASU swim team. Or was it U of A? Or Nogales. Dammit, I can't remember now.

Submitted by Jumbo
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 4:12am

This has got to be the most interesting comment in days. Go on, O/B, go on...

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 6:12pm

Fork 'em, Devils.

Submitted by MikeC
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 6:47pm

For all the greatness you speak of ASU it's UofA who gets all the headlines with their talents in planetary sciences, engineering, anthropology etc. They pretty much destroy anything ASU does.

UofA is classified as a Carnegie Foundation (high level of research) and no University gets more Nasa grants than the UofA. A lot of the Mars projects are designed and run out of the UofA. The Phoenix landing was the 1st mission controlled entirely by a university.

ASU is more of a community college/party campus.

As you can tell anyone from the lower half of the state is UofA and anyone from the upper half is ASU.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:23pm

Oh, then she was probably from ASU.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 5:57pm

"bright bulb"

Yes, that's a very interesting interview. When he's a little older, maybe he'll take a cue from Greg Maddux and not give away his secrets, at least until he's getting paid to give advice.

Submitted by John Beasley
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 6:04pm

There was a market for Shawn Camp, but the Cubs insisted on including Dale Sveum in any deal.

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 6:44pm

Former Cub and Theo comp, Chris Carpenter comes off the 60 day DL and get sent to Pawtucket...Prior needed a roomie?

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:18pm

1st inning grand slam...neat.

4-0 pit/chc...top 1st, 1 out.

go coleman go...to AAA.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:21pm

The down side of a fire sale

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:21pm

and now the real suckage begins

Submitted by John Beasley
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:26pm

It was fun while it lasted.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:37pm

We will for sure sew-up #1 draft choice.

Submitted by Charlie
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:51pm

Sounds fine to me. Full commitment to a specific direction.

Submitted by SheffieldCornelia
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 8:11pm

There HAS to be someone at AAA who could do better than a 7+ ERA in the bigs. What about Jay Jackson? He'll give up a few runs, but he'll get some back with the bat too.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 8:18pm

Sheff, I think that we can be sure that management will not have reservations any more for the rest of the year. Sure...Jay Jackson? Why not? Volstad and his Act? Why not? Chris Rusin? OK!

Even Jeff Belliveau! Who has shown that he just can't seem to pitch when he gets called up to the Majors.

I have more faith in HoyStein with a #1 pick than I would be with Hendry at the helm, anyway.

Submitted by SheffieldCornelia
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 7:22am

Might as well throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.

Submitted by Dusty Baylor
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 8:33am

Wait..but do we want to start the clock on Jay Jackson???

Lol..

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 9:35am

"Beliveau . . . has shown that he just can't seem to pitch when he gets called up to the Majors."

This is his first callup. Are you thinking of Gaub?

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 9:58am

"There HAS to be someone at AAA who could do better . . . "

There is a reason why Iowa loses six games every week--starting pitching. Among Coleman, Rusin, Raley, Volstad, Jackson (who mostly relieves now), Lopez and De La Cruz, only Raley has decent numbers and gives the I-Cubs a chance to win. As a lefty, Raley might fill in nicely for Maholm. But Raley is in his first season at this level and they could be applying the "full season at Iowa" rule to him.

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:28pm

Coleman 36 pitch top of 1st

Trying to make Volstad look like an upgrade?

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:40pm

Hahaha. At least we will know who can have a shot, and who doesn't, next year.

Submitted by QuietMan
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:28pm

Tigers' GM says he never talked to the Cubs about Soriano.

Submitted by Old and Blue
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 7:47pm

But there was a tweet that said he did!

Submitted by The E-Man
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 8:19pm

I am sure it was Swami Bowden.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 1:22am

It was from Kaplan, wonder if that was an impeccable source or just an ordinary run of the mill shit source?

Submitted by QuietMan
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 9:14am

Crane Kenney is an impeccably shitty source.

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 8:05pm

Bizarre top of 3rd.
Single, single (first n third), fielder choice Rizzo to Clevinger, single by alvarez over DeJesus head but Jones holds 3rd and Walker goes to 3rd and is tagged for the 2nd out. Barajas walks to load the bases before Barmes out on a FC Valbuena unassisted.

3 hits, one BB, no runs

And Coleman 71 pitches thru 3

And Burnett perfect thru 3

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 8:38pm

Supposedly Soriano almost traded to Dodgers...

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?b...

Submitted by crunch
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:00pm

burn no-hitter on the cubs through 6ip (74 pitches)

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:00pm

burnett no hitter through 6

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:20pm

no hitter thru 7

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:26pm

Last no hitter at Wrigley was Milt Pappas' almost Perfect game ruined by umpire Bruce Froemming in 1972

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:31pm

Last time Cubs no hit was Koufax perfect game in 1965 in LA

5 outs to go

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:33pm

barney beaned, top of helmet, taken out precaution should be okay

Submitted by jacos
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:41pm

suck it burnett

cardenas singles

somewhere sandy koufax smiles

Submitted by Cubster
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:42pm

So much for cub and Wrigley no-no history stories

Submitted by QuietMan
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:02pm

Baseball America write ups on the Cubs trades.
Maholm & Johnson
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/t...
Dempster
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/t...
Soto
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/t...

Submitted by Blou
on Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:08pm

Theo and Jed did well with these deals. It is mind boggling the lack of pitching in this organization (thanks Diamond Jim Hendry!) but at least some intriguing arms have been obtained.

This team is going to be epically bad the rest of this season and probably next season too. But I am very confident that Theo, Jed, Jason and Dale can build this thing over time.

Submitted by Jumbo
on Wed, 08/01/2012 - 4:16am

Jim Hendry is no Diamond Joe Quimby.

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